[WoW] 3.1 - Ulduar

[Ukerric]

Originally Posted by FoghornDeadhorn

Unless they start working on the ZD raid right this instant I can't imagine we'll see Icecrown Citadel within a year's time.

It's probably been planned for a long time. Why else would one of the epic gem cuts be called "xxxxx eye of Zul" since beta?

[Adamar Hammerfell]

Here's are the details on us (Curse.com) disabling the bandwidth leaching from WowMatrix last night. This is a mix of various posts I've made on Curse.com (I am Curse's CTO).

The moment we disabled the ability for WowMatrix to download directly from our file servers, we experienced a 30% drop in our outgoing bandwidth. We pays tens of thousands of dollars each month in bandwidth bills. I know, because I have to approve them each month... A 30% drop is significant.

Our only means of paying for these bills is via advertising. This is a simple matter of economics. We can no longer afford to foot the bill for the bandwidth WowMatrix consumes from us. Think about it this way: We have been paying for WowMatrix's bandwidth consumption for years, while they have been earning money from their in-client advertising. We're not going to pay for their service anymore.

More than 6 months ago, our CEO contacted WowMatrix in an attempt to work with them in some fashion. They were completely unwilling to work with us.

They blatantly ignore copyright law, steal bandwidth, modify addon files without permission - and make money from doing so. This is simply "not cool", and we'll take every measure we can to block them from our addon database.

Details on version 3.0 of the Curse Client

The latest version of the Curse Client (3.0) has been in development for roughly two months, by three people. I developed the backend web service (which provides the Curse Client all the data it needs to identify and download addons updates) and led work on the PC-version re-write. We've reengineered nearly every single code module and redesigned every single user interface. It is our hope that users switching from WowMatrix to the Curse Client will discover an addon manager with an improved user experience, and a more robust feature set.

Here's a short list of features that only the Curse Client can offer:

1. A flexible multi-game (and multi-game-instance) management system. Need to manage addons for your WoW PTR install? No problem. Also play WAR or Runes of Magic? We've got you covered.

2. Release preference support. With the Curse Client, you can choose whether to be notified only when a new "Release" is available, or install the latest "Beta" or "Alpha". Unlike WowMatrix, we never assume anything with the Curse Client - we let you decide.

3. Change Logs. Ever wondered what the author changed or fixed in the latest release? No problem. Just click the "Open Change Log" link in the addon info panel, or right click on the addon and select "View Change Log".

4. Modern User Interface. The Curse Client has been built to support modern UI standards, offering list sorting, column resizing and descriptive icons.

These are just some of the features we've worked very hard to bring to the new Curse Client.

You can check out the Curse Client at Curse Client Download

[Heylel Teomim]

God no more trolls. I'm so sick of fucking trolls.

Personally I'm hoping for an argent coliseum raid where we fight the opposing faction's PVE leaders.

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Troll

FUCK YEAH

You missed the other one:

Sprite Darter Eggs: May now (very rarely) drop from Sprite Darters in Feralas. Note that only Horde characters can attack and kill Sprite Darters.

[Twobit Whore]

Yay, another 1/1000 drop rate pet...

[Plorkyeran]

Originally Posted by Adamar Hammerfell

Think about it this way: We have been paying for WowMatrix's bandwidth consumption for years

WoWMatrix launched a year ago.

[Vorph]

I've been using the Curse Client 3 beta for about three months now, and it's a big improvement over the previous versions. About the only thing that still annoys me is something Curse can't really do anything about--authors who, for whatever reason, refuse to put their addons on Curse.


And back on the 3.1 topic, I cannot fucking believe they pushed ret live in its current state.

[Gecko]

Originally Posted by Adamar Hammerfell

Our only means of paying for these bills is via advertising. This is a simple matter of economics. We can no longer afford to foot the bill for the bandwidth WowMatrix consumes from us. Think about it this way: We have been paying for WowMatrix's bandwidth consumption for years, while they have been earning money from their in-client advertising. We're not going to pay for their service anymore.

More than 6 months ago, our CEO contacted WowMatrix in an attempt to work with them in some fashion. They were completely unwilling to work with us.

While I used to use WOW Matrix, this post makes a lot of sense. It's still a shame nothing could be worked out.

I hope your rewrite has made your curse client small, portable and on demand a la WOW Matrix. You don't need much for a front end, just something simple and efficient. The old curse client was a beast. It also was akin to an old TSR program that just sat there eating cycles. I hope it still doesn't behave in that manner.

[Heylel Teomim]

I'm sure we'll get at least 3 revision patches before 3.2.

[Adamar Hammerfell]

Originally Posted by Gecko

While I used to use WOW Matrix, this post makes a lot of sense. It's still a shame nothing could be worked out.

I hope your rewrite has made your curse client small, portable and on demand a la WOW Matrix. You don't need much for a front end, just something simple and efficient. The old curse client was a beast. It also was akin to an old TSR program that just sat there eating cycles. I hope it still doesn't behave in that manner.

Version 3.0 rocks

• WowMatrix uses nearly 18 MB of system RAM. The Curse Client uses under 12 MB of system RAM.
  
• Installing Cartographer with WowMatrix took over 60 seconds. Installing Cartographer with the Curse Client takes under 5 seconds.

[Ao-]

Originally Posted by Troll

FUCK YEAH

Fuck Yeah to the chicken change, but not even a whisper for the sprite darter change?

* Sprite Darter Eggs: May now (very rarely) drop from Sprite Darters in Feralas. Note that only Horde characters can attack and kill Sprite Darters.

[Ameraves Loyalheart]

I tried using the Curse client when WoWace went away. However I got a virus pop up warning from Avast 3 separate times while using it. I gave up and uninstalled it and haven't had a problem since. I know people said there is no way that can happen, and it was just rumor. I would find it to be quite a coincidence that I would get virus warnings each time I used it then.

I would really like to be able to use it since updating all the mods manually is a bit tedious.

[Vorph]

Originally Posted by Gecko

While I used to use WOW Matrix, this post makes a lot of sense. It's still a shame nothing could be worked out.

I hope your rewrite has made your curse client small, portable and on demand a la WOW Matrix. You don't need much for a front end, just something simple and efficient. The old curse client was a beast. It also was akin to an old TSR program that just sat there eating cycles. I hope it still doesn't behave in that manner.

For me, the current client uses 1-2% cpu and less than 20MB of RAM while doing a update scan, and 0% cpu while idle. The only time it uses a significant amount of resources is while actually updating addons, but that's pointless to do while the game is running anyway since you still have to restart WoW to load them.

[Adamar Hammerfell]

Originally Posted by Ameraves Loyalheart

I tried using the Curse client when WoWace went away. However I got a virus pop up warning from Avast 3 separate times while using it. I gave up and uninstalled it and haven't had a problem since. I know people said there is no way that can happen, and it was just rumor. I would find it to be quite a coincidence that I would get virus warnings each time I used it then.

I would really like to be able to use it since updating all the mods manually is a bit tedious.

I also use Avast, and experienced the same issue with version 2.0. It wasn't a virus though. The Curse Client Updater (formerly named Updater.exe), was generating a false positive for a virus, due to the compression we use (LZMA). Version 3.0 does not emit this behavior.

I would also like to add that at no point has the Curse Client distributed a virus. Nearly 1.2 million people have installed the Curse Client. If it was distributing a virus, the outcry would be insane.

[Man0warr]

Didn't know Adamar was the CTO of Curse O.o