[WoW] 3.1 - Ulduar

[Plorkyeran]

Originally Posted by Araxen

Blizz forced all mods to be open source with their new policy. You have to show your code. They can do what they want.

No, they didn't. Being able to see the unobfuscated source code to something does not give you permission to do actually anything with that source code.

Originally Posted by Ao-

Didn't they do that with several mods? SCT, Advanced Macros, some other ones... etc.

No. Copying the functionality of an addon is not at all the same thing as copying and pasting the code.

[Mist]

Originally Posted by Qhue

I know they dont have the same exact set up for all their servers... however with the sheer volume of cash they rake in they COULD have the exact same setup for every server. Then it would simply be a matter of perfecting the deployment on their internal test cluster and replicating that X times throughout the server farms.

Either their whole network structure is a spaghetti mess that has completely unpredictable behavior, or they are pretty darn bad at doing their job. I would have to imagine that its the former and not the latter, but this wont even remotely effect their bottom line so there is zero impetus to do this well.

They could have all the servers down for a few days and not see a single lost subscriber.

I imagine the problem is backing up and converting the databases to each new version, not actually deploying the code to the world servers. Each patch must make major structural changes to how world, item and character data is stored.

[Nehrak]

Originally Posted by Mist

I imagine the problem is backing up and converting the databases to each new version, not actually deploying the code to the world servers. Each patch must make major structural changes to how world, item and character data is stored.

I wouldn't say that for every patch, but major ones, sure. Expansion patches, this one (dual spec alone is enough; it changes the pfile size a bit)... things like that where player or NPC data gets a size adjustment.

But I do agree it's probably the databases and char files acting up for whatever reason.

[Tuco]

Originally Posted by Plorkyeran

No, they didn't. Being able to see the unobfuscated source code to something does not give you permission to do actually anything with that source code.


No. Copying the functionality of an addon is not at all the same thing as copying and pasting the code.

I doubt they would copy/paste the code anyway. Their quality process wouldn't allow it and by the time they conformed the UI code and tested it, it'd look quite different. Different enough to avoid legal trouble from some guy who wrote some xml/lua for a game owned by the offending party? Probably.

[Cad]

Originally Posted by Xequecal

No they don't. I'm not exactly sure where the line is drawn, but Blizzard most certainly could not just, for example, take a popular mod, copy the LUA code line for line and integrate it into the base UI without the author's permission.

Mods would most likely be classified derivative works, yes Blizzard would in that case own the copyright. They absolutely could copy it line for line into the base UI.

[Kreugen]

If they had cockblocked wowmatrix back when the curse updater was a steaming pile of shit I'd be annoyed, but the curse client is pretty nice now and I'm glad for the switch.

[equobix]

do not merge any of your accounts.

Im pretty sure battle.net accounts were made to prevent people from "cashing out" of wow and selling all their stuff to play diablo 3 and starcraft two. If you merge your shit if you ever want to sell your toon you'd also be selling your starcraft and diablo shit with it.

[Araxen]

duh

[Plorkyeran]

Originally Posted by Cad

Mods would most likely be classified derivative works, yes Blizzard would in that case own the copyright. They absolutely could copy it line for line into the base UI.

Unless the mod uses code from the base UI (which a decent number of them do, although far fewer than there were a few years ago), there's nothing about them that makes them derivative works. That's also not how derivative works work; the original copyright holder doesn't magically gain ownership of the new material created.

[Sharmai]

WTF happen to the shaman totem change that was going to combine healing + mana totems?

[CyrusReij]

Lolol, so I walked into H Gundrak, and on the first pull, the instance freezes, cant zone out, cant cast, cant logout etc. I Alt F4d only now my character has no zone, and when it goes to load Gundrak, it loads the bar, then sits there ad infinitum, yay being cockblocked out when I'm just trying to run Heroics :\

[syeren]

Originally Posted by Sharmai

WTF happen to the shaman totem change that was going to combine healing + mana totems?

Not happening.

Basically Blizzard said they were going to do a bunch of shit for Shamans like usual, and then failed to deliver on 99% of them, like usual.

An example would be that the big thing about 3.1 was that they were going to fix 'Totem stomping' macros, but they bailed on that.

[Sharmai]

Stoneclaw totem does some kind of totem protecting thing. Was that there before? That might be what they meant. As the server just went down I don't have a chance to test it.

[Vinen]

So nice. Some servers fucked some not.. ohh boy. Not to mention bugged/(or retarded?) trash and a bugged boss. GG Blizzard, GG...

[nosf]

Can't even log on now; we all zoned into Ulduar and blammo! Dead instance server.