WAR NDA officially lifted. Post pics and info!

[PerritoBites]

Oh, btw... I love how taunt works in PVP I dunno why they never got it to work in WoW...

Also, IMO the best scenario is the Dwarf/greenskin scenario because you can sneak behind the flags and cap them if there is no one guarding them... so there is some strategy involved.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Jubee

I sense some big nerfs coming to my Shadow Warrior. I don't put out nearly as much damage as a well played Bright Wizard but at level 10 I just got a 10 second AE root on a 20 second cooldown. I got so many kills in Khaine's Embrace just by snaring/rooting people as the flags were about to blow. It doesn't count towards my kill count but it's a good feeling knowing you just killed 3 people at the same time.

Every ranged DPS get this root, the balance of shadowwarriors various utility is, as you pointed out, that they don't do as much damage as bright wizards, by a rather large margin. They're more self sustainable though, when you're in those scenarios where there's no fucking healer.

[Axire]

Fun times, took nearly a minute to take down an equal level black orc that was afk on my Witch hunter. (Rank 16)

So much for a dps class!

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Axire

Fun times, took nearly a minute to take down an equal level black orc that was afk on my Witch hunter. (Rank 16)

So much for a dps class!

Do that to a caster or zealot and they might live 15 secs.

[Gilgamel]

Originally Posted by Axire

Fun times, took nearly a minute to take down an equal level black orc that was afk on my Witch hunter. (Rank 16)

So much for a dps class!

You're doing it wrong. You get like a 600 damage attack you can do every 10 seconds, there's no way it should take that long. I spend half my time in game oath friend/guarding a guildmate who is a witch hunter and if he gets behind a tank it lasts about 12-15 seconds, max. He consistently leads all scenarios by a 2 to 1 margin on damage unless some bright wizard goes AE happy.

[Spawn]

Originally Posted by Draegan

Good times yesterday. I had to take a half day off work to build my new PC and install everything. But the game runs beautifully and looks great too especially on two 4850's in crossfire.

Wait till Crossfire and AA is actually enabled in game, then you'll notice a difference. Try CoD4 or Crysis with your new setup, if you played it before I guarantee it will look better.

**Note: Unless it has changed in the very very recent .exe updates, Forcing AA on ATI cards didn't work. Some got it work by disabling specular lighting. Also Crossfire / SLI is not enabled.

[Pyros]

Key is getting behind shield tanks, else you do shit for damage. Behind and usage of dots/armor ignoring attacks will drop tanks fast. There's also quite a few classes which can destroy armor. My IB goes around doing -75% armor on everything in sight, with a melee assist it drops insanely fast.
Shield tanks are excelent to outlast people in 1vs1, in group fights you have to be wary of what you're doing cause it's easy to die to a massive assist with various debuffs(armor %, flat armor debuff, parry reduction, disrupt reduction, healing reduction and so on)

[Tallyn]

Originally Posted by Spawn

**Note: Unless it has changed in the very very recent .exe updates, Forcing AA on ATI cards didn't work. Some got it work by disabling specular lighting. Also Crossfire / SLI is not enabled.

I can get it to work on my HD 2900 Pro by forcing AA and disabling AF and "adaptive AA", whatever that is. It looks better, but I'm pretty sure it causes some subtle glitches with textures (transparency in inappropriate places, etc.)

[Tallyn]

Sigh... WAR isn't even fully released yet and I'm already getting in-game solicitations for powerlevelling services.

[Auryan]

Originally Posted by PerritoBites

Oh, btw... I love how taunt works in PVP I dunno why they never got it to work in WoW...

iirc Mythic's DAoC stance on taunts in pvp was that changing targets of the other player would be to intrusive in there gaming experience. Bitter DAoC player in this reply.

is this a WotLK competitor still, or another AoC?

edit:

The screenshots do look really great, the art team did fantastic work from what i've seen.

[Axire]

Originally Posted by Gilgamel

You're doing it wrong. You get like a 600 damage attack you can do every 10 seconds, there's no way it should take that long. I spend half my time in game oath friend/guarding a guildmate who is a witch hunter and if he gets behind a tank it lasts about 12-15 seconds, max. He consistently leads all scenarios by a 2 to 1 margin on damage unless some bright wizard goes AE happy.

I take it you mean Burn Hertic or Sever Nerve? Both are mitigated by armor, one requires 5 aquisitions and the other is a morale move.

Neither do 600 damage after mitigation.

[Bizanich]

I know it has been said earlier, but I'd like to say the Tome is awesome. As a lore whore, I have to resist the urge to stop and read every time I get a new unlock, especially in PvP....luckily, sometimes the unlocks involve dying and that gives me a chance to read.

I actually abandoned chasing a Zealot and bumrushed and killed a Magus I saw last night just to get the Tome unlock as I had yet to see a Magus in all the scenarios I had played.

I see a mob I haven't killed yet and will go out of my way to get the unlock for it, or plan to come back and get it (like the Chaos Troll above the train PQ in the dwarven areas that's a Hero).

It's a great addition to the game.

Now....WTB a guide detailing how to get the benefits from the unlocks....

[NativityInBlack]

Taunt does not change your target, it gives you a +dmg debuff if you ignore the warrior.

It blows AoC out of water, Funcom did a decent 1-50 game and released it, it's (was) scary how you just had no content for some levels, also the replayability is dreadfull (single starting zone to level up, almost same quests).

WoTLK will top WAR, but once we finish WoTLK (2 months?) WAR will be the place to hang, I got (most) of my T6 raid set and I'm in no hurry to return to WoW.

Feel that WAR will be a strong #2 and will be a major player, it's a WoW/Daoc/Guildwars mix done right imho, and may push Blizzard to release more content. Competition is here.

[Xenrauk]

Originally Posted by Bizanich

I know it has been said earlier, but I'd like to say the Tome is awesome. As a lore whore, I have to resist the urge to stop and read every time I get a new unlock, especially in PvP....luckily, sometimes the unlocks involve dying and that gives me a chance to read.

I actually abandoned chasing a Zealot and bumrushed and killed a Magus I saw last night just to get the Tome unlock as I had yet to see a Magus in all the scenarios I had played.

I see a mob I haven't killed yet and will go out of my way to get the unlock for it, or plan to come back and get it (like the Chaos Troll above the train PQ in the dwarven areas that's a Hero).

It's a great addition to the game.

Now....WTB a guide detailing how to get the benefits from the unlocks....

Well unlocks under bestiary can earn you a free cloak.

For example there's a named dryad you can kill in Ostland which unlocks dryads in the tome under plant bestiary, since it's the only thing under plants you can go off to the main city and get the cloak from the librarians there, they also sell pocket items, tome tactics and trophies in the library. Check the link below for more details.

Tome Unlock - Shawl of Spring Cloak - Warhammer Forums

[Vorph]

Originally Posted by Bizanich

Now....WTB a guide detailing how to get the benefits from the unlocks....

Yeah, I'd definitely like to hear about some more things along the lines of the Shawl of Spring unlock (which is really cool looking, but it's too bad it has no stats at all).