Favorite MMORPG Weapon/Item

[Dumar]

there is absolutely no comparison between items in everquest and world of warcraft. i can name probably every item my eq characters wore at the end and many, many, maaany while leveling up. the power acquired from just any one item in everquest was tremendous and deeply impacted your character. complete and utter opposite in warcraft.

i couldn't name half the items my characters in wow have now, much less leveling up. the flavor items like orb of deception are only flavor items 5m outta every 30. mask of deception was perm. who gives a shit for a 5m use item?

wow encounters are generally fun, but everything else about the game screams yawn, especially the items.

[Seventh]

Originally Posted by Eyashusa

This and PGT were two of the most iconic weapons in vanilla EQ. If I remember correctly PGT was one of the first weapons to be turned Lore so that you couldn't dual wield them.

And of course the lines and the camps for PGT were some of the original epic camps. The one thing I miss about EQ that I wish WoW did was show a mob wielding weapons so you knew if he would drop what you wanted him to or not.

I think I was in HHK when I finally leveled high enough to use it. I felt so badass. Whoever negged me for mentioning it can kiss my ass, I busted my ass for that thing.

[T-rex]

Voice of the Serpent holds a special place in my heart, mostly because of the camp. but if you didn't have a guild that was actively kill SV (and with all that clearing who wanted to go back there for a bard?) you had to use VoTS untill you were singing capped. And as they added AAs that became more and more of a grind.

Of course Desiccated Halfling Mask holds a special place in my heart. I could go from a retarded Half-Elf to an awesome looking Halfling with the click of a button. I didn't have to shrink for raids and fuck that was a long and tedious camp.

Quite frankly, I loved turning into a halfling (the face with the truck driver mustache obviously) get drunk and dual wield broken bottles from LoY.

Singing Short Sword was pretty cool, too, and lasted a long time. And I have to give a slight nod to Frayed Barbarian Hide Mask, because pulling and killing AoW was just too much fun.

So, I guess EQ only meant singing mods and illusions to me /shrug.

[Aborath]

Of course Desiccated Halfling Mask holds a special place in my heart. I could go from a retarded Half-Elf to an awesome looking Halfling with the click of a button. I didn't have to shrink for raids and fuck that was a long and tedious camp.

Quite frankly, I loved turning into a halfling (the face with the truck driver mustache obviously) get drunk and dual wield broken bottles from LoY.

I was so happy when the Orb of Deception was discovered in vanilla WoW. It seemed like a return to the sought after after vanity items of old... then it was nerfed. :/

[Zehn - Vhex]

Originally Posted by Obtenor

This.

Wall of text inc. Boobs after.

Well, it depends on what you use them for. I had beads and CoS and pretty much never used them on raids. That's the point I was trying ultimately to make. Raid loot didn't really change much once SoE figured out we'd exploit the shit out of everything and anything when we could and they nerfed pretty much anything and everything we even tried to sploit with. HEB's lasted the longest, allowing our monks to sploit pull shit in NToV, and that was about the end of it.

Raid loot in EQ was pretty much all "Same shit ++" with the only notable exception being people who would use mass-group summon bread to crash the bazaar.

Was some early shit exploitable and out of whack? Sure, but 99% of it wasn't raid loot and it was mostly because itemization was fucking terrible. A lot of items were only good because Verant never bothered to offer an upgrade.

WoW does.

And again, this is all raid loot, which was relatively boring and stable. A naked wizard and a fully kitted out wizard did THE EXACT SAME DPS up until the introduction of focus items, at which point a wizard wearing mage summoned focus items WAS DOING THE EXACT SAME DPS as a fully kitted out wizard.

WoW was going down that path to begin with until they said, "Hey, this is fucking retarded" and added meta stats, and now so much shit interetwines that the I'm sure colleges will soon be offering "Advanced DPS" courses to help kids figure this shit out.

Anyways...

My main point is, if you browse through this thread with one notable exception (bladestorm) most people are pointing to other things. Definitely not raid loot. I haven't seen a single person mention the Crimson Robe of Alandine, or Lustrous Russet, or all sorts of other raid loot crap.

But everybody remembers their first major weapon upgrade. And more then that, we mostly remember all the quirky items. And it really depends on your gaming sphere.

I posted before a shitload of WoW items that really did change the way we played the game before they were nerfed. Hard packed snowballs, the lion horn of stormwind, the judge's gavel, the unstoppable force. Other items that didn't really change the way the game is played but are certainly 'must have's' for collectors like the piccolo, Direbrew's remote (Which is ridiculous fun in Arathi Basin/WSG or anywhere your party members have to click on stuff....), the haunted memento which gives you a permanant shade pet and will I imagine become a real collector item in a few years. The list goes on and on.

Anyways...

[LadyVex]

You motherfucker, Vhex you were part of that Elegy group that jerked off our matches in WSG with that fucking gavel weren't you? God.

That thing gave me seizures for weeks.

[Zignor 2]

Getting some stupid item after camping it for 3 billion hours notwithstanding, I was definitely at my most excited when I looted Gaudralek, Sword of the Sky. Awesome graphic, great DPS and excellent agro for its time. I felt like the king of EQ for a day when Vyemm coughed it up for me.

[Rudd]

Originally Posted by LadyVex

You motherfucker, Vhex you were part of that Elegy group that jerked off our matches in WSG with that fucking gavel weren't you? God.

That thing gave me seizures for weeks.

And it gave the other members of Vent headaches listening to her bellyache for hours on end about Frog owning us with that Gavel or the MC-run-out-the-zone-portal trick.

[Churchill]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Wall of text inc. Boobs after.

Well, it depends on what you use them for. I had beads and CoS and pretty much never used them on raids. That's the point I was trying ultimately to make. Raid loot didn't really change much once SoE figured out we'd exploit the shit out of everything and anything when we could and they nerfed pretty much anything and everything we even tried to sploit with. HEB's lasted the longest, allowing our monks to sploit pull shit in NToV, and that was about the end of it.

Raid loot in EQ was pretty much all "Same shit ++" with the only notable exception being people who would use mass-group summon bread to crash the bazaar.

Was some early shit exploitable and out of whack? Sure, but 99% of it wasn't raid loot and it was mostly because itemization was fucking terrible. A lot of items were only good because Verant never bothered to offer an upgrade.

WoW does.

And again, this is all raid loot, which was relatively boring and stable. A naked wizard and a fully kitted out wizard did THE EXACT SAME DPS up until the introduction of focus items, at which point a wizard wearing mage summoned focus items WAS DOING THE EXACT SAME DPS as a fully kitted out wizard.

WoW was going down that path to begin with until they said, "Hey, this is fucking retarded" and added meta stats, and now so much shit interetwines that the I'm sure colleges will soon be offering "Advanced DPS" courses to help kids figure this shit out.

Anyways...

My main point is, if you browse through this thread with one notable exception (bladestorm) most people are pointing to other things. Definitely not raid loot. I haven't seen a single person mention the Crimson Robe of Alandine, or Lustrous Russet, or all sorts of other raid loot crap.

But everybody remembers their first major weapon upgrade. And more then that, we mostly remember all the quirky items. And it really depends on your gaming sphere.

I posted before a shitload of WoW items that really did change the way we played the game before they were nerfed. Hard packed snowballs, the lion horn of stormwind, the judge's gavel, the unstoppable force. Other items that didn't really change the way the game is played but are certainly 'must have's' for collectors like the piccolo, Direbrew's remote (Which is ridiculous fun in Arathi Basin/WSG or anywhere your party members have to click on stuff....), the haunted memento which gives you a permanant shade pet and will I imagine become a real collector item in a few years. The list goes on and on.

Anyways...

Those WoW items have NOTHING on the EQ items we all remember and you damn well know it. Do you always have to put a damper on EQ discussions?

No, really...is it in your contract or something?

[Rudd]

Originally Posted by Churchill

Those WoW items have NOTHING on the EQ items we all remember and you damn well know it. Do you always have to put a damper on EQ discussions?

No, really...is it in your contract or something?

It's Vhex. It's sort of his M.O. to shit on any argument no matter what the topic.

Next thing you know, L2 will be in here if you're not careful.

[Arbitrary]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

My main point is, if you browse through this thread with one notable exception (bladestorm) most people are pointing to other things. Definitely not raid loot. I haven't seen a single person mention the Crimson Robe of Alandine, or Lustrous Russet, or all sorts of other raid loot crap.

Epics, Primal, Ton Po's Mystical Eyepatch, Darkblade of the Warlord, Earring of Sad Exploitation, Edge of Eternity, Mistwalker, Talisman of Vah Kerrah, Sal`Varae's Robe of Darkness, and so on were all mentioned. That covers up to PoP and that's far enough.

[Zehn - Vhex]

Originally Posted by Churchill

Those WoW items have NOTHING on the EQ items we all remember and you damn well know it. Do you always have to put a damper on EQ discussions?

No, really...is it in your contract or something?

I think you just missed the whole point. I'll just chalk it up to not wanting to read so much text. It's okay.

The tl;dr version for you would be "Raid items are typically boring, the other shit we use to break the game and play outside the rules are many and varied in both games and you tend to remember the shit you sploited more."

I get bored at work so tend to get a bit wordy. I apologize. I should really learn to just cliff notes shit for people who don't have the time to figure out what I'm trying to say.

[Rudd]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

I think you just missed the whole point. I'll just chalk it up to not wanting to read so much text. It's okay.

The tl;dr version for you would be "Raid items are typically boring, the other shit we use to break the game and play outside the rules are many and varied in both games and you tend to remember the shit you sploited more."

I get bored at work so tend to get a bit wordy. I apologize. I should really learn to just cliff notes shit for people who don't have the time to figure out what I'm trying to say.

The days of appreciating long winded well thought out posts have gone the way of the EQ-type item camp, Vhex.

People want their shit now without having to sit down and actually read through said post.

[Vardisk]

Originally Posted by Churchill

Those WoW items have NOTHING on the EQ items we all remember and you damn well know it. Do you always have to put a damper on EQ discussions?

Ahhh, the nostalgia fueled EQ fanboi is strong in this one.

[Zest]

I couldn't tell you what my Monk was wearing when I quit EQ... but I can remember the 9000 clickies I had that let me cheat my way through the game.

WoW has had just as many bullshit items... it's just that Blizzard actually fixes them and we don't spend thousands of pp recharging our puppet strings.