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Old 06-13-2009, 10:54 AM   #31 (permalink)
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The hate for Brad is quite understandable. He promised people some sort of oldstyle EQ just with better graphics and he delivered a piece of crap with all the EQ2 vision crap included.

The best thing is that he "took a break to spend time with friends". If you position is high enough, you can be unsuccessful and still make a ton of money. Of course you deserve that money as compensation for all the pain you have to go through when you think about the future of your employees who got fired in the process.
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Old 06-13-2009, 12:31 PM   #32 (permalink)
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The worship of McQuaid here is sickening. He is not the prophet you are looking for.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:18 PM   #33 (permalink)
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I think one of the problems is that Sigil hired so many friends and family from what I've read, so the game was built by a lot of amateurs.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:24 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Somebody post his bullshit posts from before VG released so we can have some hilarity.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:37 PM   #35 (permalink)
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With Vanguard he was still trying to push his archaic ideas and it's just wasn't going to fly because they are either not fun to most people or just cannot be implemented in an entertaining way. Most people don't want that shit anymore... even if you put a Jolly Rancher in it.
The core gameplay in VG wasn't bad and there were some cool and fairly innovative classes. The level curve was certainly less than EQ, you could solo, and there were WoW-style quests for gear/money. I wouldn't say VG failed due to any EQ-style game mechanics, but rather due to (1) terrible engine (2) bland art and world design, and (3) bugs galore (which have all been rehashed here many times).

I bet there's plenty of market for a spiritual successor to EQ1, but it has to run on reasonable systems specs, have competent art/design, and there needs to be more than 1 QA guy.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:43 PM   #36 (permalink)
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With EQ we had really nice profit sharing set up and a lot of people made good money from EQ -- some lower level designers even tripled their salaries.

We're also comitted to a healthy profit sharing system at Sigil -- no, not just because we're nice guys, but also because it's a great retention mechanism.
Dang, tell that to the folks in the parking lot.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:44 PM   #37 (permalink)
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Brad working under Smedley might work, but as long as he continues to listen to dumbasses like Talisker as their Leads and doesn't go back and remember what made Muds & EQ what they were / are then fuck him.

The problem with Brad in Vanguard was simple - he didn't play his own fucking game, he listened to the wrong people and tried to make it like a WoW / EQ2 clone instead of relying on his so called "vision". The "vision" in Vanguard changed like the wind and this was a huge issue in alpha / beta and led to the failure that was / is / will be Vanguard. Don't get me wrong its better than it was, but its still so fucking far off from his initial "vision" it isn't even funny. In Vanguard the "vision" simply meant "empty promises".

I wish him the best but hes got to understand / remember his own Vision first before he jumps too quick and makes another history making MMO failure, then not allow ignorant and complete morons to alter it and fuck it up.
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Old 06-13-2009, 01:53 PM   #38 (permalink)
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sign koster up for that boat
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Old 06-13-2009, 02:02 PM   #39 (permalink)
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koster has never done anything good. he couldn't hold brad or garriots jock.
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Old 06-13-2009, 02:04 PM   #40 (permalink)
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Um, no. The hatred is because he fed this community fluff and lies for the better part of two years, took a 'holier than thou' attitude in the face of criticism, and essentially led a lot of people along even toward the end of the ride when he knew that the product that was going to be released was an abomination.

Edit: He's also a spineless coward who didn't have the balls to show up to work on the day many of his employees were called into the parking lot and told to pack their things up.
So he was suppsoed to come here and say "my new game sucks I wouldn't buy it if I were you"

It is a business man, not a college frat he is attending for shits and giggles.

And the second point, why do you care if he fired people or not, would that make his games better?
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Old 06-13-2009, 02:24 PM   #41 (permalink)
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So he was suppsoed to come here and say "my new game sucks I wouldn't buy it if I were you"
No, the posters here were supposed to see through his bullshit. Many of us did. However, many people are still saying "BRAD WAS A VISIONARY!" and already saying they'll buy any game he's a part of.

I've taken two hits to my precious, precious internets in the last few days contending with EQ retards that there has been forward progress in MMO's. There's still a lot of room to improve but stupid shit like 80+% of the content only being available to poopsockers (lol grizzle, srsly man?) and people whining about how they don't feel like they're accomplishing anything in video games because 10 million rather then 400,000 other people are doing it belittles their achievements.

All EQ did was take Meridian 59, iron out a few kinks and release at a much better time. Fuck, EQ was the Blizzard of 1999. If we should be sucking anyone's cock for transforming the gaming sphere it should be 3D0's. I mean shit, we owe more to NWNO for online MMO'ing then we do EverQuest.

Edit: Now I know some of you only started playing MMO's during EQ and you owe your addiction thanks to that game and him. That's fine. But stop drinking the goddamn kool-aid that Sony is pushing out. EQ was not revolutionary. If we owe anything to EverQuest it's that it was the first MMO that allowed you to jump. And god knows I loves me some jumping.

Edit2: I should amend that. EQ -was- influential and popular and proved that you could make money making an MMO and for that we owe it for existing. But you're praising the John Romero of MMO's here and we all know how -he- turned out.

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Old 06-13-2009, 02:33 PM   #42 (permalink)
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The worship of McQuaid here is sickening. He is not the prophet you are looking for.
No but he did have a hand in the game that made this forum, and had players captivated for years in what is widely considered the MMO that started it all (No offense UO Players). It's no surprise that a lot of people would love to see that magic happen again. Although I am not even sure that it can happen again.
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Old 06-13-2009, 03:34 PM   #43 (permalink)
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No but he did have a hand in the game that made this forum, and had players captivated for years in what is widely considered the MMO that started it all (No offense UO Players). It's no surprise that a lot of people would love to see that magic happen again. Although I am not even sure that it can happen again.
I know that, and I respect that. However people are giving him way to much credit for doing something other than creating the first 3D graphical MUD (which by all means was a fun game to many people).

My "magic" that I'd love to get back is from the game Brad got all his ideas from which was SojournMUD. Back in like... '94 or '95.
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:06 PM   #44 (permalink)
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No, the posters here were supposed to see through his bullshit. Many of us did.
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Old 06-13-2009, 04:27 PM   #45 (permalink)
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No, the posters here were supposed to see through his bullshit. Many of us did. However, many people are still saying "BRAD WAS A VISIONARY!" and already saying they'll buy any game he's a part of.

I've taken two hits to my precious, precious internets in the last few days contending with EQ retards that there has been forward progress in MMO's. There's still a lot of room to improve but stupid shit like 80+% of the content only being available to poopsockers (lol grizzle, srsly man?) and people whining about how they don't feel like they're accomplishing anything in video games because 10 million rather then 400,000 other people are doing it belittles their achievements.

All EQ did was take Meridian 59, iron out a few kinks and release at a much better time. Fuck, EQ was the Blizzard of 1999. If we should be sucking anyone's cock for transforming the gaming sphere it should be 3D0's. I mean shit, we owe more to NWNO for online MMO'ing then we do EverQuest.

Edit: Now I know some of you only started playing MMO's during EQ and you owe your addiction thanks to that game and him. That's fine. But stop drinking the goddamn kool-aid that Sony is pushing out. EQ was not revolutionary. If we owe anything to EverQuest it's that it was the first MMO that allowed you to jump. And god knows I loves me some jumping.

Edit2: I should amend that. EQ -was- influential and popular and proved that you could make money making an MMO and for that we owe it for existing. But you're praising the John Romero of MMO's here and we all know how -he- turned out.
You have no idea what you're talking about. I played the shit out of both Sojourn and Meridian 59, and wow. Just wow. Do you even know what Sojourn is or how it's related to EQ? Did you even play Meridian 59? It's more like Wolfenstein than it is like EQ.
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