[WoW] 3.1 - Ulduar

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Sharmai

When is the last time blizzard showed any insight. creativity, and suprise at this level? Ever?


Drizzit lore is fucking better then this.

It's



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[equobix]

Originally Posted by Vardisk

People need to stop calling Algalon a "cockblock." What exactly is he blocking access to? Nothing.

Originally Posted by equobix

I think defeating algalon does something to change your server that way every guild has to work together and use their 1 hours together and communicate. IMO its too ridiculous that they'd just limit it one hour to just be "harder",
Nobody wants to be limited on the time you can do something in a game that you pay monthly for.

I think it will open one of the already created zones in the mpq file like emerald dream.

If im right everyone in this thread has to give me +internets.

the cockblock is for emerald dream

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Dumar

no, it's dumb and their writers are pretty awful at even doing what they're trying. they always try to 1up the previous lore with the next content release. there's a more super evil baddy that's even more evil and powerful than the last super evil baddy. they need to create drama and plotlines within the lore they created already, not make up stuff about aliens in spaceships creating planets. because eventually there's nowhere else to go if you take this route. how is arthas more powerful than a intergalactic herald? what's the next xpac? the titans themselves? and the next? intergalactic super titans that are even more super evil that created the titans? they've completely ruined the warcraft IP lorewise.

they need to stick within their confines and within themselves.

Now hold the fuck up, Dumar, AKA most retarded poster on this forum. Blizzard has done an amazing job leading up to Ulduar for the passed four years at least, and if you weren't so busy making an ass of yourself with every slobbering post you've made in this period, you'd know.

This is not some random leap into one-upping Arthas or anyone else, this is a foundation of the Warcraft lore, brought in by many quests, areas, mobs and storylines.

Brann Bronzebeard spent the entire expansion working his ass off to show you why it's there, why it's relevant and why you should care, but your pea-brain couldn't even find enough nerve endings to rub together to comprehend it.

[darksensei]

Originally Posted by Tuco

Now hold the fuck up, Dumar, AKA most retarded poster on this forum. Blizzard has done an amazing job leading up to Ulduar for the passed four years at least, and if you weren't so busy making an ass of yourself with every slobbering post you've made in this period, you'd know.

This is not some random leap into one-upping Arthas or anyone else, this is a foundation of the Warcraft lore, brought in by many quests, areas, mobs and storylines.

Brann Bronzebeard spent the entire expansion working his ass off to show you why it's there, why it's relevant and why you should care, but your pea-brain couldn't even find enough nerve endings to rub together to comprehend it.

And in all the good work the quest designers did (honestly, the zone quests are the strongest point of this expansion and I hated questing in classic or TBC), there was not a single mention of Yogg-Saron being in Ulduar. And they've done a bad job making any connection whatsoever to the Grizzly Hills story. I don't have a huge problem with Warcraft lore. But they did seem to rush the lol Ulduar is a prison aspect.

I have a minor suspicion as to why. I'm guessing the 3.2 raid was changed from the Nerubian setting to the PvE raid Arena idea that Tigole seemed to like during Beta, but that is 100% pure speculation.

[Hatorade]

I don't know Tuco, granted I know nothing of WoW lore other then how Eastern PL was made but when I think of warcraft I sure as hell don't picture Titans from space and spaceships etc. They may have done a good job molding the world toward that end but in retrospec I never imagined that would go that route.

[MrGraham]

Remove the 1 hour cockblock.

Make every char on the server be reduced to level 1 if anyone fails Algalon thanks to the Omega reply.

Done!

[The Ancient]

Originally Posted by darksensei

And in all the good work the quest designers did (honestly, the zone quests are the strongest point of this expansion and I hated questing in classic or TBC), there was not a single mention of Yogg-Saron being in Ulduar. And they've done a bad job making any connection whatsoever to the Grizzly Hills story. I don't have a huge problem with Warcraft lore. But they did seem to rush the lol Ulduar is a prison aspect.

I have a minor suspicion as to why. I'm guessing the 3.2 raid was changed from the Nerubian setting to the PvE raid Arena idea that Tigole seemed to like during Beta, but that is 100% pure speculation.

Hate to invoke him but you are absolutely wrong here.

Loken

This is just one example from the top of my head that I remember with absolute clarity indicated the existence of an old god in Ulduar. What they did was good story telling. In Howling Fjord you are introduced to the Iron Dwarves through the investigations of a council of druids. In Grizzly Hills you find out more about what they are doing and who their leader is. In Storm Peaks you find out more about them and find out their leader is a corrupted servant of the Titans and fairly strong hints of where his corruption came from. In Halls of Lightning he gives his master a name. What connection did you miss?

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

I don't know Tuco, granted I know nothing of WoW lore other then how Eastern PL was made but when I think of warcraft I sure as hell don't picture Titans from space and spaceships etc. They may have done a good job molding the world toward that end but in retrospec I never imagined that would go that route.

If you don't know anything of WoW lore, then of course you'd have that opinion.

Before any of you people try to trample WoW's lore, at least bother reading it.

Titan - WoWWiki - Your guide to the World of Warcraft

You don't need to understand the lore to enjoy the game, but playing the game doesn't give you grounds to trash the lore you don't understand.

[Twobit Whore]

There is a ton of references to old gods in WotLK.. it was quite obvious one would emerge sooner rather than later.

[Dumar]

oh fucking please. call me whatever you want, but tell the truth when you speak. "a foundation of warcraft lore" that was already retconned and wasn't really in the vernacular until recently. no, uldaman doesn't count because you don't go from stoneform dwarves to intergalactic spaceships and silver surfer-esque heralds that was probably gonna deus ex machina in the first place. fucking potime was better than this.

yogg who? yeah.

[Murr]

Originally Posted by darksensei

And in all the good work the quest designers did (honestly, the zone quests are the strongest point of this expansion and I hated questing in classic or TBC), there was not a single mention of Yogg-Saron being in Ulduar. And they've done a bad job making any connection whatsoever to the Grizzly Hills story. I don't have a huge problem with Warcraft lore. But they did seem to rush the lol Ulduar is a prison aspect.

I have a minor suspicion as to why. I'm guessing the 3.2 raid was changed from the Nerubian setting to the PvE raid Arena idea that Tigole seemed to like during Beta, but that is 100% pure speculation.

Haha as if the 3.2 raid will be anything besides Zul'Drak. WE'RE DUE.

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Dumar

oh fucking please. call me whatever you want, but tell the truth when you speak. "a foundation of warcraft lore" that was already retconned and wasn't really in the vernacular until recently. no, uldaman doesn't count because you don't go from stoneform dwarves to intergalactic spaceships and silver surfer-esque heralds that was probably gonna deus ex machina in the first place. fucking potime was better than this.

yogg who? yeah.

If you want to bitch about Warcraft lore, there's a lot of avenues for your mind to stumble down. But stay the fuck away from dwarves and titans.

[Dumar]

Originally Posted by Tuco

If you want to bitch about Warcraft lore, there's a lot of avenues for your mind to stumble down. But stay the fuck away from dwarves and titans.

well you're free to think whatever you want. doesn't mean it's not crap. have fun at least.

[Dyscord]

When you don't like anything, the chances of liking warcraft lore, the fantasy equivalent of a spaggetti western, are almost nil.

[Zehn - Vhex]

Fuck, someone call the press. A fantasy author may have expanded their worlds universe and in the process retconned some things to make them fit better with the new story. We have to -stop- this shit now before it spreads and suddenly Tolkien changes his mind that a simple magic ring is now the centerfold of a war lasting thousands of years.

Oh wait. FUCK.