[WoW]WotLK

[arkk123]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Honestly I don't want to start a flame war, but I just want to get this off my chest.

Why the fuck is everyone so embarrassed that they play WoW? It's your hobby so you went out at 12am and picked up a collectors edition for 80 bucks instead of going to mcdonalds or watching fucking House like the rest of the lemmings? Good for you.

Even when I went today at 10am to best buy (which is when they opened) and the few dozen kids that were there, fucking hanging their heads like they don't want to be seen. Normal everyday people too. This is the most popular online game of all time, everyone around you plays it but everyone around you is embarassed. I think the EQ stigma where it was all super-nerds has lasted alittle too long. People do much, much worse / unproductive things. Same people who bitch about this are the people who sit with their hands on their balls flipping through TV stations for 6 hours a day (average american viewership for TV is what again? Exactly.)

I don't know, just pisses me off that you guys are all ragging on each other on a MMO messageboard.

Because no one makes a post like this about football, or comic book collecting, or painting, or going to the gym:

Originally Posted by Sharmai

Sigh... I INTENDED to level up my ret paladin. I INTENDED to get to 80 and start raiding on her first and get her geared. I INTENDED to ignore the new DK class entirely because everyone was going to start a DK.

Thats what i intended..... then I made the mistake of trying out a deathknight for the first time ever....


It's so hard to stop the addiction......

The vast majority of people don't do their hobby 6-8 hours a day, nor do they refer to it as an addiction.

[Obtenor]

0 on Ragnaros.

Then again it's all latinos, not a big pop

[AtwaKom]

I admit that when I pre-ordered my CE I kind of acted like it was a drug deal or something. It's 100% different but I'm stuck in the Ye old days of EQ when I was a leper for buying that shit in Best Buy and the only other people I knew that played were 1/2 step up from yetis.

Today when I picked it up I didn't really give a shit and the mostly attractive girl behind the counter complained that no one today came in from her server. Pretty much nullified my distress.

[sticktastic]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Honestly I don't want to start a flame war, but I just want to get this off my chest.

Why the fuck is everyone so embarrassed that they play WoW? It's your hobby so you went out at 12am and picked up a collectors edition for 80 bucks instead of going to mcdonalds or watching fucking House like the rest of the lemmings? Good for you.

Even when I went today at 10am to best buy (which is when they opened) and the few dozen kids that were there, fucking hanging their heads like they don't want to be seen. Normal everyday people too. This is the most popular online game of all time, everyone around you plays it but everyone around you is embarassed. I think the EQ stigma where it was all super-nerds has lasted alittle too long. People do much, much worse / unproductive things. Same people who bitch about this are the people who sit with their hands on their balls flipping through TV stations for 6 hours a day (average american viewership for TV is what again? Exactly.)

I don't know, just pisses me off that you guys are all ragging on each other on a MMO messageboard.

Rant off.

Now, to ask again something I asked previous: How much did they increase leveling from 60-70? Off the top of my head it used to be almots 400k from 60-61? Iirc its 290k now.. but my numbers may be off. Just curious what I have ahead of me on my DK.

Because the continuation of blizzard dumbing down WoW speaks volumes for what it thinks of its millions of subscribers.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by sticktastic

Because the continuation of blizzard dumbing down WoW speaks volumes for what it thinks of its millions of subscribers.

What dumbing down and what that has to do with the post you quoted? WoW is pretty much the same it was back in vanilla, I don't really get how it was dumbed down, instances are more complex, classes are more complex, the only thing that remained the same is leveling, and it wasn't dumbed down, it's exactly the same as vanilla(but there's plenty of addons for mentally challenged idiots).

WoW has millions of subscribers because it doesn't need to be dumbed down, it's simple enough at the most basic level, yet complex enough at the highest levels that most people who actually give a shit about pve are playing it.

[Azrayne]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Honestly I don't want to start a flame war, but I just want to get this off my chest.

Why the fuck is everyone so embarrassed that they play WoW? It's your hobby so you went out at 12am and picked up a collectors edition for 80 bucks instead of going to mcdonalds or watching fucking House like the rest of the lemmings? Good for you.

Even when I went today at 10am to best buy (which is when they opened) and the few dozen kids that were there, fucking hanging their heads like they don't want to be seen. Normal everyday people too. This is the most popular online game of all time, everyone around you plays it but everyone around you is embarassed. I think the EQ stigma where it was all super-nerds has lasted alittle too long. People do much, much worse / unproductive things. Same people who bitch about this are the people who sit with their hands on their balls flipping through TV stations for 6 hours a day (average american viewership for TV is what again? Exactly.)

I don't know, just pisses me off that you guys are all ragging on each other on a MMO messageboard.

Rant off.

Now, to ask again something I asked previous: How much did they increase leveling from 60-70? Off the top of my head it used to be almots 400k from 60-61? Iirc its 290k now.. but my numbers may be off. Just curious what I have ahead of me on my DK.

Tbh there seems to be much less of a stigma about it here in Aus than what people in the US talk about. In my last year of highschool probably 1/3 of the guys in my grade played, spread pretty evenly across the social spectrum. Sure a few people would make jokes, more along the line of 'man that game is boring' than 'haha you play WoW virgin nerd' but it's pretty hard to seriously try and single out WoW players when half the rugby team is playing alongside the computer lab crew.

Beyond that my last job had a fair few players, usually it would come up once every shift or so, and this job had a fairly broad spectrum of 16 - 20ish people working there, again no real stigma. It comes up every so often in social situations as well, classes/parties/in town, obviously it's not something that dominates the discussion, but there's often an off hand mention and a 'oh hey you play? what server?' etc for a minute or two. As long as you're not 'that guy' who talks about it for hours on end in the company of people who don't play, nobody seems to care.

I think it must just be a cultural thing, because I'm sure we have a lower % of players here than in the US (I've never seen game stores packed out on the morning of release, or selling out).

[Draegan]

I hit 60 on my DK a few hours ago. Awesome class. I find it hard not to just spam abilities sometimes and stuff dies.

Magic Runes and customizing it is an awesome addon.

[Kuriin]

Originally Posted by Pyros

What dumbing down and what that has to do with the post you quoted? WoW is pretty much the same it was back in vanilla, I don't really get how it was dumbed down, instances are more complex, classes are more complex, the only thing that remained the same is leveling, and it wasn't dumbed down, it's exactly the same as vanilla(but there's plenty of addons for mentally challenged idiots).

WoW has millions of subscribers because it doesn't need to be dumbed down, it's simple enough at the most basic level, yet complex enough at the highest levels that most people who actually give a shit about pve are playing it.

The only dumbing down occurred would be the instances in TBC...and this only happened at the end of TBC so people could actually see Illidan and maybe KilJaeden. Other than that, there was absolutely no "dumbing" down.

[Flinch]

Originally Posted by sticktastic

Obviously you don't know anything about football, or the super bowl. Very few take off a week for the super bowl, most who are going go for the weekend. Next off, there is noone sitting at the super bowl in facepaint in -30 degree weather, because the super bowl is either in a dome if its in a northern cold weather city, or its somewhere like miami, or tampa, or phoenix where there is no such weather.

Eh, I don't follow football, at all. I'm Canadian, ask me about hockey or our joke of a 'football' league

I just ran with a bunch of sports stereotypes that folks could consider strange/unusual, but are generally considered to be 'socially acceptable.'

On a curious note, why do the nerds always jump straight to sports to defend their precious geekness when it feels threatened?

Honestly? It was the first thing that came to mind because I had the Simpsons on in the background. You could say the same thing about people lining up for iPhones, camping out for The Dark Knight, etc.

There are some people who will geek it up for something special, but are generally normal, well adjusted folks otherwise.

And no, I'm not denying that there are headcases out there or that there aren't any on this forum.

[krinkled]

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[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Draegan

I hit 60 on my DK a few hours ago. Awesome class. I find it hard not to just spam abilities sometimes and stuff dies.

Magic Runes and customizing it is an awesome addon.

Issue with customizing it is, whatever I setup, it's worthless because everything dies before my first rune refresh anyway. Always do the same rotation too, the only thing that matters is my RP so I can use deathcoil when it's up. It'll be very useful once I start doing instances again though, but won't happen until 79-80.

I quit playing the beta just before they nerfed everything on the DK, yet I'm happy to see they didn't actually break the classes like they did with warlocks on vanilla wow(massive nerf during phase2, then no buff until after release, locks fucking sucked at release). I'm unsure how they managed though, cause like, prenerf I was killing everything AE in one rotation, and now I'm still killing stuff in one rotation, or close enough, yet I'm not unholy blighting for 350/s and stupid shit like that. Same with single target, but I think this is due to icy touch not sucking anymore, and deathcoil being better than I remember. Maybe they boosted disease damage, can't tell.

Anyway, hit 69 earlier, and I can say I was happier in outlands. I would see no one, and chain quests and shit, now in northrend it's full of retards everywhere, and this coupled with the fact I went from solo my DK to triboxing which means characters getting stuck in fucking walls and looting 30stupid shit on the ground, 10 of which on a small window on my 2nd computer, not very fun.

But at least I finally replaced my Giantstalker and R13 gear on my hunter. Can't believe he's been 70 for all of BC(dual boxed it with my be paladin, was my old 60main) and still was sporting lvl 60epics on almost every slot. And the worse? I've seen some northrend quest rewards that were worse than my fucking ZG/MC/R13 loot. Yay for retarded itemization, I so want a piece of mail with high stam, high haste and a bit of crit with 0AP/agi.

I think tomorrow during primetime, if questing blows, I'll go back to netherstorm/smv on my DK, buy a flying mount, and just do quests there with no competition, should be better xp/hour.

Edit: Server jumped from medium to full with wotlk release. I'm sure warhammer took a big hit, but there's a ton of people simply returning for the expansion who quit before and use the opportunity of the gear reset to catch up. In my guild it seems there's 4 returning members(out of 40), 2 of which are DKs. Will probably calm down later on though, when some people figure wow is still wow.

[Kuriin]

Originally Posted by krinkled

such terrible queues.

where are all these people coming from? ive never seen a queue on my server and now its 900+ people and 90 minute wait.

also i wonder if warhammer just lost a ton of subs? that might explain some of the people.

still its very strange

A lot of players from Warhammer probably left to try it out and I'm sure several newcomers are checking it out. The queues will most likely die down in a couple days.

[spronk]

I hit 71 on my team today, completely with questing - about 6 hours, a lot of 15 minute breaks though. I gotta say, I am totally impressed with WOTLK. The atmosphere, graphics, music are all head and shoulders above TBC. Quests are for the most part the same ol' fedex/bear-asses, but outside of WARs PQs (which have their own flaws) I haven't really seen many new impressive things in questing recently anyways. The zones are much bigger than TBC, and "feel" much better too -- the Howling Fjord northern areas reminded me a LOT of Age of Conan for some reason. I want to defect from Horde to the Viking faction, lol.

I really am enjoying the view, monsters, and graphics a lot. For example, for horde, go to Camp Winterhoof in Howling Fjord. The tauren there look very different than previous Taurens, the faces are better defined -- its actually pretty creepy looking to me. But all the monsters look much better now, especially with graphics cranked up and shadows maxxed.

On my server there are a bunch of 75/76s already, its crazy. I'm taking it nice and slow, aiming for 50-70% of a level a day for the next 2 weeks over 3-4 hours/day. Having a blast so far. Everyone in my guild who has started a DK has said its the funnest class in WoW, can't wait to roll my DK alt team in a few months either.

[Brikker]

Logged out tonight for the first time at about 45% into 73. Not too fast, but not too slow. I didn't play beta and didn't plan out anything in advance; server is full as shit, lots of competition for the most part. I'm a ~T6 equivalent geared Enhance Shaman, Alliance.

So far, it's a blast. Zones are amazing visually, I LOVE the music, and the quests are pretty fun, outside the type we're all used to (kill this shit here, etc). I've gotten one upgrade for my leveling enhance spec (nice trinket out of Borean Tundra), and a new cloak for my Resto set as well (from a Nexus dungeon quest).

No bugged quests, broken shit, stable as hell, no lag. This is all on Cenarius, btw. So far, so good! I figure I can hit 76 by Sunday night playing not-casually-but-not-super-hardcore.

Also, as of right now we have a 69 or 70 Death Knight (Afterlife from EQ is on the server, think it may be Thott's DK actually), and a 75 or 76 Gnome Warr (also Afterlife).

[Chinaman889]

I have to say aside from the queues and the downtime before wotk release, it's been very very smooth altogether.