[WoW]Achievements System - Page 17

Zerai · 07-31-2008, 09:53 PM

Last I checked..raiding doesn't really advance you any more than say, pvp does within its respective field. I guess in the pve field, raiding is the next step, but its just gear, same as everything else.

Again, WoW is not the game you're looking for Makata. You're way too hardcore and you don't raid, which is not Blizzard's target demographic at all. Go play a korean mmo. If you like grinding for abilities so much, you'll love them.

Makata · 08-01-2008, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerai

Last I checked..raiding doesn't really advance you any more than say, pvp does within its respective field.

Except you're wrong. Get better gear from raids and nearly every other aspect of the game is made better/easier. Soloing. questing, 5 man, heroics, any other pve based instance in the entire game. PvP gear is used in all of 4 battlegrounds and arena.

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Again, WoW is not the game you're looking for Makata. You're way too hardcore and you don't raid, which is not Blizzard's target demographic at all. Go play a korean mmo. If you like grinding for abilities so much, you'll love them.

Except I already bought this game and already have my characters on it. Why would I want to start over?

Zerai · 08-01-2008, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Makata

Except you're wrong. Get better gear from raids and nearly every other aspect of the game is made better/easier. Soloing. questing, 5 man, heroics, any other pve based instance in the entire game. PvP gear is used in all of 4 battlegrounds and arena.

Did you read my entire first paragraph? it was 2 fucking sentences. People might actually like you if you weren't such a douche.

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Except I already bought this game and already have my characters on it. Why would I want to start over?

Because WoW's business model does not support you. To support you would be to kick dirt in the face of their primary money giver. Which is bad business sense. Blizz has proved they are anything but. So with that in mind, why do you keep playing when you should know they won't cater to you?

Makata · 08-01-2008, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Zerai

Did you read my entire first paragraph? it was 2 fucking sentences. People might actually like you if you weren't such a douche.

I did read it. I just couldn't believe your second sentence contradicted your first so I gave you enough credit to assume that by pve you meant raiding. Because in terms of content, 90% of this game is pve. So to say A is only good for pve makes it just as limiting as B only being for pvp is retarded.

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Because WoW's business model does not support you. To support you would be to kick dirt in the face of their primary money giver. Which is bad business sense. Blizz has proved they are anything but. So with that in mind, why do you keep playing when you should know they won't cater to you?

I just answered your fucking question. I already bought this game and already have characters on it. To switch games would cost money and time getting back up to where I am now. Exactly the reason I've only ever played 1 major game at a time.

Sharmai · 08-01-2008, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Makata

I just answered your fucking question. I already bought this game and already have characters on it. To switch games would cost money and time getting back up to where I am now. Exactly the reason I've only ever played 1 major game at a time.

Ok that makes sense. You bought a game expecting one thing and got something else. You've lost a lot of time and money into it.

Your choices are 1. Leave said game and/or go get another which is known to represent what you want. To reduce the cost and downtime of this you can sell your existing WoW account and buy a new account with MMO of your choice. It's not a perfect solution but its one that's available to you.

2. Live with your choice and find a way to have fun. Or See #1.

You do not represent the majority of the gamers who bring in WoW's money. The most obvious reason being you and the minority of players complaining on the WoW boards don't even represent 1/10 of the players in the game who are happily enjoying paying their 15$ a month and the content they get.

Zerai · 08-01-2008, 09:42 AM

You were asking for permanent increases. There is nothing in the game besides levels that gives you permanent increases. Raiding or Heroics..its just gear. If you raid, sure you can do a heroic a bit better...but does it really matter? With the badge gear, the difference might come out to like 5 minutes.

And yeah, you spent money. They don't cater to your every whim. It's like everything else in life. If you go to starbucks twice a month and buy a coffee, if you want them to change stuff that the other people that go every day get, it's not going to change. Even though you spent money. It's irrelevant.

They aren't going to fuck over their customer base for you. Regardless of you saying that retarded line the b.net kiddies say "BUT I PAY MY $15 A MONTH" So do they..and they outnumber you. So your $15 pales in comparison to their $5 million.

Don't remember who posted it, but there was a fact on more choices actually limited people and caused people to be less happy. It was due to indecision. When you have too much freedom, most people tend to do nothing. But you give people a couple options, and they are much happier. These are facts Dumar can't get around and you want to buck. Which is nice..but that's not WoW. And never will be. You want a different game. You either give up WoW now, or bitch endlessly about nothing changing to suit your desires.

Jubee · 08-01-2008, 10:17 AM

What makes arena gear so bad for solo'ing? I wouldn't want my tank wearing 5/5 Vengeful Gladiators but my Pally sure as fuck solos a lot better in it than he would with his Kara gear. Even my holy set makes for a decent AE grinding set. I can solo 10 mobs at a time in Netherstorm in healing gear. Just how strong do you need to be?

Makata · 08-01-2008, 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Jubee

What makes arena gear so bad for solo'ing? I wouldn't want my tank wearing 5/5 Vengeful Gladiators but my Pally sure as fuck solos a lot better in it than he would with his Kara gear. Even my holy set makes for a decent AE grinding set. I can solo 10 mobs at a time in Netherstorm in healing gear. Just how strong do you need to be?

Not the point. Yet again. It is just something to do. Something to occupy 8pm-10pm for me. That's all I've ever really wanted from this game: a reasonably enjoyable way to pass time.

These days I log on, do a couple AVs, more if I can stomach it or we're winning. Once a week I'll do arena. Then with nothing left to do except more av's (which only last until I have all honor gear at which point it's back to square 1), I log off. I don't need any badges on any toon, nor VE rep, nor kara gear so kara is pointless as are heroics. I passed 5 mans a long time ago and have completed every quest I want with the only remaining ones just adding to my already 5 digit gold pool. No factions left to work on, no professions left to max (7 characters all 375/375). Even raiding itself would be rather pointless for the exact reason you mentioned: all it will do is let me raid more.

Zerai · 08-01-2008, 11:08 AM

So if you play every day and every weekend...you'll max out. Colour me shocked. Play other games, read a book. You're asking for something blizzard won't do.

Izuldan · 08-01-2008, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Makata

Not the point. Yet again. It is just something to do. Something to occupy 8pm-10pm for me. That's all I've ever really wanted from this game: a reasonably enjoyable way to pass time.

These days I log on, do a couple AVs, more if I can stomach it or we're winning. Once a week I'll do arena. Then with nothing left to do except more av's (which only last until I have all honor gear at which point it's back to square 1), I log off. I don't need any badges on any toon, nor VE rep, nor kara gear so kara is pointless as are heroics. I passed 5 mans a long time ago and have completed every quest I want with the only remaining ones just adding to my already 5 digit gold pool. No factions left to work on, no professions left to max (7 characters all 375/375). Even raiding itself would be rather pointless for the exact reason you mentioned: all it will do is let me raid more.

It seems to me then it's Mission Accomplished at Blizzard.

You aren't logging in much, you aren't hogging bandwidth, and you are still paying the monthly fee like an obedient monkey.

If you would just stop logging in entirely and continue paying the monthly fee you would become the *perfect* customer. Spend all your time and energy complaining about a game you pay for but don't spend any time and energy actually playing the game.

Digits · 08-01-2008, 11:23 AM

Here's what I want from a game.

Okay, but the game doesn't cater to you. Find something else.

Yes, but I bought the game and have a character.

But you don't enjoy it and there are other games for you to play.

Yes, but you don't understand, I bought this game.

Continue for next 20 pages.

Mageling · 08-01-2008, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Digits

Here's what I want from a game.

Okay, but the game doesn't cater to you. Find something else.

Yes, but I bought the game and have a character.

But you don't enjoy it and there are other games for you to play.

Yes, but you don't understand, I bought this game.

Continue for next 20 pages.

/end thread

/hide new thread from Makata

Genjiro · 08-01-2008, 01:40 PM

Shit nm, I'm in the wrong thread. QQ

Ziggurat · 08-01-2008, 03:19 PM

This is now a non-wow specific thread I guess.

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Originally Posted by shacknews

Blizzard Entertainment's anticipated PC sequels StarCraft II and Diablo III will track a player's achievements via a unified "Blizzard Account," World of Warcraft lead designer Jeff Kaplan has revealed.

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Originally Posted by shacknews

"Your WoW score would be just one factor that will go into your Blizzard Level," Kaplan added. "And rather than call it a 'score,' we just wanted it to be like you're leveling up on Blizzard games... You'll have this Blizzard identity, and you'll be able to see things like 'Oh, this guy was great at Diablo III, but he never played Starcraft and he was mediocre in WoW.' That sort of thing."

Rest of article: Achievements Planned for StarCraft 2, Diablo 3 - Shacknews - PC Games, PlayStation, Xbox 360 and Wii video game news, previews and downloads

Zerai · 08-01-2008, 03:45 PM

Now that is just comical.

08-01-2008, 10:17 AM	#247 (permalink)
Jubee This is how I look when I post. Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,777 +5 Internets	What makes arena gear so bad for solo'ing? I wouldn't want my tank wearing 5/5 Vengeful Gladiators but my Pally sure as fuck solos a lot better in it than he would with his Kara gear. Even my holy set makes for a decent AE grinding set. I can solo 10 mobs at a time in Netherstorm in healing gear. Just how strong do you need to be? __________________ Rekt, 80 Paladin

08-01-2008, 11:23 AM	#251 (permalink)
Digits The good news is that you're still alive. The bad news is that that's the good news. Also, you have no legs. Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: 'Merica, land of the free. Posts: 1,268 +1 Internets	Here's what I want from a game. Okay, but the game doesn't cater to you. Find something else. Yes, but I bought the game and have a character. But you don't enjoy it and there are other games for you to play. Yes, but you don't understand, I bought this game. Continue for next 20 pages. __________________ Hatcher No one cares where

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Genjiro We bawlin boi! Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 3,823	Shit nm, I'm in the wrong thread. QQ __________________ Genjiro--Legacy of Steel--EQ1 sexy monk (retired) Entreri--Guildleader of Ardent Legion--EQ2 (retired) "The men the American public admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." -- H.L. Mencken Last edited by Genjiro; 08-01-2008 at 01:54 PM..

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07-31-2008, 09:53 PM	#241 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 3,872 +6 Internets	Last I checked..raiding doesn't really advance you any more than say, pvp does within its respective field. I guess in the pve field, raiding is the next step, but its just gear, same as everything else. Again, WoW is not the game you're looking for Makata. You're way too hardcore and you don't raid, which is not Blizzard's target demographic at all. Go play a korean mmo. If you like grinding for abilities so much, you'll love them.

08-01-2008, 09:42 AM	#246 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 3,872 +6 Internets	You were asking for permanent increases. There is nothing in the game besides levels that gives you permanent increases. Raiding or Heroics..its just gear. If you raid, sure you can do a heroic a bit better...but does it really matter? With the badge gear, the difference might come out to like 5 minutes. And yeah, you spent money. They don't cater to your every whim. It's like everything else in life. If you go to starbucks twice a month and buy a coffee, if you want them to change stuff that the other people that go every day get, it's not going to change. Even though you spent money. It's irrelevant. They aren't going to fuck over their customer base for you. Regardless of you saying that retarded line the b.net kiddies say "BUT I PAY MY $15 A MONTH" So do they..and they outnumber you. So your $15 pales in comparison to their $5 million. Don't remember who posted it, but there was a fact on more choices actually limited people and caused people to be less happy. It was due to indecision. When you have too much freedom, most people tend to do nothing. But you give people a couple options, and they are much happier. These are facts Dumar can't get around and you want to buck. Which is nice..but that's not WoW. And never will be. You want a different game. You either give up WoW now, or bitch endlessly about nothing changing to suit your desires.

08-01-2008, 11:08 AM	#249 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 3,872 +6 Internets	So if you play every day and every weekend...you'll max out. Colour me shocked. Play other games, read a book. You're asking for something blizzard won't do.

08-01-2008, 03:45 PM	#255 (permalink)
Zerai ~ Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: An Igloo Posts: 3,872 +6 Internets	Now that is just comical.