WAR NDA officially lifted. Post pics and info!

[Rhuobhe]

Originally Posted by Korioni

And it's not like D&D online had an installed playerbase.

I know that the Warhammer miniatures and misc. are not entirely what you were referring to, but then in reference to DAoC players, that's currently around what... 100k subs?

WAR could do well based entirely on DAoC and Warhammer fan-based subs but it's unlikely to see a large amount of subs from anywhere else. Yes, entirely because of it's Y2K grade graphics.

I know, I know. You all vehemently disagree with me and wish my soul eternal damnation etc etc and it's all an artistic choice and nobody can pay more than the $200 it would take to buy a computer that would play this game anyway(ATI 9800's are bitchin expensive), and so on and so forth. The fact of the matter is we're supposedly in a new generation of gaming possibilities and if your character's face is back to 64-bit, nobody is going to give a damn unless they really really want to.



As an aside, I didn't say the AoC kept their subs. I'm saying it'd be surprising if WAR did even that well.


Edit: I should say that I very well recognize this game as a good game and that I personally have no grief with the graphics or really anything else within the game (aside from technical issues). I am just speculating on the projected success of the game and the bull-shit the dev in the previously mentioned interview was throwing out. You'll notice my involvement in this thread was initially limited to 500k subs =! 2nd placelol.

adnd online would have had a player base if they hadn't made the setting in fucking eberron. that was really stupid of them. what the fuck were they thinking?

I hope that some day, before I die, someone makes a really good forgotten realms mmo

[NativityInBlack]

^^^

Amazon.com: Forgotten Realms Campaign Guide, 4th Edition: Bruce R. Cordell, Ed Greenwood, Chris Sims, Philip Athans: Books

Was just released perhaps will inspire some new MMO, Baldur Gate 3/NWN3 would be fine tho.

[edit] Sorry for the derail but ouch on that book reviews, wonder if it lowers the chances of getting a new game out. Will buy it anyway.

[Senen]

Originally Posted by Korioni

Hrm, I dunno. As it is, WAR's had quite a bit of bad press in the last half a year or so. That on top of it having graphics on par with PoP era EQ1 and I can't see it beating out AoC's opening month, no matter how fun the gameplay.

I like it when people come to the forums with zero idea what there talking about. The graphics are far beyond anything EQ ever was just going to assume you have some kind of visual imparement. I'd like to see the tons of negative press, if that was the case this board wouldn't have the positive vibe for the game. If thats not saying something with the sheer amount of jaded players we poses and the general standards most of us have towards wanting a good game. I think its pretty clear your just ignorant or possibly fishing for more neg internets well you defently got some.. grats maybe?

[Harkon]

Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

adnd online would have had a player base if they hadn't made the setting in fucking eberron. that was really stupid of them. what the fuck were they thinking?

I hope that some day, before I die, someone makes a really good forgotten realms mmo

Its a good thing it was in Eberron, I would have cried if they had wasted the FR or Ravenloft setting on that game.

[Mist]

The graphics are actually fine if you go into your driver settings and force 2xAA/2xAF. For some reason that overrides whatever the graphics crippling thing they have enabled on the beta client.

[DJk_zero]

Originally Posted by Lost Ranger

Yes, because only games with amazing state of the art visuals have success in this market right? Just how retarded are you? WoW had dated graphics the day it launched and we all know what a horrible fucking failure that was right?!

Gameplay and fun factor are what determine a games success. If graphics was all important to the masses then WoW would of been a barren wasteland the day AoC launched. Also, lets not over do it and pretend like WAR is some 1990s graphic design. Its graphics are at the very least comparable to WoWs, if not better which I believe they are.

If you are one of those special ed people who puts graphics on the top of their list then I am going assume you don't play MMOs right? Any MMO that has been released with "great graphics" has pretty much bombed. Wait.. your not one of Vanguards 5 players are you?

It's not so much how much graphical detail wow doesn't have, it's more of how well that graphical style comes across, and how they can leverage it against a lower poly count then other games and come out looking better overall.

AoC did look good, provided you had the hardware, but the major issues with that level of performance were mostly hidden through game design until the very end. Limited population zone cloning prevented most of the mob gathering that would stress their engine, but we see how quickly that fell apart when with less then 100 total PC's in the same theatre (battle keeps) things ground to a halt.

[Gecko]

Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

adnd online would have had a player base if they hadn't made the setting in fucking eberron. that was really stupid of them. what the fuck were they thinking?

I hope that some day, before I die, someone makes a really good forgotten realms mmo

I'd guess it was a license issue.

I didn't care for the game when I beta tested it, so I don't think it would've mattered to me.

I'd love to see Bioware pony up and get a Forgotten Realms license and build an indepth, immersive MMO there.

[Bodhidharma]

I don't suppose someone could tell me how to install the Test Server client? I was never able to make a beta forum account on the official forums.

[bubblegumbo]

Aiming for that elusive -100 Korioni?

[NativityInBlack]

Bodhidharma, if you are an old time beta tester looking for the closed beta server I dunno (other folks can help) if you are waiting for the open beta just download the torrent (drop a line if you need help on that) and run the warpatch.exe, there's no actual installation, when the patch server is up (it is right now just tested) it patches the same folder where you downloaded the torrent (you can also move it around before patching/"installing") and use the info you registered on:

https://accounts.eamythic.com/

Good luck.

[Bodhidharma]

Actually I'm kind of a new "old" beta tester. At some point after I bought my Collector's Edition and added that key to my account, I noticed that I had been accepted into the Closed Beta testing. I thought that was kind of odd, since I'd never received an e-mail saying that I'd been accepted. So at that time I tried to sign up for the Closed Beta forums... however the special Closed Beta forum registration page wouldn't work. I later read that they'd hit their user cap for the Closed Beta forums, and wouldn't be expanding it because there was no reason to do so now, so I didn't worry about it at the time. Then on 8/20, I got an e-mail saying I'd been invited to the Elder Program, and had access to the Test Servers. All I had to do, was read the installation instructions on the Closed Beta forums... to which of course I didn't have access.

So long story short, my account is flagged for the Elder Test Program, but I'm unable to get the instructions to switch my beta client to the new location.

[Mogley]

Your account wouldn't work. You had to do some things before a specific day to set up your account under the new system, and since you didn't have access to the boards, you never had a chance to do that.

Servers are down anyway.

[gnomad]

Originally Posted by Rhuobhe

I hope that some day, before I die, someone makes a really good forgotten realms mmo

Don't hold your breath. D&D is truly unbalanced and therefore would never lend itself to a MMORPG as written.

By the time the spreadsheet twidlers called LOL "devs" got done it would look nothing like Forgotten Realms. It would just be another PC, shades of grey, mediocre pos with everyone equal no matter class, race, or sex.

[Ryanz]

I know everyone would love to be spending the long weekend getting their WAR on. Our production team is putting the LABOR into Labor Day and working hard on our latest patch. We will keep updating here so everyone will have one spot to check regarding when the test servers will be up and running.

Saturday 11:37 AM EDT: Servers will not be up today. We will update this early Sunday morning.

from the Community Relations Director Administrator of the forums. Just an fyi.

[Necrolyte]

Originally Posted by Korioni

And it's not like D&D online had an installed playerbase.

I know that the Warhammer miniatures and misc. are not entirely what you were referring to, but then in reference to DAoC players, that's currently around what... 100k subs?

WAR could do well based entirely on DAoC and Warhammer fan-based subs but it's unlikely to see a large amount of subs from anywhere else. Yes, entirely because of it's Y2K grade graphics.

I know, I know. You all vehemently disagree with me and wish my soul eternal damnation etc etc and it's all an artistic choice and nobody can pay more than the $200 it would take to buy a computer that would play this game anyway(ATI 9800's are bitchin expensive), and so on and so forth. The fact of the matter is we're supposedly in a new generation of gaming possibilities and if your character's face is back to 64-bit, nobody is going to give a damn unless they really really want to.

As an aside, I didn't say the AoC kept their subs. I'm saying it'd be surprising if WAR did even that well.

Edit: I should say that I very well recognize this game as a good game and that I personally have no grief with the graphics or really anything else within the game (aside from technical issues). I am just speculating on the projected success of the game and the bull-shit the dev in the previously mentioned interview was throwing out. You'll notice my involvement in this thread was initially limited to 500k subs =! 2nd placelol.

Thank goodness WoW had bleeding edge graphics. We all know that was the key reason for WoW's success.