WAR NDA officially lifted. Post pics and info!

[Kharza-kzad]

Originally Posted by Burning_Samurai

Me and the other BW were always last while the tank and WP were in the top three.

I wouldn't be shocked to learn that I rolled over an int for damage in some keep defense as a bright wizard. After destroying a few rams and killing everyone on it multiple times

[Lleauaric~EW]

ach!

Anyone know what is causing this and how to fix it???

http://members.cox.net/scoffone/glitch.jpg

the game only shows up in the top left hand corner... cant figure out what the problem is.

[Mippo]

They broke something. A lot of people, myself included, are getting password is incorrect error on the server select screen.

I think the login server is broken right now.

EDIT: Now instead of saying the password is incorrect, it says the login server is temporarily unavailable. So basically, don't log out if you are in game right now or you won't be able to get back in. Who knows how long until they fix this.

[Talenvor]

Originally Posted by Mippo

They broke something. A lot of people, myself included, are getting password is incorrect error on the server select screen.

I think the login server is broken right now.

EDIT: Now instead of saying the password is incorrect, it says the login server is temporarily unavailable. So basically, don't log out if you are in game right now or you won't be able to get back in. Who knows how long until they fix this.

I'm getting the incorrect password error too when I get to the character select screen and it makes me reselect my server.

[gnomad]

Just came back from a friends house and watched them login (so to speak).

Took almost 10 minutes to load after the character select then almost immediate CTD.

Good job Mythic, break the game around the time the first free month runs out. What a wonderful way to keep people playing.

Gawd this industry is full of morons......

[daishinzo]

Just to be the anti negativity I've been loggin in and out all night over the past 4-5 hours with no problems.

Seems like destro on my server must be experiencing the problem though since que's in all tiers are taking forever =[

[Rhym]

Originally Posted by Narale

Archmages fall somewhere in between the roll of Runepriests and Warrior Priests. I generally don't feel a lot of synergy with other healing classes, especially if there is both a WP and RP working together. We have to sort of play in both fields, keeping our HOTs up and then using Funnel Essence and Boon and our Morale to keep players out of near death situations. There are plenty of options at our disposal for healing in different ways, but it remains that a RP is going to have quicker healing abilities and a WP is going to be better at group healing (i'm speaking generally, we're still effective healers).

The problem with the AM is that our mechanic doesn't work. We were advertised as a class that has to balance damage and healing, with the idea being that we gain healing power from damaging people and vice versa. In reality, using damage spells only slightly increases spell effectiveness and cast time, which is helpful, but you really don't play to it. 90% of the time you need to be healing, and damage spells just sap your AP. I'm not saying the class is completely ineffective, I can usually top the charts, the problem is that the class doesn't seem designed into its full scope. We have a lot of great and interesting healing options, but our dmg generally sucks and our damage spells aren't very interesting. Compared to our mirror the Shaman we look fucking stupid though. Comparing some spells makes you weep for the Archmage. I'm not QQing for Archmages or anything. We could use a little buff to our dmg but that is about it. What I would like is a mechanic that increases fluidity, which is obviously the goal just by looking at out spells.

Most people probably don't play this class because . . .

A: Fluidity. The entire class has a kind of "Eh?" feeling too it. It feels half brilliant, half mucked together.
B: Players probably wont come into their own until the teens, which means plenty will reroll.
C: Elves. For some reason Order hates Elves more than Destro.
D: For those rerolling, if they want a healer they go RP. RPs have the reputation as the healers for Order and so many rerolled guildies go that way. If they want something different in healing they go WP.

Hmmmm, I agree on some points. But I must say I love the mechanic. I'm usually our solo healer or 1 of 2 in groups ranging 3-6 and I still am casting plenty of damage spells to get a big heal at instant or very quick cast time. You just need to chain a few damage/debuffs together. Funnel essence is amazing. Absolutely, amazing. Class really takes off once you get it. Now you can actually save people much better than shielding and hoping your morale is up. Our tactics are quite gross. Go the crit tactic build with heals being 50% less AP for 10 seconds when you crit and it is very nice.

Not saying it outperforms RP, but I think it is a far more dynamic and interesting class. You have more to juggle and play with. The added depth of having a ton of very useful debuffs alone makes the class great for me. It is squishier than RP sadly b/c of no armor buffs, but the utility and entertainment make it fun.

[Torrid]

Just canceled. Tor Anroc made me quit this game. That and the ridiculousness of Bright Wizards, but mostly Tor Anroc.

[Groover]

Originally Posted by Rhym

... Go the crit tactic build with heals being 50% less AP for 10 seconds when you crit and it is very nice fun.

From what I've been told, that tactic (wild healing?) isn't working at all at the moment.. the buff appears, but doesn't do anything. The one that grants AP on crit supposedly is also bugged - doesn't give the correct amount. Also the heal+hot 35%/15% tactic only applies to the initial heal - not the hot. Hope I didn't ruin your day...

... if you want to have some fun and are rr50+ yet, grab some of the bugged t3 renoun tree talents for a nifty 70% magic crit

[CylusSoulreaver]

Mod for some of you bastages that wanted that Adalyn's unit frames. Still a bunch of shit to deal with, particulary customization and buffs, but whatever. Would hope that it'd shut people but it'll probably only make people expect more :P

PsiStatus - Addons - Curse

[Narale]

Originally Posted by Rhym

Hmmmm, I agree on some points. But I must say I love the mechanic. I'm usually our solo healer or 1 of 2 in groups ranging 3-6 and I still am casting plenty of damage spells to get a big heal at instant or very quick cast time. You just need to chain a few damage/debuffs together. Funnel essence is amazing. Absolutely, amazing. Class really takes off once you get it. Now you can actually save people much better than shielding and hoping your morale is up. Our tactics are quite gross. Go the crit tactic build with heals being 50% less AP for 10 seconds when you crit and it is very nice.

Not saying it outperforms RP, but I think it is a far more dynamic and interesting class. You have more to juggle and play with. The added depth of having a ton of very useful debuffs alone makes the class great for me. It is squishier than RP sadly b/c of no armor buffs, but the utility and entertainment make it fun.

No it definitely is a much more interesting class. Our healing spells are great and interesting, and when I'm playing my best healing flows very well. Funnel essence is a wonderful spell, its so essential it should be a part of the core path. My beef with the mechanic is not that it doesn't work . . . it does its job. It's just relatively meaningless. You're going to be a better healer if you avoid trying to balance in your DPS. Also, our dmg spells are silly. They take entirely to long to play out. It's alright with PvE, but only on bosses, but in RvR why waste my time puting a 400 dot that plays out over 15 seconds on a character that is going to die in 4? It's pointless to put your dots on any class besides a tank, and the sum dmg is still going extremely sub par. You're more effective not wasting the AP and keeping someone elses health up.

The AM is half great. The healing half is fun and wonderful at times. Our dmg is is 80% silliness. We have two OK dmg spells. The mechanic doesn't supply enough incentive to utilize it beyond increasing spell casting for rezzes. The mechanic also doesn't hinder you for not using it right. It's just a little fluffy thing on the side. These are awkward issues that I'm not sure are going to get touched on for a long while either, sadly.

/derail off

[Stosh]

Like most, I'm not a fan of the VN boards, but since a lot of WAR devs post there, in particular Mark Jacobs, I do scan the threads he replies to and comments on.

While I'm hesitant to link a post from the VN boards, I think this thread warrants it as some bad blood between WoW/WAR devs is coming out.

VN Boards - Blizzard: Warhammer players already returning to Warcraft

Read the first post, then skip past the ass-kissing and drivel to the 7th page where Mark starts and continues to respond.

[Kharza-kzad]

Originally Posted by Torrid

Just canceled. Tor Anroc made me quit this game. That and the ridiculousness of Bright Wizards, but mostly Tor Anroc.

I got very frustrated the first few levels. As conflag spec, and with no rain of fire, I had to play in close to do decent damage, which often found me in the lava.

Also the level gap in tier3 seems to make much more of a difference than in 2.

Everything smoothed out when I hit 25, and in another level I get a knockback myself so I can participate in the cheese.

[slitz]

Originally Posted by Stosh

Like most, I'm not a fan of the VN boards, but since a lot of WAR devs post there, in particular Mark Jacobs, I do scan the threads he replies to and comments on.

While I'm hesitant to link a post from the VN boards, I think this thread warrants it as some bad blood between WoW/WAR devs is coming out.

VN Boards - Blizzard: Warhammer players already returning to Warcraft

Read the first post, then skip past the ass-kissing and drivel to the 7th page where Mark starts and continues to respond.

This is the drawback of having "passionate" developers and gamers living their dream. They are still kids and they know shit about business and social interaction.
Kaplan, Sam and Jacobs, you're all a bunch of whiny fucking kids. Stop it and let the adults handle it.

Not sure I can think of anything more pathetic than game developers sitting and trash talking each other.

[Lost Ranger]

Originally Posted by slitz

Not sure I can think of anything more pathetic than game developers sitting and trash talking each other.

Not to sound all school yard here but Kaplan/Sams started it! In all seriousness though I do agree with Jacobs. Kaplan/Sams are being fucking douche bags and its just not professional. Another MMO showing signs of being successful should not be Blizzards queue to start talking shit.

Makes them look like the fucking B-Net tards that worship them.