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[Vehn]

nice... a mage has solo'd the military wing of H-Naxx

[Felonius]

well fuck there goes my guilds way of doing rauzovious... the thing i liked about this encounter with a mage tank (we have 2 priests who have shit attendance, low pop horde server can go fuck itself) was that it was a harder way of doing it yet was an option if you found yourself in the shitty aforementioned recruiting problem

i dont want achievements or "hard modes", i want different but equally viable strats to the same bosses

[Ukerric]

Originally Posted by Rusty Dagger

...but anything a robust AI can do to perfection to me = boring.

Where's an unpredictable event where you have to think on the spot as to what the best countermeasure is?

That's where AI shines. Far better than you. The Ossirian example you gave is something AIs can execute to perfection. They can keep track of everything, model the probable positions of tornados X seconds in the future, and move everything while spamming the appropriate actions without missing a beat.

Heck, I know. 20 years ago, I was working on automated frigate fire. You have an incoming missile, and 3 separate flights of possible hostiles coming in, any of which can launch a couple additional missiles. Which one do you shoot first, knowing exactly your chances of hitting and the maximum rotation rate of your turrets for aiming? And unlike a guild, you can't tell your fire officers that they suck after the wipe

(OTOH, I agree about the reaction rather than bot-level automation. I was talking about "real AIs", not the scripted bot things we see in WoW)

[Azrayne]

Originally Posted by Vehn

nice... a mage has solo'd the military wing of H-Naxx

They'll probably hotfix this on tuesday as well

[Nehrak]

Originally Posted by Vehn

nice... a mage has solo'd the military wing of H-Naxx

And the real kick in the pants is that this mage did the 4H achievement on top of soloing them.

... Yeah I think it's safe to say Bone Armor is going to not be flagged Magic very quickly. :P

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Nehrak

And the real kick in the pants is that this mage did the 4H achievement on top of soloing them.

... Yeah I think it's safe to say Bone Armor is going to not be flagged Magic very quickly. :P

we're really looking forward to trash mobs that cast a nondispellable 1.2m absorb shield

[Northerner]

The funny part is that spells need to be specifically flagged to be spell-stolen. It isn't like a Mage can just gank anything off of any mob.

The fix is easy and will only impact Raz or trash clears I suppose but they could alternately just give them an attack that dispels the effect on melee to stop solo efforts. No doubt it will be dealt with via a surgical I-Beam though.

[Gnome Eater]

Originally Posted by Sean

Hunter DPS has absolutely nothing to do with the Readiness 50/21 spec and it becomes a terrible spec the higher your guild's DPS is and the shorter the fights are. Once you get under a certain point its main advantage of an extra BW becomes impossible to use, which was never much of an advantage to begin with except on very specific fight lengths where it gave one BW over the other specs. Too short and it did nothing, too long and it also did nothing.

Wow Web Stats

2:38 Patchwerk - I did 6,472 as 54/14/3

My pet? She did 3,436 of that DPS - 53% of my damage. Scorpid Poison was higher than my Steady Shot's contribution, the pet's Swing was higher than my Auto-Shot.

In general, I tend to cream 99.99% of Hunters on every fight on there. For reference I do never get Hysteria or Tricks because they are a waste on a BM Hunter.

The "secret" is going wholly for AP, using Aspect of the Beast the entire boss fight (switch to Hawk for Volleying trash), and using the Steady Shot/Bestial Wrath/Aspect of the Beast Glyphs.

To be fair I also always Flask and use AP food too.

Note that my own personal DPS is only 3036 on there. That's really not out of whack if pets were brought down to the 2k-ish area. I find it hilarious that they're gutting Steady Shot, raping BM, and not understanding what's really making Hunter's absurd. Readiness was never even better on paper or in spreadsheets.

Btw, look for Survival Hunters to be pulling out 7k+ DPS if PTR goes Live as is.~

Hah, that's interesting Sean - nice parse. I think the usefulness of 21 in survival depends entirely on the fight length - your build completely based on pet damage is really neat though, I'll link it to some guild hunters.

[Torrid]

Originally Posted by Surlok TP

Tenacity isn't broken at all. Horde had maybe 30 people in the zone to our 40+ and we had 20 stacks GG.

I have serious doubts that Tenacity is working properly, however in that particular case it was working as intended. The server does not calculate tenacity instantly. To do so would squander server resources, and as we all can see, the hardware hosting Wintergrasp could use every spare cycle it can get. Anyway, what happened is that your 20 stack of tenacity was calculated before the portal opened and your 40 man raid clicked in. You didn't have tenacity for long. (or if you did, that would be unusual) Although I would agree that it should probably be recalculated a little sooner after the portal opens.

I have seen many cases of when my Alliance had some tenacity when they sure as hell did not appear to have fewer players. Of course Black Dragonflight Horde are terrible, so they could either just be getting slaughtered so badly that most of us are either dead or running back, or our jackass Horde players could be harvesting nodes during the fight. Probably both.

Speaking of Wintergrasp bugs, (of which there are many) one I've noticed is that our Alliance ALWAYS have the workshops first no matter who is defending. They never have to capture them at the start. I've also seen Alliance get siege vehicles in literally less than 60 seconds. And this was late at night where they couldn't possibly have killed 12 players in anywhere near that time.

[fucker]

Originally Posted by Vehn

nice... a mage has solo'd the military wing of H-Naxx

can someone explain me what happened here? why that mage wasnt getting squashed by all those mobs?

[Cybsled]

He stole some NPC's buff I imagine, and the NPC buff was tuned for a raid level mob and not a player.

[SalaciousTunare]

Originally Posted by fucker

can someone explain me what happened here? why that mage wasnt getting squashed by all those mobs?

The mage is spell stealing the two Death Knight Cavaliers, the Cavaliers have 1.2kmillion hp bone shield absorb buff that can be stolen and then re-stolen.

Add that in with Incanter's Absorption, an arcane talent that raises your spell dmg by 10% of the amount of damage absorbed for 10 seconds, and this is why he is nuking for 200k.

[Ionsniper]

Heh my guild called BS on a mage spell stealing boneshield to tank rav in a H-Naxx. Looks like they were all wrong.

[Xequecal]

Does anyone else think enchant prices are becoming retarded? The prices of all enchanting mats except Dream Shards are going UP, not down. Abyss Crystals are 250g and GCEs are 40g on my server, which means a Fury Warrior who wants 2x Berserking is spending 6000 gold just on his weapon enchants. This is going to get even worse when 3.0.8 is released, as both new recipies cost 5 Abyss Crystals to purchase, sucking even more of the supply out.

[Ionsniper]

Its largely due to the lack of disenchant able greens once you hit 80 and run out of quests. Theyve made dust and GCE's so rare now that theyve become the defining factor in the prices of enchants.

All they need to do to fix it is an ability to prospect dream shards for dust and essences. So many blues from instances get DE'd so the market is flooded with dream shards.