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Old 06-23-2008, 11:01 AM   #1 (permalink)
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New MMORPG from the creator of the Might and Magic series

Not sure how many folks remember the name Jon Van Caneghem; he was the founder of New World Computing (later bought by 3DO) and the creator of the Might and Magic series which was introduced in 1986. Personally, I was a huge fan of the series and remember playing MM3 back in high school in 1991 (didn't play the first two).

After joining NCSoft very briefly, he went on to found a company called Trion and they have announced their first project:
Trion World Network, Inc., Broadband Games Publisher: News

Not much concrete info yet but I mention it because I consider this guy one of the godfathers of CRPGs along with names such as Richard Garriott, Michael Cranford (Bard's Tale), etc.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:06 AM   #2 (permalink)
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All of this will be powered by Trion's revolutionary server-based architecture, which is uniquely designed to enable massive scalability, dynamic content evolution, and cross platform development.
This has, "Seriously guys, it's only beta, there's a miracle patch they're holding for release!" written all over it.

I've spent more time playing heroes of might and magic 3 then any other non-MMO so here's hoping. If anybody can design fun repetitive gameplay it should be this guy.
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Not sure how many folks remember the name Jon Van Caneghem; he was the founder of New World Computing (later bought by 3DO) and the creator of the Might and Magic series which was introduced in 1986. Personally, I was a huge fan of the series and remember playing MM3 back in high school in 1991 (didn't play the first two).

After joining NCSoft very briefly, he went on to found a company called Trion and they have announced their first project:
Trion World Network, Inc., Broadband Games Publisher: News

Not much concrete info yet but I mention it because I consider this guy one of the godfathers of CRPGs along with names such as Richard Garriott, Michael Cranford (Bard's Tale), etc.
He created HoMM3 and therefore will always hold a special place in my heart.

I miss my Ancient Behemoth megastacks.

Yeah I should add I loved World of Xeen too.

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Old 06-23-2008, 11:11 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Not sure how many folks remember the name Jon Van Caneghem;

If there's anyone that doesn't know that name, gtfo. Seriously, gtfo.

Might and Magic 2 was the greatest CRPG ever released to that date. It was metric fuckyears beyond Ultima 3, Wizardry 2, etc... And King's Bounty (later HoMM) owns all your +internets, that's one dev I wouldn't mind see posting here.


PS: Might and Magic 2 had Epic Quests for each class in 1988. Read that again.

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Old 06-23-2008, 11:19 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If there's anyone that doesn't know that name, gtfo. Seriously, gtfo.

Might and Magic 2 was the greatest CRPG ever released to that date. It was metric fuckyears beyond Ultima 3, Wizardry 2, etc... And King's Bounty (later HoMM) owns all your +internets, that's one dev I wouldn't mind see posting here.

PS: Might and Magic 2 had Epic Quests for each class in 1988. Read that again.
I missed out on MM1 and MM2 At that time I was pretty busy with the Bard's Tale and Ultima series.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:22 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:26 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wasteland? Of course! There wouldn't be a Fallout today without it. ;P

Also, if you want to play a tough Wizardry, give Wizardry 4 a shot.
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Wizardry was definitely hard as well. Ultima was my favorite CRPG series, but the difficulty was never quite there along side Wizardry and M&M which were hard as fuck until later in the series.

The one thing totally gone from CRPGs is the amount of fucking paper you needed to finish a game. Writing down all those x,y coords, names, items, etc... I don't miss that, but it's a testament to how hard they were. I still have my Ultima V notes, because they were taken down directly in the manual (shrines, mantras, un-mantras, loc's) I wish I had saved the rest from other games just for geekdom sake.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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From the press release it looks like SOE will be the publisher for the product. Queue SOE bashing in 3...2...

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I'm part of the minority that thinks HoMM2 >> all other HoMMs. Always a plus when HoMM2 music shows up on South Park.

Planescape:Torment remains the single greatest CRPG released on the PC followed closely (and for different reasons) by Ultima 7.

Edit: Wizardry (the first and second) I remember fairly well as they were the first CRPGS I ever played on a computer but though I know I played M&M (at least the first one) I don't remember it all. I do remember U3:Exodus -- that was amazing for its time. My brother filled the entire landmass with treasure chests ;-)

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I just remember early Wizardry and early Might and Magic games being hard as hell.

Did anyone play a CRPG from the same era called Wasteland? I really got into that game, but also hard as hell.
Wasteland was spectacular but tough. That first automatic weapon was one of the high points of my life. And Wasteland begat Fallout, which by itself would be enough to make Wasteland one of the greatest games ever.

I played MM1 and then really got into MM3, which was one of the best CRPGs from that Golden Age of yore. I think MM5 was the other one I really liked. Based on his track record, this MMO he's working on is definitely worth some attention.
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I'm part of the minority that thinks HoMM2 >> all other HoMMs. Always a plus when HoMM2 music shows up on South Park.

Planescape:Torment remains the single greatest CRPG released on the PC followed closely (and for different reasons) by Ultima 7.
PST has an awesome story, it's a great game. And saying anything bad about it around here is instant death, I know. But I definitely think of it as more of a hybrid of an adventure-game with some RPG elements.

And I must be way behind the times, but which ep did South Park use HoMM2 music? I missed it. The other great thing about the HoMM's through 3 is it really explained and expanded on the whole meta-story of Might and Magic. Really good story in retrospect.
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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From the press release it looks like SOE will be the publisher for the product. Queue SOE bashing in 3...2...

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Where did you see that SOE would be publisher? I haven't had time to read all the media blurbs on that site yet All I saw was:

"The game represents the initial first-party title on the Trion Platform, and will be published by Trion in both North America and Europe."
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Old 06-23-2008, 11:44 AM   #13 (permalink)
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Did anyone ever play this game? I remember it being probably the first RPG of any sort that really sucked me in...

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Where did you see that SOE would be publisher? I haven't had time to read all the media blurbs on that site yet All I saw was:

"The game represents the initial first-party title on the Trion Platform, and will be published by Trion in both North America and Europe."
"Today Trion also announced a publishing agreement with Sony as well as a major co-development deal with Sci-Fi Channel."
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Did anyone ever play this game? I remember it being probably the first RPG of any sort that really sucked me in...


One of my favorite games ever. I spent an entire summer between a swimming pool, this game, and Ultima V. Long live the EA staff and their nerf-guns! (You get to fight them in the game as a Easter Egg)

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