[WoW] WotLK - Beta Patch Notes

[James]

Pretty sure even EJ would make collective jerkoff motions about a twenty page derail over one stat point.

[Asmadai]

Originally Posted by James

Pretty sure even EJ would make collective jerkoff motions about a twenty page derail over one stat point.

But it's a chance to flame someone, James! People on these boards fucking LOVE opportunities like that. Who can resist?!

[Scorp]

Oh lawd, he's missing out on 7 whole damage points. SEVEN! Seven? Yes! 7 points, holy fuck me.

[Asmadai]

Wow, I really didn't think the reason of our pointing out to that idiot that he's clueless on gemming would go over so many people's heads.

Just forget we had this discussion and go back to whatever it was you were doing, which was probably bitching about (insert class of the week here) and their lack of balance.

[Zest]

Except he's not an idiot. He's just a cheapskate.

[Chrisb3]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Assuming 1 dmg = 1 haste at 1400dmg (Which I have raid buffed).
Gloves/Legs. 12d v 7d6h. My geming gives +2 dmg.
Head. 36d v 29d 5h 5s. My geming gives -2 dmg, +5 spirit.
Shoulders. 24d v 18d 5h 5s. My geming gives -1 dmg, +5 spirit.
Chest. 36d v 23d 10h 5s. My gemming gives -3dmg, +5spirit.
Other slots have pure red gems so I ignored them.
15 spirit will give 1.5 Damage, with Kings and combat Spirit Tap that will be around 2 Damage.

So shit I prepared my gear for the next patch ahead of time to save money, and have traded 1 Damage for a little regen. I think I'll go reroll...
I dont care. Damage vs Haste is upto your personal preference and I went for the stat that scales with how much Damage you have. I very often go well over 1400 because of buffs, so overall the haste is better.

[Asmadai]

Originally Posted by Zest

Except he's not an idiot. He's just a cheapskate.

If you are a Jewelcrafter, and you just so happen to be a DPS Class trying to gem up their DPS Gear, and you have a raw Epic Shadowsong Amethyst in your inventory, and instead of cutting it into what you should, a +6 Spell Damage and +7 Stamina, you cut it into a +11 Healing, +5 Spell Damage and +5 Spirit gem, you aren't being a cheapskate; especially if you do it twice.

That is called being an idiot.

Now this derail is becoming absurd.

[Chrisb3]

Originally Posted by Asmadai

If you are a Jewelcrafter, and you just so happen to be a DPS Class trying to gem up their DPS Gear, and you have a raw Epic Shadowsong Amethyst in your inventory, and instead of cutting it into what you should, a +6 Spell Damage and +7 Stamina, you cut it into a +11 Healing, +5 Spell Damage and +5 Spirit gem, you aren't being a cheapskate; especially if you do it twice.

That is called being a moron.

Now this derail is becoming absurd.

Soon to be three. My guild gives me free gems and those were turned into gems I'll be using next week, anything from badges or gold is going to my alt. Not spending a night or two in kara or farming 300g to minmax a week or so of raiding. I don't even bother with food buffs anymore and slack on flasks for non progressions raids, so 4.5 dmg isn't going to bother me thanks.

[mek]

Yeah, you guys are not aware of 3.0 changes, those will be optimal DPS gems on patch day.

[Lusiphur]

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Soon to be three. My guild gives me free gems and those were turned into gems I'll be using next week, anything from badges or gold is going to my alt. Not spending a night or two in kara or farming 300g to minmax a week or so of raiding. I don't even bother with food buffs anymore and slack on flasks for non progressions raids, so 4.5 dmg isn't going to bother me thanks.

Wat ?

You admit to fucking over your guild ? As a SPriest and guild leader of an Illidan killing guild (UK as well no less) I can assure you if you were in my guild you would be booted from the raid in no time flat.

You still buff up for farm stuff dipshit so you can clear it faster. No one wants to spend longer than they have to clearing farm shit.

Marks of Illidari are 11g on my AH. Stack of +dam food is like 20g. How hard can this shit be ?

[Goofy]

Originally Posted by Scorp

Oh lawd, he's missing out on 7 whole damage points. SEVEN! Seven? Yes! 7 points, holy fuck me.

7? You mean its not OVER NINE THOUSAND?

[Laek]

Has anyone played around with a disc/holy spec yet? I haven't played in awhile but I'm looking to pull my lvl66 priest out and go for a disc/spirit/smite type of spec for soloing and PUGs. With all the talents that improve both healing and damage at the same time but does it still put you way below shadow form in terms of dmg? I've been a raiding holy priest before and hated how much farming sucked. I felt the same about shadow spec then when running TBC 5 mans early on as the healer.

[Ninen]

Originally Posted by Chrisb3

Soon to be three. My guild gives me free gems and those were turned into gems I'll be using next week, anything from badges or gold is going to my alt. Not spending a night or two in kara or farming 300g to minmax a week or so of raiding. I don't even bother with food buffs anymore and slack on flasks for non progressions raids, so 4.5 dmg isn't going to bother me thanks.

And so his path towards Makata level uselessness begins.

[Zehn - Vhex]

And much like Makata you jackasses just keep responding for 30+ posts. Nobody gives a fuck, shut up, move on.

Originally Posted by Laek

Has anyone played around with a disc/holy spec yet? I haven't played in awhile but I'm looking to pull my lvl66 priest out and go for a disc/spirit/smite type of spec for soloing and PUGs. With all the talents that improve both healing and damage at the same time but does it still put you way below shadow form in terms of dmg? I've been a raiding holy priest before and hated how much farming sucked. I felt the same about shadow spec then when running TBC 5 mans early on as the healer.

What many priests (myself included) did was the shadow/disc/holy hybrid that took advantage of the spirit -> dmg conversions. Something close to this: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Depending on gear this could give you a 100~200 +dmg boost. Between that and meditation + spirit tap giving you roughly 80% mana regen even when casting.

However, it falls apart because there are just too many filler talents you have to take that don't boost damage output and no crit damage modifiers hurts as well. Plus in a raid environment, you're not getting the killshot every 15 seconds you need to maintain a build like it. I like it more in a non-raid environment because shadow just took too long to ramp up to appreciable damage (though the changes to shadow weaving may help). A spell that takes 24 seconds to run it's full course is useless on mobs most people can kill in 2~5 seconds.

So while it's relatively fun while leveling where everything dies in 2~3 hits, it doesn't see much use anymore because you have to be 60 before you can even really start to take advantage of it and by that point you've fallen asleep on your wand/mindflay macro that you wake up 2 days later and you're level 70 and you don't know how you got there and why the fuck is there a guy sleeping on my couch oh fuck oh god.

[Chrisb3]

Originally Posted by Lusiphur

Wat ?

You admit to fucking over your guild ? As a SPriest and guild leader of an Illidan killing guild (UK as well no less) I can assure you if you were in my guild you would be booted from the raid in no time flat.

You still buff up for farm stuff dipshit so you can clear it faster. No one wants to spend longer than they have to clearing farm shit.

Marks of Illidari are 11g on my AH. Stack of +dam food is like 20g. How hard can this shit be ?

Damn a 50g consumable fee would be awesome.

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

What many priests (myself included) did was the shadow/disc/holy hybrid that took advantage of the spirit -> dmg conversions. Something close to this: Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

This is how I leveled from 60-70. It is a pretty fun spec. Divine Spirit has been nerfed but Spirit Tap buffed since, so should still be pretty nice. I suggest that build to any Holy Priest for leveling.