[WoW] WotLK - Beta Patch Notes - Page 121

LadyVex · 08-08-2008, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Arrr

Right now, the customization options are turned off. I'm sure they'll look a LOT better once they add some more in.

Armor-wise, though, DKs look fucking awesome. The armor you end up with before you leave the tutorial area is really cool looking.

Yea the armor looks badass, but I had pretty much already decided what my DK would look like, so that she looked "evil". Right now the skins simply look like they took a very bad green coloring and just painted all the DKs with it. Also, I assume you can pick faces and hair styles still (Yes/No?) so maybe I just think the race combo picked in the pictures is awful. Here's to hoping.

Zerai · 08-09-2008, 12:17 AM

Warrior 30 min cooldowns...are now 5. However. Shield wall is 50% now. Recklessness is next 3 special attacks crit. Retaliation looks about the same.

They moved Bloodfrenzy..deeper into Arms. Big wtf on that. However, they swapped the places with unrelenting assault. Which means you can build a nice pvp setup with 37/31/3. Not entirely sure on the 1 in fury. 37/30/3 is solid but leaves one point kinda hanging. Can put it in imp whirlwind, imp beserker rage, imp blood rage, imp execute, imp MS...Haven't quite figured it out.

Arrr · 08-09-2008, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyVex

Yea the armor looks badass, but I had pretty much already decided what my DK would look like, so that she looked "evil". Right now the skins simply look like they took a very bad green coloring and just painted all the DKs with it. Also, I assume you can pick faces and hair styles still (Yes/No?) so maybe I just think the race combo picked in the pictures is awful. Here's to hoping.

Right now they're set to just one style per race/gender combo. No customization yet.

Ninen · 08-09-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by LadyVex

Yea the armor looks badass, but I had pretty much already decided what my DK would look like, so that she looked "evil". Right now the skins simply look like they took a very bad green coloring and just painted all the DKs with it. Also, I assume you can pick faces and hair styles still (Yes/No?) so maybe I just think the race combo picked in the pictures is awful. Here's to hoping.

Heh, Green gnomes. Leper gnomes.

Brikker · 08-09-2008, 03:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Deathwing

My warrior is a gnome, and I'm considering rolling a gnome DK just because...well, when was the last time you saw a gnome warrior, much less one tanking?

Our MT is a gnome

Chrisb3 · 08-09-2008, 04:29 AM

Male Draenai looks like undead Diablo.

Lithose · 08-09-2008, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerai

Warrior 30 min cooldowns...are now 5. However. Shield wall is 50% now. Recklessness is next 3 special attacks crit. Retaliation looks about the same.

They moved Bloodfrenzy..deeper into Arms. Big wtf on that. However, they swapped the places with unrelenting assault. Which means you can build a nice pvp setup with 37/31/3. Not entirely sure on the 1 in fury. 37/30/3 is solid but leaves one point kinda hanging. Can put it in imp whirlwind, imp beserker rage, imp blood rage, imp execute, imp MS...Haven't quite figured it out.

Shield block was also changed, it now has no charges and will increase BV/BR by 100% for the entire 5 seconds, no matter how often you are hit. Pretty amazing change, protection is starting to shape up, also, it looks like shield slam got a damage increase, 740 base damage, before BV is added (I'm not sure what the 80 version was previously.)

Still though, with the way the other classes talents are shaping up, even our best tree by far, protection, is really pretty far behind its counterparts. Seems that DKs just got another 1 minute shield wall deep in frost..Because they needed a third, right?

Caocao · 08-09-2008, 06:23 AM

Is there a link to any of this? My main is a warrior and I've had to switch from DpS to Tanking b/c of Sunwell and I was actually begining to like Prot Warrior. If these changes are for real, that is quite amazing.

Murr · 08-09-2008, 08:55 AM

um, hello hit rating?

Zerai · 08-09-2008, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Caocao

Is there a link to any of this? My main is a warrior and I've had to switch from DpS to Tanking b/c of Sunwell and I was actually begining to like Prot Warrior. If these changes are for real, that is quite amazing.

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And Murr, doesn't the effect from rating like half by the time you hit 80? As in 1% at 80 is double the hit rating that gave 1% at 70? Roughly. Still a huge amount of hit though.

Murr · 08-09-2008, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerai

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And Murr, doesn't the effect from rating like half by the time you hit 80? As in 1% at 80 is double the hit rating that gave 1% at 70? Roughly. Still a huge amount of hit though.

Yeah it's roughly double, but that's still kind of obscene for a lv 76 blue

According to EJ, it's ~32 hit rating per 1% at 80, so that's right at 3% hit if you don't fudge the %.

Goliath · 08-09-2008, 09:33 AM

I think the DK skins look great. I picked the coolest looking race out of the 10 and it ended up being:

(Starting Armor)

(Full set quested)

Goliath · 08-09-2008, 10:00 AM

They really should do the Death Knight system for every other class. They could have one big area and lump the other classes within it. Or hell, put them in the Death Knight area and modify a few quests for each class.

It's really cool to be able and start at level 55, then quickly level to 58 within a few hours. Meanwhile learning your class, spells and talents gradually so that by the time you are 57 and completing the last few quests you are excited about receiving 3-6 talents each for those last few quests so that you can get that new ability.

I'm somebody who likes leveling characters and questing in games. I love being a newbie and a lowbie with a new class. But in WoW, even with the mass population and success, it's just too boring to level new characters and do the same old quests because you're almost always alone and rarely see other people. You either bore yourself to death leveling alone all day, or make a new char on a new server or extremely populated server and pay to transfer it later. But even then, it's not enough.

I'm now with all the others that say "To hell with 1-60 content."

Frankly I wish they tuned the experience in the Death Knight area higher so that you came out at 60, rather than 58. I know you can enter BC at 58, but it's just a tad too low.

Pyros · 08-09-2008, 10:38 AM

They might, after WoTLK, create a "newbie" zone thingie, where you start instantly at 55 if you wish to, with tutorials and stuff like that, and just put all trials on it or something(while offering BC enabled trials). I don't see it happening before wotlk launch though.

Makata · 08-09-2008, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Murr

um, hello hit rating?

I've heard you're going to need over 700 to be capped at 80. Makes playing melee just seem stupid. Here lets make a bunch of artificial requirements just to make sure you're forced to stay as far behind mudflation as possible.

08-09-2008, 12:17 AM	#1802 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 4,175 +12 Internets	Warrior 30 min cooldowns...are now 5. However. Shield wall is 50% now. Recklessness is next 3 special attacks crit. Retaliation looks about the same. They moved Bloodfrenzy..deeper into Arms. Big wtf on that. However, they swapped the places with unrelenting assault. Which means you can build a nice pvp setup with 37/31/3. Not entirely sure on the 1 in fury. 37/30/3 is solid but leaves one point kinda hanging. Can put it in imp whirlwind, imp beserker rage, imp blood rage, imp execute, imp MS...Haven't quite figured it out. Last edited by Zerai; 08-09-2008 at 12:32 AM..

08-09-2008, 04:29 AM	#1806 (permalink)
Chrisb3 Farming negs Join Date: May 2007 Location: Wigan, England Posts: 1,697 -84 Internets	Male Draenai looks like undead Diablo. __________________ Dominara, Champion of the Frozen Wastes: EU-Sylvanas.

08-09-2008, 09:33 AM	#1812 (permalink)
Goliath Still not the Abyss Join Date: May 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,920	I think the DK skins look great. I picked the coolest looking race out of the 10 and it ended up being: (Starting Armor) (Full set quested) __________________ Damn my eyes! You're just another mirage!

08-09-2008, 10:00 AM	#1813 (permalink)
Goliath Still not the Abyss Join Date: May 2002 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,920	They really should do the Death Knight system for every other class. They could have one big area and lump the other classes within it. Or hell, put them in the Death Knight area and modify a few quests for each class. It's really cool to be able and start at level 55, then quickly level to 58 within a few hours. Meanwhile learning your class, spells and talents gradually so that by the time you are 57 and completing the last few quests you are excited about receiving 3-6 talents each for those last few quests so that you can get that new ability. I'm somebody who likes leveling characters and questing in games. I love being a newbie and a lowbie with a new class. But in WoW, even with the mass population and success, it's just too boring to level new characters and do the same old quests because you're almost always alone and rarely see other people. You either bore yourself to death leveling alone all day, or make a new char on a new server or extremely populated server and pay to transfer it later. But even then, it's not enough. I'm now with all the others that say "To hell with 1-60 content." Frankly I wish they tuned the experience in the Death Knight area higher so that you came out at 60, rather than 58. I know you can enter BC at 58, but it's just a tad too low. __________________ Damn my eyes! You're just another mirage!

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08-09-2008, 06:23 AM	#1808 (permalink)
Caocao Stop running back to old times Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: EC Tunnels Posts: 952	Is there a link to any of this? My main is a warrior and I've had to switch from DpS to Tanking b/c of Sunwell and I was actually begining to like Prot Warrior. If these changes are for real, that is quite amazing.

08-09-2008, 08:55 AM	#1809 (permalink)
Murr Token Gnome Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 2,124 +19 Internets	um, hello hit rating?

08-09-2008, 10:38 AM	#1814 (permalink)
Pyros Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 3,528 +42 Internets	They might, after WoTLK, create a "newbie" zone thingie, where you start instantly at 55 if you wish to, with tutorials and stuff like that, and just put all trials on it or something(while offering BC enabled trials). I don't see it happening before wotlk launch though.