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View Poll Results: What class are you rolling at release
A Dwarf Ironbreaker 132 8.47%
A Dwarf Engineer 69 4.43%
A Dwarf Runepriest 115 7.38%
A Black Orc 81 5.20%
A Goblin Squig Herder 67 4.30%
A Goblin Shaman 123 7.89%
An Empire Witch Hunter 99 6.35%
An Empire Bright Wizard 76 4.88%
An Empire Warrior Priest 79 5.07%
A Chaos Zealot 85 5.46%
A Chaos Marauder 57 3.66%
A Chaos Magus 26 1.67%
A Chaos Chosen 113 7.25%
A High Elf Swordmaster 68 4.36%
A High Elf White Lion 35 2.25%
A High Elf Shadow Warrior 64 4.11%
A High Elf Archmage 73 4.69%
A Dark Elf Witch Elf 56 3.59%
A Dark Elf Sorcerer 79 5.07%
A Dark Elf Disciple of Khaine 61 3.92%
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:28 PM   #166 (permalink)
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Can we get back to WAR, before this ends up in the rickshaw? I'm sure that eventually this discussion will settle once and for all who is more macho, the insecure twats who maintain they play female characters because they "like to look at their asses" or the insecure twats who maintain they don't because they're so manly they could never play "manginas", but for the rest of us, it's an argument that's been old and tedious for years and your bluster and chest thumping induces nothing but eye rolling and sneers.

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Old 08-30-2008, 06:32 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Can we get back to WAR, before this ends up in the rickshaw?
Sure, expect patch 3.4 tomorrow, which should have some good class balance issues resolved.
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Old 08-30-2008, 06:48 PM   #168 (permalink)
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Wow, people actually equate their real life identity to a video game character? Its a bunch of pixels like so many others have said. Why would I care if someone played a female or male toon? It's their choice and whatever reason they have its none of my business nor do I care.

I guess people who play Orcs want to be Orcs in real life or white people who play black characters really want to be black or vice versa? Too much sofa psychoanalysis.

So if WAR had all female toons with no males offered then you wouldn't play it?

I guess all those guys out there who play Tomb Raider and games like that really want to be chicks deep in their heart or they're gay.

Backwards backwoods mentality cracks me up.

Um, back on topic:

I'm still not decided. All these polls say Destruction will be the majority and so I'll go Order, but then people keep saying the unwashed masses who don't follow message boards will go Order.

Oh and will there be West Coast Servers or are they all holed up in Virginia still?

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Old 08-30-2008, 07:48 PM   #169 (permalink)
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I think it's a case by case basis. If it's a guy who's been pretending he's a chick in game then "WHOA HES A DUDE" on vent then sure.
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This is 90% of what I'm talking, and probly a great deal to do with the stigma I've personaly placed on the guys that do this.

And for Phoenix yes if a MMO ever comes out that has nothing but female char choices I'm pretty certain I wouldn't play it. Though I think that reality will never happen due to the possibilty the game would flop massively because to many people probly share that sentiment.
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Old 08-30-2008, 08:02 PM   #170 (permalink)
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QUESTION FOR JEFF: Are the Living Cities filled with back-alleys and streets that makes you loose track of where you are --i.e, do the Capitol Cities have more space than what it looks like on the maps?

ANSWER: The Capitals are pretty damn big. There are back alleys and places that you can get turned around in. We tried to get a good balance between ease of use and this type of thing though, so you will have to check them out for yourself and see what you think.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Would you consider revealing all of the PQs for a Chapter on the map once you get to that Chapter? I hated stumbling upon a PQ after my bar was filled because it was out of the way. You guys reveal BO's, so I figure why not PQ's.

ANSWER: We have talked about this and for now the answer is no. Once you have discovered a PQ, it will reveal on the map but not before. It is not out of the question though, and I am sure we will be talking about this again in the upcoming months.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: A question I had that has only been gently touched upon is about Mythic and stopping gold sellers and hackers/exploiters. Will Mythic use the credit card numbers for players found violating the EULA in prior games like DAoC and use that banned list in WAR? You are in the position to do so with a popular MMO prior to this one and records from your Mythic Account Manager could curb know offenders from the past.

ANSWER: I am not at liberty to talk about all of the methods we are planning to help combat this, but we are definitely against this type of behavior in WAR. Mythic has always taken a strong stance against this and we have never changed our policy on it.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: I just imagine secret places like, as example, a hidden grove or cave only accessible if several environment variables are fulfilled...like a specific day/night time (in game) or race depending like the long lost grave of King Bazong the Stinker a former dwarven Hero...accessible only to dwarves ..with lots of graves to rob and plunder *dreams*

Any chance we will have something like this ?

ANSWER: Lairs are definitely the answer. There are all sorts of different lairs with very interesting access methods, including many that you have mentioned above.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Can you pretty please with sugar on top tell me if there will be a way to change our face/hair in game after the initial character creation? Or if there may be plans for it at some time in the future?

ANSWER: At this point in time, we do not have plans for allowing you to change your face or hair once you have created your character. It is not out of the questions however, and is something that I am sure we will be talking about in the future.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Are the lairs solo or grouped and do they work like public quests?

ANSWER: Most of the lairs involve fighting the monster who inhabits it (it is a “lair” after all). These monsters are generally very high level and very difficult to kill. With this in mind, it is probably a good idea to bring a trustworthy group of friends with you when you go exploring for them.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: So these "city sets" you so sneakily slid into your blog... When will you elaborate on those?

ANSWER: Tomorrow. *winks*

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Question, are there lairs in every zone, just s few, or only the two you mentioned?

ANSWER: There are lairs in almost every outdoor zone in the game.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Any chance of some sort of damp and dark playhouse in the Inevitable City that shows the banned plays of Detlef Sierck or something such as the controversial "Strange Flower" by Manfred von Diehl? Or perhaps when Altdorf falls...and it will, that there will be some grotesque mockery of performance going on at the stage? I'm imagining Zealots acting with the corpses of Imperial citizens.

ANSWER: These are interesting ideas. I will pass them on to our cities team. We do have crazy stuff in IC, but not what you specifically point out.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Any chance the Greenskins will receive their own capitol city in the future?

ANSWER: We have special plans for the Greenskin capital and I think you will all get a kick out of what we will be doing.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Cake or death?

(And in all seriousness though there isn't any, will my Goblin Squig Herder ever be able to name his Squig?)

ANSWER: Pie. And maybe…

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Is there any plans to let you have multiple looks/sets of armor you can switch on the fly out of combat? And to set up situations that trigger it?

ANSWER: This is something else that we have talked about and is one of the designs that is currently on the shelf. I am sure that we will revisit it again in the upcoming months.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Can we have a way to fully disable the UI (names, titles etc) for nice clean screenshots?

ANSWER: Shift-z takes off the UI, and you can turn off names, titles, etc from the user settings menu.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Will empire players be able to be "converted" into destruction in some way at all? I know it is a stupid question, but it would be pretty cool if they could.

ANSWER: No.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Are the Collector's Edition exclusive PvP quests Tier 1 bound? (As in you need to kill players in Tier 1 PvP zones for them, like the Spoils Of War preview on the main-website suggests.)

ANSWER: Lord. I have no idea :P I will try to get the answer to this one posted in a future grab bag on the Herald.

QUESTION FOR JEFF: Will some of the Tome of Knowledge be bound to your account. That is not bound only to your character but to all your characters?

ANSWER: Currently the Tome information is bound specifically to each character, though we have talked about certain things being unlocked at the account level. We will see what the future brings.
From his blog at PAX.

I personally havent found a liar yet, but i did see a youtube on it, the guy had to activite these pillars in a certain sequence and it made the door interactable, which inside had a name special mob, which promptly owned him .

Greenskin capital sounds intriguing.

Edit: Oops didnt realize this was the class thread. Oh well. too lazy to move it
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:23 AM   #171 (permalink)
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This is 90% of what I'm talking, and probly a great deal to do with the stigma I've personaly placed on the guys that do this.

And for Phoenix yes if a MMO ever comes out that has nothing but female char choices I'm pretty certain I wouldn't play it. Though I think that reality will never happen due to the possibilty the game would flop massively because to many people probly share that sentiment.
Indeed I'm playing a dwarf because I like to get hammered on beer and ale in real life. I mean if I rolled an elf id have to drink WINE wtf!?! Screw that shit.
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Old 08-31-2008, 10:47 AM   #172 (permalink)
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Your reading way beyond what I said my logic only applies to the guys that play female chars I don't care what your reason is. If you get a boner playing a female char thats your choice. I personaly don't care for it maybe they should do a study and see if those people have hidden gay tendancies.
What if they get a boner playing a male character ? Staring at that chiseled muscle all day ? ;p

Hell, what if they get a boner looking at YOUR male character ?!
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Old 08-31-2008, 11:15 AM   #173 (permalink)
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What if they get a boner playing a male character ? Staring at that chiseled muscle all day ? ;p

Hell, what if they get a boner looking at YOUR male character ?!
Heh, then the don't ask don't tell policy will be inforced..
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:06 PM   #174 (permalink)
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I'd say its pretty apparent which game's races look like "Simple Jack retards" and which show even a hint of menace. The images below don't even include WoW's horrifically designed Trolls; the inclusion of which would push WoW's "greenskin" aesthetic into a full-on Down Syndrome retard category.
I was negatived with the following comment:

"lets pick the worst possible pick of a wow orc, then compare a npc model to a player one. sounds good faggot"

The pictures I provided were from cursory google searches. I didn't spend much time finding a WAR orc that looked far more menacing than the quickly-found WoW orc picture.

You are more than welcome to provide your own examples of WoW orcs and WAR orcs. Ensure that the helms are toggled off, since even hunchbacked WoW orcs look decent in Onslaught, for example. Yes, this is a subjective argument, but I think most people would agree that WAR "greenskins" simply look more evil/menacing than the WoW versions.
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:09 PM   #175 (permalink)
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I'd just like to note that I will be "rolling" all Order chars since I will be playing as Destruction.
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Old 08-31-2008, 01:27 PM   #176 (permalink)
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I was negatived with the following comment:

"lets pick the worst possible pick of a wow orc, then compare a npc model to a player one. sounds good faggot"

The pictures I provided were from cursory google searches. I didn't spend much time finding a WAR orc that looked far more menacing than the quickly-found WoW orc picture.

You are more than welcome to provide your own examples of WoW orcs and WAR orcs. Ensure that the helms are toggled off, since even hunchbacked WoW orcs look decent in Onslaught, for example. Yes, this is a subjective argument, but I think most people would agree that WAR "greenskins" simply look more evil/menacing than the WoW versions.
Just look at the orc on their recruit a friend splash screen:


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Old 08-31-2008, 04:53 PM   #177 (permalink)
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Just look at the orc on their recruit a friend splash screen:

yeah... and it still looks ghey... *shrugs*
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yeah... and it still looks ghey... *shrugs*
Needs a rainbow in the background.
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Old 08-31-2008, 05:22 PM   #179 (permalink)
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I'll either stick with Ironbreaker the Ironbreaker or go with my first passion of Shadow Warrior. Really depends on how much of a nerf IB gets and if they adjust the combat flow and ranged animation sluggishness of SW.
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