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Old 01-11-2009, 03:05 PM   #4471 (permalink)
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Any other miners starting to think that there is a mining exploit? I've found several nodes where I've been able to hit them once or twice and then I get the message that the node is currently in use. After about 15 seconds of this message and no one around me it disappears. I've had this happen at least 6 times in the last couple weeks, usually on Titanium nodes.
I've run into several instances of people using some type of warp hack/modification tool that changes your XYZ coords.

I caught a level 50 Pally that was mining a node that I could target with tab targeting, but constantly got LOS issues, then the guy was just gone. It looks like he might have been keeping himself right below the actual game ground so that mobs couldn't attack them.


Oh, and a comment about DW'ing and Killing Machine being broken:

I gained about 500-550 DPS with the new build on the PTR with the KM changes. I parsed about 4 million damage against the heroic dummy in several different specs pre newest build and all were very close for me, coming out around 2100-2200 DPS. Over this same period of damage with the new patch on the PTR I was running 2650-2700 DPS.

I can see them "nerfing" Killing Machine, I'm just afraid that they are going to absolutely destroy the spec, when they are only talking about nerfing Deep Wounds for Fury Warriors. Man, fuck those guys.

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Old 01-11-2009, 03:43 PM   #4472 (permalink)
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Any other miners starting to think that there is a mining exploit? I've found several nodes where I've been able to hit them once or twice and then I get the message that the node is currently in use. After about 15 seconds of this message and no one around me it disappears. I've had this happen at least 6 times in the last couple weeks, usually on Titanium nodes.
It's people in different quest phases mining it. You'll see this a lot in icecrown, particularly around Scourgeholme ( as the entire thing, including 30 some node spawns, swaps into a different phase when you reclaim Crusader's Pinnacle )
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:19 PM   #4473 (permalink)
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So since Dream Shards are going to be required for a lot of enchants whenever the patch comes around, is it a good idea to start buying in bulk while the price per shard is still only ~10-15g?
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:30 PM   #4474 (permalink)
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The prices might rise, but not that much I think, I wouldn't invest too much. At least you won't lose money but well.

Btw what are decent stats to do pug heroics as a healer? I have 1300healing 17k mana and 22%crit which looks fucking awful as a holydin. It seems hard for me to be able to run naxx this week too on this alt since most ppl cleared it.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:40 PM   #4475 (permalink)
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The prices might rise, but not that much I think, I wouldn't invest too much. At least you won't lose money but well.

Btw what are decent stats to do pug heroics as a healer? I have 1300healing 17k mana and 22%crit which looks fucking awful as a holydin. It seems hard for me to be able to run naxx this week too on this alt since most ppl cleared it.
Int is a holy paladin'ss main stat, so huge crit/sp numbers aren't hugely important. You should be able to run naxx on that if you are good. I think I first ran it with slightly better stats, but nothing horrendously superior. I find max mana pool to be the best judge of a holy paladin at this point.
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Old 01-11-2009, 05:47 PM   #4476 (permalink)
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Int is a holy paladin'ss main stat, so huge crit/sp numbers aren't hugely important. You should be able to run naxx on that if you are good. I think I first ran it with slightly better stats, but nothing horrendously superior. I find max mana pool to be the best judge of a holy paladin at this point.
Yeah that's also what I'm mainly looking at, int, but it seems low. Oh well guess I'll see if I can find a few heroic groups, thanks for the quick answer.
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Old 01-11-2009, 06:57 PM   #4477 (permalink)
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[quote=Mageling;1294538]I've run into several instances of people using some type of warp hack/modification tool that changes your XYZ coords.

Without being alarmist, I also suspect that some new hack/mod is making the rounds. I encountered a Paladin popping from coord to coord the other day. He was clearly surprised to see me and quit doing it almost, but not quite, immediately. Let's just say that both of us were in a place where no one usually goes...
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I've run into several instances of people using some type of warp hack/modification tool that changes your XYZ coords.

Without being alarmist, I also suspect that some new hack/mod is making the rounds. I encountered a Paladin popping from coord to coord the other day. He was clearly surprised to see me and quit doing it almost, but not quite, immediately. Let's just say that both of us were in a place where no one usually goes...
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The more I quest in Northrend the more I am getting sick of click on item X in your inventory when mob Y is dead or low health or not in combat. Between clicking on something every other quest and that stupid vehicle screen every dozen quests I am starting lose interest. Don't get me wrong the vehicle screen was cool the 1st time I did it but after the 20th time (especially when I could kill the mobs faster as my actual character) it gets real annoying. Anyone else feel the same way?


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I agree completely, that stuff is really annoying.

Also I fucking hate all the 'in the water' quests. Movement speed gets excruciatingly slow, can't eat or drink and some of them are way out in the water which means you have spend what feels like an eternity to get to the quest area. Seriously not fun at all.
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Old 01-11-2009, 11:29 PM   #4480 (permalink)
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Question for you DK tanks out there. A good friend of mine is a DK tank naxx 10 geared. He struggles to pull about 4k TPS.

He says paladins with less gear and moreso warriors on single target pull 5-6k and he doesn't know what he's doing wrong.

Says his rotation is:

it pb ob bs bs ob ob ob repeat.

The World of Warcraft Armory

Is his gear.


Crunch time is coming because he's trying out for my guild's OT position tuesday so I want to make sure he's got his shit together.
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Oh, and a comment about DW'ing and Killing Machine being broken:

I gained about 500-550 DPS with the new build on the PTR with the KM changes. I parsed about 4 million damage against the heroic dummy in several different specs pre newest build and all were very close for me, coming out around 2100-2200 DPS. Over this same period of damage with the new patch on the PTR I was running 2650-2700 DPS.

I can see them "nerfing" Killing Machine, I'm just afraid that they are going to absolutely destroy the spec, when they are only talking about nerfing Deep Wounds for Fury Warriors. Man, fuck those guys.

I expect a heavy nerf. DK are currently in the crosshairs at Blizzard, despite the complaints being all smoke no fire. Im not sure if its to appease the public or what.
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Old 01-12-2009, 12:17 AM   #4483 (permalink)
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DK threat is very gear/weapon/buff dependant. In a bad 10man, like with no AP buff, you'll probably get buttfucked by casters. If he has a shitty weapon it won't help either, and if he doesn't dodge/parry enough to generate the runestrikes, it also blows.

Now in his particular case:
He wants 2points out of subversion into 2h weap spec, it's higher threat per point. He needs to upgrade his weapon pretty badly, but that's a bit luck dependant, a 200DPS weapon does make a decent difference in single threat however. He wants to regem some of his gear, specifically helm into something a bit better. Then he wants to switch his rotation to Blood tap(only on pull), IT OB OB BS and just keep repeating that, switching the IT and BS. He should have OB glyph, so using plague strike is a waste of time.

That should be it, but as I said, if he's in a shitty melee group, he'll get fucked, that happens often. Especially the AP buff. Get battleshout or blessing of might at all cost, if possible add windfury/kings/rampage/lotp and in the best case, BoSanctuary. Warriors do more threat early on, and paladins exploit a bug so they're not even close to being in the same league currently, sky rocketting into 10k sustained threat, but with a good weapon, a solid rotation and at least a few random buffs, DKs do fine. Some bosses suck more than others though, but as an example, I have to autoattack/dump RP on gargoyle(no threat) for like a whole minute in a 3mins patchwerk kill if I don't want to overtake our prot war MTing it. It's just that easy with 1s attacks. Then on sarth or malygos, every fucking casters is riding my threat, and in 10man it's just pathetic if we make casters heavy groups;l ike for sarth 3d 10man, only had another DK as melee, was fighting hard to get 3k TPS on sarth, the night before high melee group with like enh shaman fury war rogue tricking me, was putting out 7k DPS on drakes while howlblasting whelps and shit like that.

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I've run into several instances of people using some type of warp hack/modification tool that changes your XYZ coords.
This has been around FOREVER. It will get you banned right quick for using it, though. But Blizzard has never bothered to fix the underlying issue, which is that the client is allowed to arbitrarily report your XYZ to the server and the server will accept whatever it gets fed. (The same reason very lagged people bounce all over the place) Obviously it is very easy to detect when you abuse it, though.
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This has been around FOREVER. It will get you banned right quick for using it, though. But Blizzard has never bothered to fix the underlying issue, which is that the client is allowed to arbitrarily report your XYZ to the server and the server will accept whatever it gets fed. (The same reason very lagged people bounce all over the place) Obviously it is very easy to detect when you abuse it, though.
There has never been, and most likely never will be, an MMORPG where player position is done server side.
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