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Old 06-11-2008, 12:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thumbs down Attention all you MMORPGing Wierdo Dregs! You. Are. Offically On notice!

So says the guy who designed Star Wars NGE.


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MMO Developers.

You are officially all on notice.

Everyone except Blizzard…

They don’t count because they’re off in some magical alternate universe where nobody ever goes hungry and the king of the Mushroom people writes all of your design documents and you get to ride a giant squid to work.

Oh yeah.. Raph isn’t included either. He’s pushing the envelope in a different way, so he gets a free pass.

But the rest of you.

Every last one of you.

YOU

ARE

ON

NOTICE.

Yes, even you POTBS.

And you LOTRO.

Every last one of you motherfuckers is in big big trouble.

You see, I came to a realization that in the past 2 years since I left SOE, none of you motherfuckers have done anything different.

Absolutely

Nothing

Different.

Every game, Beta, Alpha, Preview and whatever for these new releases and upcoming games is almost identical to every other fucking game before it.

The conversations are the same, the arguments are the same, the systems are the same, hell.. Even the graphics are the same (HELLO BLOCKY FANTASY CHARACTERS!).

What the fuck people? You’ve had plenty of time to impress us. You’ve got the technology, you have the know-how..

Why the same shit different day syndrome?

Yes, I know it’s hard. Yes, it’s difficult to design, yes, it’s also expensive.

But for fucks sake people.

You’re not even trying. Your development process and designs are insular. MMO’s today are the equivalent of Asian styled game designs.

Stagnant, insular, nichey and fucking weird. You cater to the edges of society and playstyles.

You focus on the dregs when you can be reinventing the actual state of play.

Social dynamics when combined with cutting edge AAA gameplay will elevate simple play to a level never reached in game development.

Leverage the console streamlining for gameplay, combine it with the social dynamics knowhow pushed by Raph and Co, and BAM.

You can make something far greater than the sum of it’s parts.

But Noooooo…

You’re content not even trying. You spend AAA game money on niche products. The 30 million dollar game for weirdos.

Long-tail shit is fine, but don’t spend 30 mil. Spend 5. Spend 2. Spend 30 on the real deal, spend 50 on the real deal.

So. You’ve all been warned. I want some better fucking games out of you people. Quit dicking around in the past and get to work.

I don’t want to have to come back there. I’ve got too much other shit to work on here.

If anything, give Freeman and Crew some cash so they can kick some life into this stupid market.

Oh yeah, addendum.

If you continue to refuse to acknowledge consoles as the de-facto standard for AAA gaming, you will go out of business.

Quit making PC games. It’s a waste of time and money.

Second Addendum : Also, I know APB is pushing the envelope but until I can play it, I don’t believe they can do it the way they are doing it.

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Old 06-11-2008, 12:01 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:05 PM   #3 (permalink)
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A++ rant would read again
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:11 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Id post the "thumbs down BAN HIM!" pic but would take too long to upload.

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Old 06-11-2008, 12:17 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Compared to console games, I would imagine PC games don't draw as much money but seriously does this tool think that the future of MMOs lay in the Xbox360, PS3, Wii, etc?
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Not sure which part is more retarded: the free pass for Raph, the part about moving MMOs to consoles, or simply the fact that the NGE developer is talking shit in the first place. I certainly hope he's doing said shit talking safely from the sidelines outside the game industry (which is where Raph belongs too).
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:22 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:22 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:24 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Only the person who made it really, really loves themselves, and LSD.
This will turn things around for Brad's image.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:24 PM   #10 (permalink)
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NGE designer guy talking shit. Amazing.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Not sure which part is more retarded: the free pass for Raph, the part about moving MMOs to consoles, or simply the fact that the NGE developer is talking shit in the first place. I certainly hope he's doing said shit talking safely from the sidelines outside the game industry (which is where Raph belongs too).
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NGE designer guy talking shit. Amazing.
Agreed on all counts. As a former pre-CU, pre-NGE SWG player, I whole-heartedly say "Fuck you", you arrogant, misguided piece of shit developer.

If you had listened to your fanbase, maybe you and your team wouldn't have converted the few good elements of that game other than the social system into the absolute crap you bitch about. Funny your rant deals with everything you did to completely fuck over a loyal gaming fanbase.

You're a fucking reformed whore of a dev with no room to talk, sir. Now GTFO of MMO design/development discussion.

Dan Rubenfield, author of the MMO temperance movement. That dipshit better not ever have the balls to post here.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:33 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Some article on Gamasutra completely ripped the whole move to consoles thing apart in response. He said there are over 198 million computers out there in used today with GeForce 5 and above Nvidia cards out there, plus similar numbers of equally powerful ATI cards. There's only 190 million PS2+PS3+Xbox 360+Wiis out there.

The only reason NOT to make PC games is piracy, and that does not apply in any way to MMOs.

The guy is totally right in that no one, except maybe CCP (not that I'm saying EVE is a good game by any standard of measuring actual game playability) is doing anything new at all, but his individual points are pretty retarded.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:37 PM   #13 (permalink)
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None the less, design for console but plan for PC's. Like Mist pointed out, the market is there for non-MMO's.

Stardock could give a shit about piracy, and they do damn well. But they're in the vast minority, and they don't throw money away on copy protection.

I don't mind "Console-First", especially after seeing games like San Andreas, Bioshock, Mass Effect, LEGO, etc.. But this dipshit thinks they should stop trying altogether. /boggle I love GCiv/Sins, Fantasy Wars, and the slew of engine-remakes like Ultima V/VI. And I'm really looking forward to AGD's QFG 2 remake. Might want to think about hiring folks like that instead of ignoring them. But every so often there's a Chicken-Little belief that PC gaming is dead. I remember hearing that for the first time in 1992.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:38 PM   #14 (permalink)
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You'd think that rather than calling everyone a failure (except for Blizzard of course!) he'd try to figure out what they're doing right and copy that.
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Old 06-11-2008, 12:40 PM   #15 (permalink)
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The only reason NOT to make PC games is piracy, and that does not apply in any way to MMOs.
You can pirate MMO's, it's just it takes a long fucking time to get it up and running and most don't have the patience or talent to pull it off.
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