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Kuro · 12-10-2008, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zerai

Warriors are so badass...it'd reflect back to space.

And destroy the Draenei Mothership?!?!

Humor: Blood Aura stacks with itself. With the healing doubled next patch, that means a 25 man All-Blood-Spec DK raid has 100% Lifetap on all damage dealt.

TALK ABOOT MANLY

Vinen · 12-10-2008, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCutlery

Replaced with what? Seems odd.

Ferals are going to be obtaining their power off some other formula in relationship to the weapon. This means all your nify two-handed maces... are now Targets for Ferals. I can't find the blue post but I've heard it in many places...

Erumaron · 12-10-2008, 12:33 PM

My only beef with spell reflect on my prot warrior is how inconsistant they are with what you can and cannot reflect. I can't reflect the shadow bolt from the first boss in heroic UK but I can reflect spells from other bosses in other zones....things like that.

James · 12-10-2008, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Murr

Where would the meteor reflect to, back into the ceiling?

Just back to the person who cast it -- the look on their face as their evil smirk gets wiped away by a frightened scowl as the meteor descends upon them would be fuckin priceless. Korth'azz wouldn't know what hit him.

I pop Spell Reflect every meteor in the hopes that it might bug out and reflect back

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Pyros · 12-10-2008, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Kuro

And destroy the Draenei Mothership?!?!

Humor: Blood Aura stacks with itself. With the healing doubled next patch, that means a 25 man All-Blood-Spec DK raid has 100% Lifetap on all damage dealt.

TALK ABOOT MANLY

It doesn't. Even if it did, no tank is going to live off just 100%lifetap, even spamming deathstrikes.

Kuro · 12-10-2008, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyros

It doesn't. Even if it did, no tank is going to live off just 100%lifetap, even spamming deathstrikes.

The EJ thread I was reading through said it did stack with itself (and only itself, not with the stance healing), it's just so bloody (pun!) awful, even with that, that no one takes it anyhow. Haven't had a chance to group with another DK to confirm it... and I'd have to spec the thing to do so.

And yes, I know they wouldn't survive. Thus presaging the passage with "Humor:"

Murr · 12-10-2008, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheCutlery

Replaced with what? Seems odd.

I think they're making druid dps scale off 2h Weapon DPS instead of Feral AP. Ghostcrawler said you could use that epic fishing pole if you wanted to.

Deathwing · 12-10-2008, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Incognitogamer

Upcoming DK changes from MMO-Champion:
New runeforge rune -- Rune of the Stoneskin Gargoyle (two-handed only) now grants 25 Defense and 2% Stamina.
New death knight sigils are now available, primarily from vendors, including a tanking-oriented sigil.

There's actually a bunch of DK changes going in the next patch, I recommend you follow the link and read up on 'em.

So...where's the druid's tanking-based idol? I'm still using the terror idol.

Also, someone commented a page back about bears getting nerfed...how so? Unless you're referring to the "recent" armor nerf from 400% to 370%.

Man, they hammered IBF and Bone Shield:

Icebound Fortitude – now reduces damage by 20% instead of 50%. The amount of damage reduced increases with bonus Defense (to about 35% for 540 Defense, but it can go higher). The stun immunity is intended to be its primary role in PvP.

Bone Shield -- mitigation reduced from 40% to 20%.

Will probably make frost the best tanking spec now. I think this was warranted though, DK's were mitigating way too much physical damage, in frost or unholy specs.

Zerai · 12-10-2008, 12:58 PM

The bear deal was the constant rebalancing them in beta. Since they were going to be the best tank bar none if they didn't do something.

And I must agree with the inconsistancies about spell reflect. Kara always pissed me off when you get out of 5 mans where spell reflect is golden, then it's like, AHAHA YOU CAN'T REFLECT SHIT FUCKERS. Drove me nuts.

And yeah, first boss of UK you go..why? When the second boss of strath is basically the exact same but you can reflect it.

Madrugan · 12-10-2008, 01:18 PM

Reflect at the very minimum should be partial reflection, not just outright incapability. The fact that they give warriors a spell-mitigation ability, and then deliberately choke it in a variety of encounters, is irritating. Just Bad.

GrobbeeTrull2.0 · 12-10-2008, 01:22 PM

Oh man, my DK tank isn't going to like this one bit.

Quineloe · 12-10-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Vinen

Blizzard is trying to avoid Single Class, Single Spec (well role in Death Knights case) weapons. How many other classes would use a weapon that wasted points on Defense?

Plate With Spellpower?
That's actually single class, single spec as it either has Str on it so it's Retribution, or it doesn't in which case it's Holy.

A 2H sword with def stats on it could be used by any DK spec to tank.

Vinen · 12-10-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Quineloe

Plate With Spellpower?
That's actually single class, single spec as it either has Str on it so it's Retribution, or it doesn't in which case it's Holy.

A 2H sword with def stats on it could be used by any DK spec to tank.

I mentioned that with the DK spec to tank (Thats what the whole, well Role in the Death Knights case, comment was by me). And wasn't blizzard throwing around ideas which would lead to the removal of spellpower from plate?

Zerai · 12-10-2008, 01:46 PM

The 31 point holy talent should be:

Plated Dress:
Items armor value now equal to same level plate.

They can now wear cloth, leather, mail, and it will have the armor of a plate piece of the same ilvl.

Fadaar · 12-10-2008, 01:47 PM

Even as a paladin I'm tired of seeing so much spell power plate. From our Nax25 clear yesterday we had 5 pieces of actual spellpower plate, not even including pieces like neck/ring/back that are spell power/crit/mp5.

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GrobbeeTrull2.0 Registered User Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Dayton, Ohio Posts: 4,172	Oh man, my DK tank isn't going to like this one bit. __________________ "When the last tree has died; and the last river been poisoned; and the last fish been caught, we will realise that we cannot eat money." - Cree proverb

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Fadaar Detective Fox Mulder Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,595	Even as a paladin I'm tired of seeing so much spell power plate. From our Nax25 clear yesterday we had 5 pieces of actual spellpower plate, not even including pieces like neck/ring/back that are spell power/crit/mp5. __________________

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12-10-2008, 12:33 PM	#2208 (permalink)
Erumaron yeap yeap Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 1,376	My only beef with spell reflect on my prot warrior is how inconsistant they are with what you can and cannot reflect. I can't reflect the shadow bolt from the first boss in heroic UK but I can reflect spells from other bosses in other zones....things like that.

12-10-2008, 12:58 PM	#2214 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 3,871 +6 Internets	The bear deal was the constant rebalancing them in beta. Since they were going to be the best tank bar none if they didn't do something. And I must agree with the inconsistancies about spell reflect. Kara always pissed me off when you get out of 5 mans where spell reflect is golden, then it's like, AHAHA YOU CAN'T REFLECT SHIT FUCKERS. Drove me nuts. And yeah, first boss of UK you go..why? When the second boss of strath is basically the exact same but you can reflect it.

12-10-2008, 01:18 PM	#2215 (permalink)
Madrugan Registered User Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Manhattan Posts: 391 +7 Internets	Reflect at the very minimum should be partial reflection, not just outright incapability. The fact that they give warriors a spell-mitigation ability, and then deliberately choke it in a variety of encounters, is irritating. Just Bad.

12-10-2008, 01:46 PM	#2219 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 3,871 +6 Internets	The 31 point holy talent should be: Plated Dress: Items armor value now equal to same level plate. They can now wear cloth, leather, mail, and it will have the armor of a plate piece of the same ilvl.