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Axire · 10-07-2008, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad Jacq

I snare. She dispells it.

So resnare then? Its a 60 second cooldown, jesus cant believe you are moaning about this, fucking retarded.

Vitae · 10-07-2008, 01:21 PM

Witch Elf and Witch Hunter snare removal also grants a 10 second immunity, so you cannot resnare them until after they have gained the full distance of Flee.

It's not particularly meaningful in the long run, sure, but it's definitely fairly annoying in Phoenix Gate.

Mkopec1 · 10-07-2008, 01:26 PM

Witch elfs kick my ass. they are the only ones which I fear on the battlefield. Well them and Marauders.

I wish I had a root or stun or some shit to run away. But I dont. My only hope when a witch elf is stabbing me in the ass is to heal my ass off and run towards the nearest DPS or tank and hopefully they kill her before she kills me.

Mad Jacq · 10-07-2008, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Axire

So resnare then? Its a 60 second cooldown, jesus cant believe you are moaning about this, fucking retarded.

My snare is on a timer too, dumbass.

lost · 10-07-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkopec1

Witch elfs kick my ass. they are the only ones which I fear on the battlefield. Well them and Marauders.

I wish I had a root or stun or some shit to run away. But I dont. My only hope when a witch elf is stabbing me in the ass is to heal my ass off and run towards the nearest DPS or tank and hopefully they kill her before she kills me.

No different behind a shaman with witch hunters, sure I can AE kb them and kb myself while doing it but they still run after me lol.

Zbkuk · 10-07-2008, 02:21 PM

Can someone give me a justification for all the non-BW, non-Sorc ranged dps classes in this game that doesn't include any variation of the words "distraction," "annoyance," or "confusion"? It seems like in a vast majority of the situations out there, these classes would be better off being replaced with a BW or a sorc. About the only exception I can think of is in organized aoe groups where engineers and magus can utilize their pull ability, but again, they need BWs or sorcs with them to make the most of it. Has anyone honestly ever said "Gee I wish we had a shadow warrior/squig herder right about now?"

Duppin · 10-07-2008, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbkuk

Can someone give me a justification for all the non-BW, non-Sorc ranged dps classes in this game that doesn't include any variation of the words "distraction," "annoyance," or "confusion"? It seems like in a vast majority of the situations out there, these classes would be better off being replaced with a BW or a sorc. About the only exception I can think of is in organized aoe groups where engineers and magus can utilize their pull ability, but again, they need BWs or sorcs with them to make the most of it. Has anyone honestly ever said "Gee I wish we had a shadow warrior/squig herder right about now?"

No, and that's why my engineer is shelved for now.

Azrayne · 10-07-2008, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Zbkuk

Can someone give me a justification for all the non-BW, non-Sorc ranged dps classes in this game that doesn't include any variation of the words "distraction," "annoyance," or "confusion"? It seems like in a vast majority of the situations out there, these classes would be better off being replaced with a BW or a sorc. About the only exception I can think of is in organized aoe groups where engineers and magus can utilize their pull ability, but again, they need BWs or sorcs with them to make the most of it. Has anyone honestly ever said "Gee I wish we had a shadow warrior/squig herder right about now?"

As much as yeah they all kind of suck right now, I think we should hold off on sweeping statements about balance until people hit 40 and are settled into the game a little.

That said, if these classes are in the same situation at that point as they are now, then yeah they're going to need some loving.

Hatorade · 10-07-2008, 02:29 PM

Come to think of it I maybe see as many Magus as I do Engineers and White lions. Unpopular now but with a little help they going to be awesome.

Azrayne · 10-07-2008, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatorade

Come to think of it I maybe see as many Magus as I do Engineers and White lions. Unpopular now but with a little help they going to be awesome.

I'm told white lions are actually fairly good once they come into their own at 25 - 30 or so. Not sure how accurate that is, but that's the impression I was given by someone playing one I spoke to the other day.

Hatorade · 10-07-2008, 03:07 PM

Yeah but all the pet problems are turning people off of WL.

Pyros · 10-07-2008, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatorade

Yeah but all the pet problems are turning people off of WL.

On my WE alt, I've been fighting a few White Lions in T1, and I believe they made the pets less gay, they can often stick to me like glue, snaring the shit out of me and stuff. I think eventually WL will be awesome, and they're pretty good currently it seems.

Nija · 10-07-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mkopec1

My only hope when a witch elf is stabbing me in the ass is to heal my ass off and run towards the nearest DPS or tank and hopefully they kill her before she kills me.

You're detaunting her too, right? -50% damage for 15 seconds is pretty powerful. I've not had much trouble with Witch Elves on my Archmage in T2, but I'm always double detaunting them first and asking someone on vent to come kill them while I stand there, healing through damage.

Hatorade · 10-07-2008, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Pyros

On my WE alt, I've been fighting a few White Lions in T1, and I believe they made the pets less gay, they can often stick to me like glue, snaring the shit out of me and stuff. I think eventually WL will be awesome, and they're pretty good currently it seems.

Yeah pets are fine once they get on someone it is the random disappearing of the pet bar and the pet that annoys people.

Pizoi · 10-07-2008, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Hatorade

Yeah pets are fine once they get on someone it is the random disappearing of the pet bar and the pet that annoys people.

That was fixed yesterday, but pet responsiveness still seems slow as hell. Also, sometimes I need to redo my stance buff, because the pet will stop autofiring his abilities. The class has a ton of potential though, and at the very least they are unique.

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Mkopec1 Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit Posts: 5,212	Witch elfs kick my ass. they are the only ones which I fear on the battlefield. Well them and Marauders. I wish I had a root or stun or some shit to run away. But I dont. My only hope when a witch elf is stabbing me in the ass is to heal my ass off and run towards the nearest DPS or tank and hopefully they kill her before she kills me. __________________ When I am working on a problem I never think about beauty. I only think about how to solve the problem. But when I have finished, if the solution is not beautiful, I know it is wrong.

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Hatorade Cause it's better than water Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,099 +23 Internets	Come to think of it I maybe see as many Magus as I do Engineers and White lions. Unpopular now but with a little help they going to be awesome. __________________ www.houseforsaken.com

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Hatorade Cause it's better than water Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 7,099 +23 Internets	Yeah but all the pet problems are turning people off of WL. __________________ www.houseforsaken.com

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10-07-2008, 01:21 PM	#6377 (permalink)
Vitae Fires of Heaven WoW Officer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 283 +0 Internets	Witch Elf and Witch Hunter snare removal also grants a 10 second immunity, so you cannot resnare them until after they have gained the full distance of Flee. It's not particularly meaningful in the long run, sure, but it's definitely fairly annoying in Phoenix Gate.

10-07-2008, 02:21 PM	#6381 (permalink)
Zbkuk Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 178 -1 Internets	Can someone give me a justification for all the non-BW, non-Sorc ranged dps classes in this game that doesn't include any variation of the words "distraction," "annoyance," or "confusion"? It seems like in a vast majority of the situations out there, these classes would be better off being replaced with a BW or a sorc. About the only exception I can think of is in organized aoe groups where engineers and magus can utilize their pull ability, but again, they need BWs or sorcs with them to make the most of it. Has anyone honestly ever said "Gee I wish we had a shadow warrior/squig herder right about now?"