[WoW] 3.1 - Ulduar - Page 212

Aria · 07-01-2009, 09:52 AM

So yeah, might be time for a new guild like everyone mentioned. I like my 10man ulduar team (9/14, shitty I know but I like the people), but I think the rest of the guild is full of retards.

Today was scheduled as our first 25 man ulduar attempt. Raid time comes up, 13 people online. I half-expected this, I come from the oldschool days where you had a surplus for MC but when BWL came you had 34 members online. We decide to do Naxx25 a half hour later and surprise, everyone logs in. We did Anub and I died while MTing, just slowly watching my health repeatedly drop to the teens. I was getting peeved here.

We went to Faerlina and we wiped again. I lost it and told them I was done for the night, threw a little temper tantrum, took my ball and went home. I just can't stand being in a guild like this. I mean, I do a wow-heroes score on some of the guys and half of them are still at 1300-1800 points. Sorry, had to do another mini-rant.

James · 07-01-2009, 10:39 AM

Wow, this WoW Heroes place is pretty neat. I just checked my score, and I weighed in at eleventy billion. 1800 is obviously unacceptable.

Aria · 07-01-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by James

Wow, this WoW Heroes place is pretty neat. I just checked my score, and I weighed in at eleventy billion. 1800 is obviously unacceptable.

Not sure if you're joking or what. I obviously base more on performance, but I do use it as a substitute for just armory'ing people as it gives you a better idea.

James · 07-01-2009, 10:49 AM

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Watching Xxretrulzxx with his agility gems stand in a void zone and leg hump the healers during an encounter is a much better indicator of being a window licker.

Vinen · 07-01-2009, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by James

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Watching Xxretrulzxx with his agility gems stand in a void zone and leg hump the healers during an encounter is a much better indicator of being a window licker.

We had a Feral App claim he was the #2 Geared Feral based on the server based off this site. Guild Leader wanted to put him through the Guild App Interview Process so I could tear his soul apart.

Aria · 07-01-2009, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Vinen

We had a Feral App claim he was the #2 Geared Feral based on the server based off this site. Guild Leader wanted to put him through the Guild App Interview Process so I could tear his soul apart.

Haha yeah, I mean the site doesn't take into account retard gem/chants or playing ability but it's a pretty good indicator of how someone is geared and is a little more in-depth than just the armory alone. Hell, some of the biggest retards in my guild have a higher score than me. Oh well.

BurnemWizfyre · 07-01-2009, 01:25 PM

That site takes ilvl way to seriously, just because its a higher ilvl does not make it a better item for your class/spec.

Twobit Whore · 07-01-2009, 03:46 PM

It only works on the assumption that if you are getting the highest ilvl items then you sort of know what you are getting and why.

Needless · 07-02-2009, 07:50 AM

Wowheroes says i should focus on 25 man Ulduar, Thanks WoW Heroes!
Icecrown is too hard still

Darn you ~2500 rating! Clearly i need over 9000

I still prefer be.imba.hu over that site even though its prettier

Vinen · 07-02-2009, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Needless

Wowheroes says i should focus on 25 man Ulduar, Thanks WoW Heroes!
Icecrown is too hard still

Darn you ~2500 rating! Clearly i need over 9000

I still prefer be.imba.hu over that site even though its prettier

I dunno, they are both pretty terrible.

I like it when they suggest completely retarded changes to specs.

Vardisk · 07-02-2009, 09:10 PM

Rating sites have always seemed kind of pointless to me. Takes like 15 seconds to load up someone's armory, quickly mouse over their gear, and check their raid meta achievements/dates.

Can get a much better idea just doing that than arbitrarily assigning numbers to gear.

Either way, will take a good WWS log any day, especially with some of the WWS masters in my guild that open up the raw combat log and filter pure win out of it.

Jabberwhacky · 07-02-2009, 11:23 PM

What's the relative order of 25-man hard modes? My guild just downed Mimi and I'm curious where we can get our feet wet with the bonus shit. FL seems pretty obvious as a first choice, but what comes next?

mek · 07-02-2009, 11:28 PM

XL is easiest, FL is second easiest. Then: IC > Thorim > Hodir > Freya > Yogg+1 > Mimiron. Vezax in there somewhere?

Fadaar · 07-02-2009, 11:44 PM

There's no way you can put Iron Council ahead of Thorim and Hodir. Hodir/Thorim I'd say are interchangeable in the 3/4 position but IC is definitely harder than those 2.

spronk · 07-03-2009, 12:23 AM

in 10 man, all hard modes except mimiron are fairly easy and killable within 5 attempts. mimiron will take most groups 3-5 hours first try, post nerf.

in 25 man, the order is (imo) XT, FL4 (pyrite is key, put 3 ppl on 2 demolishers), hodir (storm your casters), thorim, freya+3, vezaz/yogg+1/council, mimiron.

25 man hard modes are a lot more difficult than 10 man hards, the raid damage is much more intense and the DPS requirements much tighter.

07-01-2009, 10:39 AM	#3167 (permalink)
James You are just another normal! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,399	Wow, this WoW Heroes place is pretty neat. I just checked my score, and I weighed in at eleventy billion. 1800 is obviously unacceptable. __________________ Like a ship without an anchor, like a slave without a chain, just the thought of those sweet ladies sends a shiver through my veins. And I will go on shining, shining like brand new. I'll never look behind me, my troubles will be few. Goodbye stranger, it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise. Tried to see your point of view, hope your dreams will all come true. Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane, will we ever meet again? Feel no sorrow, feel no shame. Come tomorrow, feel no pain.

07-01-2009, 10:49 AM	#3169 (permalink)
James You are just another normal! Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 9,399	Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Watching Xxretrulzxx with his agility gems stand in a void zone and leg hump the healers during an encounter is a much better indicator of being a window licker. __________________ Like a ship without an anchor, like a slave without a chain, just the thought of those sweet ladies sends a shiver through my veins. And I will go on shining, shining like brand new. I'll never look behind me, my troubles will be few. Goodbye stranger, it's been nice. Hope you find your paradise. Tried to see your point of view, hope your dreams will all come true. Goodbye Mary, goodbye Jane, will we ever meet again? Feel no sorrow, feel no shame. Come tomorrow, feel no pain.

07-01-2009, 03:46 PM	#3173 (permalink)
Twobit Whore Insert Quarter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 11,204 -13 Internets	It only works on the assumption that if you are getting the highest ilvl items then you sort of know what you are getting and why. __________________ I got a list of demands written on the palm of my hand. I ball my fists and you gonna know where I stand.

07-02-2009, 07:50 AM	#3174 (permalink)
Needless loves internets! Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 2,644	Wowheroes says i should focus on 25 man Ulduar, Thanks WoW Heroes! Icecrown is too hard still Darn you ~2500 rating! Clearly i need over 9000 I still prefer be.imba.hu over that site even though its prettier __________________ XBL: Ouchparcel PSN: visualnothing

07-02-2009, 09:10 PM	#3176 (permalink)
Vardisk Registered User Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 348	Rating sites have always seemed kind of pointless to me. Takes like 15 seconds to load up someone's armory, quickly mouse over their gear, and check their raid meta achievements/dates. Can get a much better idea just doing that than arbitrarily assigning numbers to gear. Either way, will take a good WWS log any day, especially with some of the WWS masters in my guild that open up the raw combat log and filter pure win out of it. __________________ Vardisk < Might >

07-01-2009, 09:52 AM	#3166 (permalink)
Aria Registered User Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 1,061 +7 Internets	So yeah, might be time for a new guild like everyone mentioned. I like my 10man ulduar team (9/14, shitty I know but I like the people), but I think the rest of the guild is full of retards. Today was scheduled as our first 25 man ulduar attempt. Raid time comes up, 13 people online. I half-expected this, I come from the oldschool days where you had a surplus for MC but when BWL came you had 34 members online. We decide to do Naxx25 a half hour later and surprise, everyone logs in. We did Anub and I died while MTing, just slowly watching my health repeatedly drop to the teens. I was getting peeved here. We went to Faerlina and we wiped again. I lost it and told them I was done for the night, threw a little temper tantrum, took my ball and went home. I just can't stand being in a guild like this. I mean, I do a wow-heroes score on some of the guys and half of them are still at 1300-1800 points. Sorry, had to do another mini-rant.

07-01-2009, 01:25 PM	#3172 (permalink)
BurnemWizfyre Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ingleside Texas Posts: 975 -34 Internets	That site takes ilvl way to seriously, just because its a higher ilvl does not make it a better item for your class/spec.

07-02-2009, 11:23 PM	#3177 (permalink)
Jabberwhacky Walker told me I have AIDS Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Busan Posts: 3,336	What's the relative order of 25-man hard modes? My guild just downed Mimi and I'm curious where we can get our feet wet with the bonus shit. FL seems pretty obvious as a first choice, but what comes next?

07-02-2009, 11:44 PM	#3179 (permalink)
Fadaar Detective Fox Mulder Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,624	There's no way you can put Iron Council ahead of Thorim and Hodir. Hodir/Thorim I'd say are interchangeable in the 3/4 position but IC is definitely harder than those 2. __________________

07-03-2009, 12:23 AM	#3180 (permalink)
spronk nerd Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,103	in 10 man, all hard modes except mimiron are fairly easy and killable within 5 attempts. mimiron will take most groups 3-5 hours first try, post nerf. in 25 man, the order is (imo) XT, FL4 (pyrite is key, put 3 ppl on 2 demolishers), hodir (storm your casters), thorim, freya+3, vezaz/yogg+1/council, mimiron. 25 man hard modes are a lot more difficult than 10 man hards, the raid damage is much more intense and the DPS requirements much tighter.

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