[WoW] PVP and Arena Discussion (Arena Talk HERE ONLY)

[Zerai]

It's probably going to be some mounts and non-combat pets.

[Skurd]

I heard it's trinkets and cloaks

[Zehn - Vhex]

Originally Posted by Dabamf

this is obviously a necessary move, quit whining just because you speculated wrongly

The honor reset makes sense but the token reset doesn't. With 100 of each token you might be able to get 1 item. Maybe. And most people won't because who the fuck wants to grind out 100 more eots tokens?

Forcing people to do shitty battlegrounds they don't enjoy 40+ times is fucking terrible game design.

At the very least they need to just get rid of the different kinds of tokens, make a generic 'win' token.

If suddenly nobody is doing EoTS because it's a terrible fucking battleground, so be it.

[Zerai]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

The honor reset makes sense but the token reset doesn't. With 100 of each token you might be able to get 1 item. Maybe. And most people won't because who the fuck wants to grind out 100 more eots tokens?

Forcing people to do shitty battlegrounds they don't enjoy 40+ times is fucking terrible game design.

At the very least they need to just get rid of the different kinds of tokens, make a generic 'win' token.

If suddenly nobody is doing EoTS because it's a terrible fucking battleground, so be it.

100% agree with this. It really shows how insecure they are about their own battlegrounds when they have to make tokens for each to make sure people do them. People should do them because they want to, not because of a fucking token.

Except I don't mind EoTS. But never having do to WSG again would be the greatest thing ever. I keep about 30 WSG tokens for when I need to buy something and slowly build it back up.

[Skurd]

Have we actually got some feedback about the price of the new WotLK PvP items ?
For all we know they could be bought for some new kind of mark (Wintergrasp and the two new BGs), right? or did they announce the contrary ?

[Mageling]

Had a friend just link this to me on messenger. Sorry if it's a bit sloppy.

[EDIT: Added trinkets]

Cloak of Certain Reprieve
Binds when picked up
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130 Armor
+42 Stamina
+18 Intellect
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 28 (0.71% @ L70).
Equip: Restores 8 mana per 5 sec.
Equip: Increases spell power by 33



Sergeant's Reinforced Cape
Binds when picked up
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130 Armor
+42 Stamina
+26 Intellect
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 30 (0.76% @ L70).
Equip: Increases spell power by 33.



The Gladiator's Resolution
Binds when picked up
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130 Armor
+42 Stamina
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 26 (1.18% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 20 (0.51% @ L70).
Equip: Increases attack power by 56.
Equip: Increases your armor penetration rating by 18



Volanthius Shroud
Binds when picked up
Back
130 Armor
+42 Stamina
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 19 (0.86% @ L70).
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 28 (0.71% @ L70).
Equip: Improves haste rating by 18 (1.14% @ L70).
Equip: Increases spell power by 33


Battlemaster's Resolve
Binds when picked up
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases attack power by 120.
Use: Increases maximum health by 1750 for 15 sec. Shares cooldown with other Battlemaster's trinkets. (3 Min Cooldown)



Battlemaster's Courage
Binds when picked up
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Increases spell power by 70.
Use: Increases maximum health by 1750 for 15 sec. Shares cooldown with other Battlemaster's trinkets. (3 Min Cooldown)



Battlemaster's Celerity
Binds when picked up
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves haste rating by 60 (3.8% @ L70).
Use: Increases maximum health by 1750 for 15 sec. Shares cooldown with other Battlemaster's trinkets. (3 Min Cooldown)


Battlemaster's Aggression
Binds when picked up
Trinket
Requires Level 70
Equip: Improves critical strike rating by 60 (2.72% @ L70).
Use: Increases maximum health by 1750 for 15 sec. Shares cooldown with other Battlemaster's trinkets. (3 Min Cooldown

[TheCutlery]

Originally Posted by Mageling

Had a friend just link this to me on messenger. Sorry if it's a bit sloppy.

[EDIT: Added trinkets]

They can piss off if they think that the same trinkets that anyone with 100 marks and 75k honor already has, and an equivilant cloak to the badge cloaks that they forced us all to grind because there was no PvP cloak for a fucking year are gonna make me happy that they're deleting my honor.

[Zehn - Vhex]

Least they could do is let you buy pre-honor change titles like warlord, lieutenant general, etc...

[Zerai]

Those trinkets are better than the ingame ones currently.

Like the atk one ingame..is 80. That one is 120.

[Pren]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Least they could do is let you buy pre-honor change titles like warlord, lieutenant general, etc...

Oh helllllllllllllllllll the fuck no. No goddamn amount of post-bc battleground farming even remotely compares. You can take the 8 months I spent on gear and replace it with one AV weekend but fuck you if you hand my title out.

[Zbkuk]

Yeah it's probably going to be those upgraded cloaks and battlemaster 2.0 trinkets - I remember a long ass time ago on mmo champ they datamined those suckers and I hadn't heard anything more about them until now.

[Zest]

Which is pointless because the only reason to get them is to PvP more... when there isn't a point PvPing because you don't get to keep any of your points.

[spronk]

patch 3.0: just level your alts to 70 and level inscription, cuz sure as fuck nothing else worth doing

[Gnome Eater]

Hahahah wow just wow:

We're starting to get a lot of PvP data in, and several classes are having trouble beating rogues, Frost mages, Ret paladins and death knights.

In other news, they also found out that fire burns, water is wet, and socrates is a mortal?

They had to get 'a lot of data in ' to see how retarded rogues, paladins and mages are? Fucking hell.

[Lithose]

Originally Posted by Gnome Eater

Hahahah wow just wow:



In other news, they also found out that fire burns, water is wet, and socrates is a mortal?

They had to get 'a lot of data in ' to see how retarded rogues, paladins and mages are? Fucking hell.

The thing with mages is that they are trying to pump damage into a control spec, without nerfing its control.

They want frost to be raid viable, so add more damage! That doesn't work for a tree that has the most control of any class in WoW. Frosts control needs to be shifted around to the other specs so it loses some of its monopoly on it, if they want to give it damage.

Rogues...Well, we all know some of the problems with rogues, but they seem easier to fix.

Hunters are going to be the new thing though, range instant MS? lol, on what fucking world is that balanced? I mean, seriously, teams employ strategies of rooting the warrior for the sole purpose of getting the MS debuff off, now though there is a class that can apply it at 41 yards with no cast? lol, jesus, does a dev have a toon past 1700?

Edit* I don't disagree hunters needed help..The devs should keep in mind though that an entrapment hunter is probably some of the best CC in the game in so far as arena goes and with the new ice trap, they are pretty amazing. This MS, while justifiable on its own merit, really isn't balanced when you combine it with viper+Silence+Scatter+Traps..The reason warriors don't have any CC is due to MS, and really, thats why its been semi balanced. (Thats why druids who bring CC unbalanced 2's with warriors.)