[WoW] WotLK - Beta Patch Notes - Page 337

Hardcore Cracka · 09-30-2008, 07:28 PM

Wow, they pretty much want paladins to just be tanks. Too bad it took them 4 years to grow the balls to do it. Someone remind me what the holy tree is for, again?

madmaan · 09-30-2008, 07:29 PM

My paly didn't want that burst healing anyway. He would just run out of mana that much faster pure holy spec. Judgement of the wise is officially nerfed, no longer good for healing either.

Well at least healing will be in higher demand, since doing it will be like cutting yourself even more.

Zhaun's_Shade · 09-30-2008, 07:43 PM

I guess I stopped enjoying healing on my paladin a long time back and gave up on the character since my guild had lots of tanks and Ret sucked.

3.0 Patch has totally reinvigorated my playing my Paladin, albeit as Ret. I guess I'm having fun and not going to worry about the rest. Maybe I'm getting old but the uglyness competetive raiding brings out in people and the fun that uglyness sucks out of the game isn't worth it.

Guess my point is: Wheeee! Most fun I've had in WoW for a while

BurnemWizfyre · 09-30-2008, 07:50 PM

Wotlk shall be known as the great healing depression.

Erumaron · 09-30-2008, 07:56 PM

I'm contemplating shelving my Priest for this one. Disc is a little interesting but healers as a whole definatly drew the short straw.

Scorp · 09-30-2008, 07:59 PM

Shamans got nerfed again too. Nerfing the down classes FTL

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Atleast my Shadowknight will be fun. I mean Deathknight, sorry.

Sharmai · 09-30-2008, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Zhaun's_Shade

I guess I stopped enjoying healing on my paladin a long time back and gave up on the character since my guild had lots of tanks and Ret sucked.

3.0 Patch has totally reinvigorated my playing my Paladin, albeit as Ret. I guess I'm having fun and not going to worry about the rest. Maybe I'm getting old but the uglyness competetive raiding brings out in people and the fun that uglyness sucks out of the game isn't worth it.

Guess my point is: Wheeee! Most fun I've had in WoW for a while

Same here. I was dead set on a shaman or druid till I played my ret on PTR. Good God was that fun. Ret on Live as it is now sucks beyond balls as compared to my other classes to play but ret on PTR was a blast.

I hope to god its a viable class in the end game because if it is, its what I will be playing. I can't remember the last time I had so much fun. Even after the recent nerfs its still a blast to log on to PTR and play him

meStevo · 09-30-2008, 09:47 PM

So is it going to take another expansion to get in-game guild recognition/leveling into the most popular MMO?

The way EQ2 does it makes me want to play that game, the way Warhammer does it makes me wish I wasn't in some random guild that invited me one day and had the time to help a less useless group of people progress.

I don't know, just one more carrot, and I've always had fun helping others as much as I help myself... I love the idea of gaining levels as a guild, with whatever rewards as a result.

To go along with that, why doesnt WoW announce to your guild when you level, or log it in the guild accomplishments, etc. Higher level guilds in the game could get a server-wide broadcast of their new level once past a certain threshold.

I dont know, just dont see why this kind of stuff isn't already there.

MinionOfCthulhu · 09-30-2008, 10:53 PM

Varimathras got a cool new skin. Fear those demonic mutton chops, man.

Murr · 09-30-2008, 11:05 PM

Combat rogues got some positive changes! yay!

Makata · 09-30-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Murr

Combat rogues got some positive changes! yay!

I damn near wet myself when I saw the Aggression and Blade Twisting changes. I was planning on trying out a blade twisting/shadowstep for a certain activity type that cannot be mentioned for fear of a giant collective of panties bunching up, and was looking forward to 8 second dazes so am saddened to see it reduced to 4, but a 1.26x modifier on sinister midway through combat should put it firmly ahead of hemo, plus SS glyph is, as zehn likes to say, "fucking tits." Full combat (pve) gets a 1.39x modifier on sinister (plus a couple smaller global scalers) which is just crazy.

Gnome Eater · 10-01-2008, 12:37 AM

Holy paladins with the insta HL were insane, pity they get a rough PvE nerf because of PvP.

They finally realized arena would be retarded with 3.0 changes so they just shut it down. I guess every single gladiator won't be a ret paladin at least.

BurnemWizfyre · 10-01-2008, 12:48 AM

MMO-Champion BlueTracker - I don't even play a holy pally, but wtf?

That dev needs to be fucking fired or told to stfu when it comes to healer class, she wants all the healers lumped into one forum so we can fight over scraps i suppose. She claims every healer feels as though they are the worst healers in the game, its because she has failed equally with every fucking healer in the game. Fuck that bitch, with a baseball bat, stupid cunt.

Gnome Eater · 10-01-2008, 12:58 AM

She's completely right though.

Balance versus mobs it is easy. It is relative balance between classes in the same role that is very tricky.

If all healers suck, all it will mean is that they will make raid damage slightly less insane. When every fight in Sunwell required you to bring 3 resto shamans for chain heal spam or you'd get raped by AoE damage, then they realized they went a bit too far.

BurnemWizfyre · 10-01-2008, 01:01 AM

If all healers suck, it means the vast majority stop healing.

09-30-2008, 07:28 PM	#5041 (permalink)
Hardcore Cracka Majestik Moose Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,614	Wow, they pretty much want paladins to just be tanks. Too bad it took them 4 years to grow the balls to do it. Someone remind me what the holy tree is for, again? __________________

09-30-2008, 07:43 PM	#5043 (permalink)
Zhaun's_Shade Death Panel Supporter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 3,129 -8 Internets	I guess I stopped enjoying healing on my paladin a long time back and gave up on the character since my guild had lots of tanks and Ret sucked. 3.0 Patch has totally reinvigorated my playing my Paladin, albeit as Ret. I guess I'm having fun and not going to worry about the rest. Maybe I'm getting old but the uglyness competetive raiding brings out in people and the fun that uglyness sucks out of the game isn't worth it. Guess my point is: Wheeee! Most fun I've had in WoW for a while Last edited by Zhaun's_Shade; 09-30-2008 at 07:45 PM..

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MinionOfCthulhu Registered User Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 394 +2 Internets	Varimathras got a cool new skin. Fear those demonic mutton chops, man. __________________ Finally! Now is the time where my true might shines, like many angry sunbeams of rage!

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09-30-2008, 07:29 PM	#5042 (permalink)
madmaan High Quantity of Win Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 442	My paly didn't want that burst healing anyway. He would just run out of mana that much faster pure holy spec. Judgement of the wise is officially nerfed, no longer good for healing either. Well at least healing will be in higher demand, since doing it will be like cutting yourself even more.

09-30-2008, 07:50 PM	#5044 (permalink)
BurnemWizfyre Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ingleside Texas Posts: 1,296 -36 Internets	Wotlk shall be known as the great healing depression.

09-30-2008, 07:56 PM	#5045 (permalink)
Erumaron yeap yeap Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 1,485	I'm contemplating shelving my Priest for this one. Disc is a little interesting but healers as a whole definatly drew the short straw.

09-30-2008, 09:47 PM	#5048 (permalink)
meStevo Registered User Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 2,542 +3 Internets	So is it going to take another expansion to get in-game guild recognition/leveling into the most popular MMO? The way EQ2 does it makes me want to play that game, the way Warhammer does it makes me wish I wasn't in some random guild that invited me one day and had the time to help a less useless group of people progress. I don't know, just one more carrot, and I've always had fun helping others as much as I help myself... I love the idea of gaining levels as a guild, with whatever rewards as a result. To go along with that, why doesnt WoW announce to your guild when you level, or log it in the guild accomplishments, etc. Higher level guilds in the game could get a server-wide broadcast of their new level once past a certain threshold. I dont know, just dont see why this kind of stuff isn't already there.

09-30-2008, 11:05 PM	#5050 (permalink)
Murr Token Gnome Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,124 +19 Internets	Combat rogues got some positive changes! yay!

10-01-2008, 12:37 AM	#5052 (permalink)
Gnome Eater Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,230 +3 Internets	Holy paladins with the insta HL were insane, pity they get a rough PvE nerf because of PvP. They finally realized arena would be retarded with 3.0 changes so they just shut it down. I guess every single gladiator won't be a ret paladin at least.

10-01-2008, 12:48 AM	#5053 (permalink)
BurnemWizfyre Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ingleside Texas Posts: 1,296 -36 Internets	MMO-Champion BlueTracker - I don't even play a holy pally, but wtf? That dev needs to be fucking fired or told to stfu when it comes to healer class, she wants all the healers lumped into one forum so we can fight over scraps i suppose. She claims every healer feels as though they are the worst healers in the game, its because she has failed equally with every fucking healer in the game. Fuck that bitch, with a baseball bat, stupid cunt.

10-01-2008, 12:58 AM	#5054 (permalink)
Gnome Eater Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,230 +3 Internets	She's completely right though. Balance versus mobs it is easy. It is relative balance between classes in the same role that is very tricky. If all healers suck, all it will mean is that they will make raid damage slightly less insane. When every fight in Sunwell required you to bring 3 resto shamans for chain heal spam or you'd get raped by AoE damage, then they realized they went a bit too far.

10-01-2008, 01:01 AM	#5055 (permalink)
BurnemWizfyre Registered User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ingleside Texas Posts: 1,296 -36 Internets	If all healers suck, it means the vast majority stop healing.