The random WoW/other MMO shit thread

[Ukerric]

Originally Posted by Malakie Torsade

So, what benefit do you get from them drinking your beer? I'm assuming they pay you in some fashion? Or do you just do it for the hell of it?

Simply because I did it to boost my own perception scores, and each keg of beer is good for 21 persons, which allows me to open the bar for a large crowd.

That was a Bedouin guild event - even if the bar was open to anyone who managed to attend. I was member of the guild at the time.

Which reminds me of one special feature of ATitD which I haven't seen in any other game. Multi-guilds.

In that game, you could be a member of any number of guilds you wanted. A number of people were members of 3 or 4 different guilds, organised around different objectives. I was member of a local small guild, a french-speaking serverwide guild, the aforementioned Bedouin guild (a guild dedicated to gaming one of the seven tests), a regional trade guild, and a temporary member of the Cafe, a focused food tasting guild.

Drunken Mining?

Are they Egyptians or are they Dwarves?

The saying was that only fat alcoholics could mine. (you needed to taste at least 250 different foods, and drink wines and beers to max your perception for mineral veins)

[Zhaun's_Shade]

WoW Warlock Question:

Does my own Demonic Pact (deep Demo talent, +spell power on pet crit for raid) work for me, so as a soloer it is good to have as well?

I was debating to go into Affliction or continuing Demonology once I got the Felguard.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

WoW Warlock Question:

Does my own Demonic Pact (deep Demo talent, +spell power on pet crit for raid) work for me, so as a soloer it is good to have as well?

I was debating to go into Affliction or continuing Demonology once I got the Felguard.

It works for you, but for soloing it's not worth it. Go affliction, get Siphon it makes leveling stupidly easy, can't really die. You could keep going down demo if you want to be special though.

Also for raiding, it's not a good talent either until you have a pretty high spellpower so that it starts being better than Totem of Wrath. If you can't field a shaman and have a caster heavy raid though, guess it's worth it even with shit gear. You do lose quite a bit of DPS yourself from going deep demo.

[Zhaun's_Shade]

Originally Posted by Pyros

It works for you, but for soloing it's not worth it. Go affliction, get Siphon it makes leveling stupidly easy, can't really die. You could keep going down demo if you want to be special though.

Also for raiding, it's not a good talent either until you have a pretty high spellpower so that it starts being better than Totem of Wrath. If you can't field a shaman and have a caster heavy raid though, guess it's worth it even with shit gear. You do lose quite a bit of DPS yourself from going deep demo.

Demonic Pact doesn't stack with Totem of Wrath?

I definatley got the impression that by going Demonology I will be sacrificing some DPS, but I enjoy the survivability, soloing ability, able to solo instances to a degree and the pet management. Affliction is horribly tempting, especially since it seems 90% of my in-combat spells are Corruption, CoA, Life Tap and Drain Life.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

Demonic Pact doesn't stack with Totem of Wrath?

I definatley got the impression that by going Demonology I will be sacrificing some DPS, but I enjoy the survivability, soloing ability, able to solo instances to a degree and the pet management. Affliction is horribly tempting, especially since it seems 90% of my in-combat spells are Corruption, CoA, Life Tap and Drain Life.

They're the same spell so no they don't stack, with enough spell demonic pact becomes better than totem of wrath however(well as long as your pet is alive and hitting the boss).

Thing is, you get more survivability out of siphon life than anything in deep demo including metamorphosis. You also won't solo northrend instances anyway, unless you're really bored, and I'm pretty sure it'd still be easier with affliction healing than with deep demo damage increases. With Siphon, you basically heal for whatever damage you take on normal mobs with soul link, so you can pull as many mobs as you can reach and usually do just fine, you do end up losing mana that way, but you can howl of terror then bandage while mobs are dieing and have 0 downtime.

[chu]

At some point I should probably roll a DK to figure things out but for now I could use some advice.

I'm playing a shaman and I've noticed that the horn of winter doesn't stack with strength of earth totem. Is there any other stacking issues that are new to wotlk?

as far as raids go, what do shamans drop?

flametongue (the spell crit one if you're elemental?), stoneskin? (since there's no point in dropping strength totem), windfury, mana spring?

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by chu

At some point I should probably roll a DK to figure things out but for now I could use some advice.

I'm playing a shaman and I've noticed that the horn of winter doesn't stack with strength of earth totem. Is there any other stacking issues that are new to wotlk?

as far as raids go, what do shamans drop?

flametongue (the spell crit one if you're elemental?), stoneskin? (since there's no point in dropping strength totem), windfury, mana spring?

A lot of buffs and debuffs were made similar between classes, so you didn't need a specific class to bring that buff and keep raiding. For shamans, Stoneskin totem does the same thing as Devotion Aura(paladin baseline), Totem of Wrath the same as Demonic Pact(warlock deep demo), Windfury does the same as Improved Icy Talons(DK frost), Strength of Earth as Horn of Winter(DK baseline), Mana Spring as Blessing of Wisdom(paladin baseline) and I believe that's it but there might be some more.

As for raids, depends on how many shamans you have etc. Usually you'd get mana spring from a resto shaman since they're forced into taking the talent for mana tide so it overwrites blessing of wisdom, so all additional shamans would drop healing stream for free heals; for fire flametongue if you're resto, wrath if you're elem and magma if you're enhance; earth I guess stoneskin if you need it, or strength of earth if DKs are being lazy, else nothing; air I guess windfury or grace of air, if you have both probably nothing.

[chu]

Originally Posted by Pyros

A lot of buffs and debuffs were made similar between classes, so you didn't need a specific class to bring that buff and keep raiding. For shamans, Stoneskin totem does the same thing as Devotion Aura(paladin baseline), Totem of Wrath the same as Demonic Pact(warlock deep demo), Windfury does the same as Improved Icy Talons(DK frost), Strength of Earth as Horn of Winter(DK baseline), Mana Spring as Blessing of Wisdom(paladin baseline) and I believe that's it but there might be some more.

this part is ambigious; are you saying those don't stack anymore?

stoneskin + devotion
wrath + demonic pact
wf + icy talons
mana spring + BoW

it's confusing because you group it with strength of earth and horn of winter that obviously do not stack.

[Pyros]

If they do the same thing, they don't stack anymore no, I was just making a list of shaman abilities that don't stack anymore. There's a lot more of these, they made a good job consolidating most abilities so multiple classes could bring them in various forms. Usually there's one superior form however, for example blessing of might and battleshout(+AP buff) do the same, but BoM is a 30mins buff while battle shout is a 3-5mins buff that requires a GCD/rage in combat to recast.

Also forgot, enhance shamans +10% AP buff(shamanistic rage or something) doesn't stack with trueshot aura(marks hunter) and abomination's strength(blood DK). Think elem shamans also get a buff that doesn't stack with moonkin aura, or something like that.

[Big W Powah!]

The warlock demo talent is better in early ulduar up. Like, the begining of ulduar; if you are naxx with any ulduar, then you out +sp a shaman. Its not too uncommon to bring along a meta/ruin lock for fun. through, SL/FG spec is the bees knees for getting 71-80. NEVER stop casting, just run around and throw corruption on everything. thats all you fucking need, corruption. and make sure it stays up, your felguard does the rest of the work. At 75 you get a cone AE instacast dot that is great; corruption like 14 mobs, use that, AE fear, move to the next bunch, rinse repeate. shit dies before your eyes while you gain just enough hp from fel armor to get a few lifetaps in.

Edit: Does anybody have an account with a 70-80 on it of any class really that they don't play anymore? wotlk preferred, not required. I've got a multitude of unimpressive accounts for various games that I could trade for an unimpressive wow account. If the character is on Hellscream or Destromath that is a bonus.

[Troll]

It's old news but yeah, just did my first 10 man Maly (had done 25 several times before).

10 man is just so much more fun and fulfilling.

[Big W Powah!]

Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

Any EQ1 people here? What is the current role Druids play currently? I'm getting the itch and Druid is always something I wanted to try. to be able to heal Ok and nuke Ok.

Bit late. Druids are definitely healers. They can lay down some serious fucking damage. Their attack debuffs are crazy, more powerful than slow, and don't mitigate the dps from damage shields much (makes mobs hit for minimum MUCH more often without affecting swing rate, or messing with hit/miss ratio much).

This being said; they have bad mana issues and little they can do to replenish it in combat. With OOC regen, or on raids; the multitude of regen spells, this is easy; simply med and never have to be FM. You can function just fine between 50-80m, thats all you need. They do have a bit of self only regen, and its worth looking into their AAs to make sure its the class for you.

If you want ok dps and ok nukes, they're the class though. second best healer, and their new nuke-weaving mechanic is fun (instead of 6-7 second cast times, nukes are shorter cast time long recast, so you weave in 2-3 nukes in the time it used to take you to cast one, but can't just chain cast nukes)...They AA real fast too, since they can charm animals for AA/XP and play ghetto-enchanter. they even have an animal only tash.

[James]

Originally Posted by Pyros

For shamans, Stoneskin totem does the same thing as Devotion Aura(paladin baseline),

These two, in fact, do stack.

[Crone]

I'm currently playing a Druid. At level 81 or 82, I got my PR type spell.

At that point, I definitely felt like I could keep a tank alive in simple group content. I do have a shaman slowing in the group as well though.

I haven't fleshed out my Druid much with AAs. To be truely effective they really do require a lot of AA. In terms of DPS at least.

[Frantic]

For wow pvp which healer is the boss these days? Are druids still king for arenas / Bgs? Trying to decide between priest and druid. I want to do 3s and 2s.