WoW 3.0.2 Patch Notes - Page 33

Zeste · 10-17-2008, 05:48 PM

I was a frost mage, and liked it. I did all my points in frost, and then 5 in Improved Arcane missiles so it couldn't be interrupted.

Now with the ton of changes, what would some of you suggest for a frost mage who basically does casual gaming in BG's and instances, and of course leveling to 80?

Gnome Eater · 10-17-2008, 06:15 PM

The ESL tournaments are hilarious, and 2gd is an awesome commentator.

ESL TV: Esl Tv Stream - Germany - ESL TV

Chrisb3 · 10-17-2008, 06:20 PM

Just specced my warrior to prot .
Holy shit... what have they done!?

It was the most fun I have ever had in wow tanking intances as 3.0 prot. The prot paladin has died, aoe stun and thunderclap is amasing.

Makata · 10-17-2008, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PatrickStar

One drawback I find with the changes to honor earned based on "contribution".

It promotes leaving things unguarded to rack up more damage or healing. There is no incentive to guard capped nodes, bases, gys, or towers/bunkers. The game doesn't recognize this as anything worth a damn. Cap a tower and stand there till completion? Worthless. You're actually losing honor by being a team player. Guard Lumbermill when no one is attacking? Why bother? I don't understand this at all.

I figured this out in about 5 minutes which makes it all the more embarrassing for you since I'm supposed to be an idiot.

Look at the name of the column on the scoreboard. I'll wait here.

*Jeopardy theme*

Still give up:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Citten · 10-17-2008, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Just specced my warrior to prot .
Holy shit... what have they done!?

It was the most fun I have ever had in wow tanking intances as 3.0 prot. The prot paladin has died, aoe stun and thunderclap is amasing.

Yeah. I'm in fury gear spec'd prot and my survivability with shield is still crazy...if i change my gearset to prot gear too trying to figure out how much dps i'll lose since so much is AP based.

Intox · 10-17-2008, 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Just specced my warrior to prot .
Holy shit... what have they done!?

It was the most fun I have ever had in wow tanking intances as 3.0 prot. The prot paladin has died, aoe stun and thunderclap is amasing.

Its great now. Can easily jump into bgs and back to heroics. It will be what I use for leveling. I wanted to try it out in arenas, but they are such laggy pieces of shit.

I hated what bladestorm looked to be but its pretty fun too.

Genjiro · 10-17-2008, 10:08 PM

Prot could be incredible in 3s. I might play 3s with my hunter (marks/surv) with prot and a resto shm. The amount of spell protection from prot throwing around shield bashes, grp reflect, stuns out the ass on top of grounding + earth shock + silencing shot etc would be amazing. So much control with the warrior being able to charge all over the field with frost traps, intervene and protect either of us, and some nice draining, + aimed covers the hole in prot losing out on MS.

Devlin · 10-18-2008, 01:28 AM

I was initially very unhappy with the info from beta in regards to class balancing etc and allowing everyone to do multiple roles as well as the next class but playing it live has totally changed my mind.

When you play a class and suddenly you're no longer flavour of the month and stop getting invites it kinda sucks and as I literally couldn't give a fuck about the pvp game it's all good to me.

Tanked SH on my newly 70 warrior today and after the first few group pulls stopped bothering to mark for cc etc, yeah it's easier but it's as said before will still be hard for the terrible geared retards out there of which make up a huge percentage of the playerbase.

Why should people who are good players be penalized because they can't sit at home claiming benefits and raid 24/7?

Lithose · 10-18-2008, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Devlin

Why should people who are good players be penalized because they can't sit at home claiming benefits and raid 24/7?

If you are required to raid 24/7 to defeat the content released in TBC then you are fucking terrible. Everything is easily doable three days a week, you might not get server firsts, but you will kill almost all the content if you or your friends are at least semi-competent. (3 days a week, 3 hours on those nights.)

Jabberwhacky · 10-18-2008, 02:43 AM

Healed a bunch of heroics today; it's pretty sweet that my old Ele set works perfectly fine as a Resto set now. Surprisingly, the hardest was the last we ran, BF, and the easiest was the first, MrT. I don't know why, but BF kicked our fucking ass, there were so many mobs that crit for 6-7k.

I snapped these pics of the ret pals in my groups. Avaral was slightly better geared but both were primarily PVP (Ava was 4/5 Brutal). Ava was also healing a good amount, at the end I was like 78% and he was 22, don't know if the other paladin was.

Gnome Eater · 10-18-2008, 02:48 AM

I don't think anyone who watched the ESL last night can possibly come to the conclusion that ret paladins even after the nerfs are in any way balanced.

There were several games where a ret paladin would do 3x more damage than any other person while throwing out game saving bops/cleanses.

Erumaron · 10-18-2008, 02:57 AM

So my lvl 64 prot warrior is still proccing 5/5 talented Enrage when I get crit...makes this spec extra fun

Good bug alert.

Intox · 10-18-2008, 03:23 AM

Prot tree has an enrage talent also.

Erumaron · 10-18-2008, 03:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Intox

Prot tree has an enrage talent also.

Ah durrrr...was in the wall of text on the talent I see it now

Malakie Torsade · 10-18-2008, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DisgruntledOrangatang

Of course people will clear it the first week, GOOD PEOPLE.

At the dungeon panel at Blizzcon, I asked how long they thought it would be before high end raiders "beat" the expansion. Someone shouted out "2 weeks!" The panelists obviously heard him and referred to Nax and said something along the lines of "We'll be surprised if it takes that long."

I also asked if they planned around the bleeding edge guilds and if we'd see another Sunwell where only a very small portion of the playerbase would see it. The response was that they do not want to repeat that situation.

The first picture I took just for Makata... The 2nd is Ghostcrawler, so you can stop calling him "her."

10-17-2008, 05:48 PM	#481 (permalink)
Zeste  Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,810 +87 Internets	I was a frost mage, and liked it. I did all my points in frost, and then 5 in Improved Arcane missiles so it couldn't be interrupted. Now with the ton of changes, what would some of you suggest for a frost mage who basically does casual gaming in BG's and instances, and of course leveling to 80? __________________ 

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Chrisb3 Farming negs Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wigan, England Posts: 1,710 -84 Internets	Just specced my warrior to prot . Holy shit... what have they done!? It was the most fun I have ever had in wow tanking intances as 3.0 prot. The prot paladin has died, aoe stun and thunderclap is amasing. __________________ Dominara, Champion of the Frozen Wastes: EU-Sylvanas.

10-17-2008, 10:08 PM	#487 (permalink)
Genjiro We bawlin boi! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 4,411	Prot could be incredible in 3s. I might play 3s with my hunter (marks/surv) with prot and a resto shm. The amount of spell protection from prot throwing around shield bashes, grp reflect, stuns out the ass on top of grounding + earth shock + silencing shot etc would be amazing. So much control with the warrior being able to charge all over the field with frost traps, intervene and protect either of us, and some nice draining, + aimed covers the hole in prot losing out on MS. __________________ Genjiro--Legacy of Steel--EQ1 sexy monk (retired) Entreri--Guildleader of Ardent Legion--EQ2 (retired) "The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." -- H.L. Mencken

10-18-2008, 02:43 AM	#490 (permalink)
Jabberwhacky Walker told me I have AIDS Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Busan Posts: 3,408	Healed a bunch of heroics today; it's pretty sweet that my old Ele set works perfectly fine as a Resto set now. Surprisingly, the hardest was the last we ran, BF, and the easiest was the first, MrT. I don't know why, but BF kicked our fucking ass, there were so many mobs that crit for 6-7k. I snapped these pics of the ret pals in my groups. Avaral was slightly better geared but both were primarily PVP (Ava was 4/5 Brutal). Ava was also healing a good amount, at the end I was like 78% and he was 22, don't know if the other paladin was. Attached Images

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10-17-2008, 06:15 PM	#482 (permalink)
Gnome Eater Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,230 +3 Internets	The ESL tournaments are hilarious, and 2gd is an awesome commentator. ESL TV: Esl Tv Stream - Germany - ESL TV

10-18-2008, 01:28 AM	#488 (permalink)
Devlin Registered User Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 192	I was initially very unhappy with the info from beta in regards to class balancing etc and allowing everyone to do multiple roles as well as the next class but playing it live has totally changed my mind. When you play a class and suddenly you're no longer flavour of the month and stop getting invites it kinda sucks and as I literally couldn't give a fuck about the pvp game it's all good to me. Tanked SH on my newly 70 warrior today and after the first few group pulls stopped bothering to mark for cc etc, yeah it's easier but it's as said before will still be hard for the terrible geared retards out there of which make up a huge percentage of the playerbase. Why should people who are good players be penalized because they can't sit at home claiming benefits and raid 24/7?

10-18-2008, 02:48 AM	#491 (permalink)
Gnome Eater Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,230 +3 Internets	I don't think anyone who watched the ESL last night can possibly come to the conclusion that ret paladins even after the nerfs are in any way balanced. There were several games where a ret paladin would do 3x more damage than any other person while throwing out game saving bops/cleanses.

10-18-2008, 02:57 AM	#492 (permalink)
Erumaron yeap yeap Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 1,489	So my lvl 64 prot warrior is still proccing 5/5 talented Enrage when I get crit...makes this spec extra fun Good bug alert.

10-18-2008, 03:23 AM	#493 (permalink)
Intox Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 253 +7 Internets	Prot tree has an enrage talent also.