[WoW] 3.1 - Ulduar - Page 211

Vinen · 06-30-2009, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Brikker

Random WoW question because I heard this today and thought Blizzard couldn't be THIS fucking stupid:

Is it now considered an exploit to underman a boss? i.e., do Flame Lev with less than the max people (like 1-5 manning it).

wat? That doesn't even fit the definition of an exploit.

James · 06-30-2009, 10:34 PM

Unless you solo the entire DK wing of heroic naxx as a mage~.

Brikker · 06-30-2009, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinen

wat? That doesn't even fit the definition of an exploit.

That's why I thought it was retarded, but I've heard it from multiple people now.

Malice · 06-30-2009, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Brikker

That's why I thought it was retarded, but I've heard it from multiple people now.

Pretty sure it's not undermanning that got the FL people banned, but the methods they used that made the fight possible to 5 man, or however many they used.

Zaphid · 06-30-2009, 11:28 PM

Yeah, they pretty much kited him to Vael's room, although that encounter has enough bugs to put AQ20 to shame.

regret · 07-01-2009, 01:41 AM

You don't have to kite him through the wall or whatever. Kite him between two corners (far right, near left) with a pair of demolishers, having shot down plenty of pyrite pre-encounter, and he dies very very quickly. It's something like 3 target changes on 10man, a bit longer on 25. This isn't an exploit -- it's their own broken ass encounter.

Pyros · 07-01-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by regret

You don't have to kite him through the wall or whatever. Kite him between two corners (far right, near left) with a pair of demolishers, having shot down plenty of pyrite pre-encounter, and he dies very very quickly. It's something like 3 target changes on 10man, a bit longer on 25. This isn't an exploit -- it's their own broken ass encounter.

Pretty sure people talking about the exploit mean 4towers kills, obviously with no tower you can faceroll your way through it and kill it with like 2demolishers. You don't get very far undermanning it with 4towers, or well I guess you can cut on the choppers quite easily, maybe even a tank, but still not anywhere close to doing a 5-10man kill on 25man difficulty.

You can solo the hard mode providing you want to spend hours in there though, using exploits. Or could, no idea if they're fixed. You pull the boss to entrance, wipe, then ru back in, take teleporter, hop in a vehicle, and go fire on the boss who's going back to the starting point extremely slowly(so very far from the room). He also doesn't regen when resetting until he's there, so you can kill him 5% by 5%, just takes a while.

regret · 07-01-2009, 02:34 AM

Oh okay, I guess it's sort of a kneejerk reaction since we always get retards saying LOL EXPLOITZ when we 4man him on various alts.

I can't even imagine spending enough time in there to kill FL the way you describe. Jesus christ. With how easy he is post-nerf it seems really unnecessary.

Zehn - Vhex · 07-01-2009, 04:57 AM

I can understand if you're the first to discover the bug and just want to see if you can in fact solo it. But once it becomes a publically posted about exploit I don't really see the point.

It's like the guy who solo'd Hydraxis. Okay once is pretty awesome, but anybody who spends an hour after that just to kill him is pretty much a tool and deserves to be suspended.

Deathwing · 07-01-2009, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Brikker

That's why I thought it was retarded, but I've heard it from multiple people now.

I heard Jeff Goldblum died last week.

Teron D'Amun · 07-01-2009, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathwing

I heard Jeff Goldblum died last week.

he didn't die, he uh.. changed to become to first insect politician, MP Brundlefly

The Ancient · 07-01-2009, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

I can understand if you're the first to discover the bug and just want to see if you can in fact solo it. But once it becomes a publically posted about exploit I don't really see the point.

It's like the guy who solo'd Hydraxis. Okay once is pretty awesome, but anybody who spends an hour after that just to kill him is pretty much a tool and deserves to be suspended.

Better would have been to quietly hotfix in an invisible runspeed buff that Hydraxis gains after 1 hour. Hopefully they don't catch on til their 3rd attempt.

Mmmkeshek · 07-01-2009, 08:40 AM

You guys should be suspended just for killing Hydraxis, exploits or not. That poor guy has been nothing but nice to you, he just wants to see Ragnaros defeated

The Ancient · 07-01-2009, 08:46 AM

You Giant Water Elemental? You Hydraxis.

spronk · 07-01-2009, 09:09 AM

People got banned for undermanning/4-towering FL because you used to be able to kite him outside his room all the way to the start. He didn't do any of his add-stuff outside his room, so it was a retarded easy kill. Everyone who did that got a 72 hour ban last week however. It had nothing to do with 4-5 manning it, just exploiting bugs in his reset.

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06-30-2009, 11:28 PM	#3155 (permalink)
Zaphid Registered User Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: middle of urop Posts: 426 -6 Internets	Yeah, they pretty much kited him to Vael's room, although that encounter has enough bugs to put AQ20 to shame.

07-01-2009, 01:41 AM	#3156 (permalink)
regret Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ABQ, NM Posts: 259 -7 Internets	You don't have to kite him through the wall or whatever. Kite him between two corners (far right, near left) with a pair of demolishers, having shot down plenty of pyrite pre-encounter, and he dies very very quickly. It's something like 3 target changes on 10man, a bit longer on 25. This isn't an exploit -- it's their own broken ass encounter.

07-01-2009, 02:34 AM	#3158 (permalink)
regret Registered User Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: ABQ, NM Posts: 259 -7 Internets	Oh okay, I guess it's sort of a kneejerk reaction since we always get retards saying LOL EXPLOITZ when we 4man him on various alts. I can't even imagine spending enough time in there to kill FL the way you describe. Jesus christ. With how easy he is post-nerf it seems really unnecessary.

07-01-2009, 04:57 AM	#3159 (permalink)
Zehn - Vhex Lord of the Dance Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 8,796 +166 Internets	I can understand if you're the first to discover the bug and just want to see if you can in fact solo it. But once it becomes a publically posted about exploit I don't really see the point. It's like the guy who solo'd Hydraxis. Okay once is pretty awesome, but anybody who spends an hour after that just to kill him is pretty much a tool and deserves to be suspended.

07-01-2009, 08:40 AM	#3163 (permalink)
Mmmkeshek Registered User Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 72 +3 Internets	You guys should be suspended just for killing Hydraxis, exploits or not. That poor guy has been nothing but nice to you, he just wants to see Ragnaros defeated

07-01-2009, 09:09 AM	#3165 (permalink)
spronk nerd Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 2,095	People got banned for undermanning/4-towering FL because you used to be able to kite him outside his room all the way to the start. He didn't do any of his add-stuff outside his room, so it was a retarded easy kill. Everyone who did that got a 72 hour ban last week however. It had nothing to do with 4-5 manning it, just exploiting bugs in his reset.