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Old 06-23-2008, 02:51 PM   #511 (permalink)
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Looks like I'm going to have two posts in a row, its a slow day at work for me.

I'm looking for some insight.

Currently I play on the progession server with a full group of RL friends. We're all level 55 and have never stepped into anything beyond Velious, actually we just got into Velious over the weekend. We did 1-51 in old world and didn't move into Kunark until we downed Vox, Naggy, and Phini several times. We're wanting to rexperience some of the old content that we loved so much but because its just 6 of us it raises some very valid questions about what we can do by ourselves. We all want our epics but I don't know how reasonable getting through the castle in Chardok is with 1 group of 60's let alone killing the King and Queen!

Party make up is, and they're all 55
Warrior
Bard
Monk
Wizard
Shaman
Cleric

So we can single pull most things, backed by a slower and some limited CC. Where will we cap out? We ran into the Castle in Velks today, killed one of the Crystal'line' Gargoyles pretty easily then directly lost the War and Bard and had to evac to 2 Crystal Sentinels(Slow wouldn't land and too high for bard to mez!). Anyway we're looking at our epics and some Velious content and wondering if we should even try. 1 grouping the golems in fear at 60 isn't completely unreasonable, but 1 grouping Chardok, or better yet the final boss of the Cleric Epic, Ragefire, is a little more unreasonable we think.

Despite my negative perspective Vox and Naggy gave me hope, also as far as the real power of any mob I did everything minus VT up to PoTime at level and at gear, but usually had about 71 other Empire members with me.

So to be very specific here.

How many 60s it take to kill Trak utilizing max resists from gear/bard/buff and pulling him to his banish spot if you can maintain 0 adds during the fight?

At what point will VR not rape the MT with his lifetap? (how many 60's to down again?)

Golems in Fear
Ragefire
Vindi

*As a disclaimer, if you think you can't one group HoT (Halls of Testing) ,at level 60 with velious and below gear, in ToV(Temple of Veeshan) for SS Quest Gear (SkyShrine) then don't try to answer my questions please!*
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Old 06-23-2008, 05:01 PM   #512 (permalink)
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So we can single pull most things, backed by a slower and some limited CC. Where will we cap out? We ran into the Castle in Velks today, killed one of the Crystal'line' Gargoyles pretty easily then directly lost the War and Bard and had to evac to 2 Crystal Sentinels(Slow wouldn't land and too high for bard to mez!). Anyway we're looking at our epics and some Velious content and wondering if we should even try. 1 grouping the golems in fear at 60 isn't completely unreasonable, but 1 grouping Chardok, or better yet the final boss of the Cleric Epic, Ragefire, is a little more unreasonable we think.
Dispell mobs that might be hasted and you can't get slow on them quickly. A pair of hasted mobs vs a pair of slowed mobs around level 55 put out allmost 5 times the damage. I remember Velks when Velious was new and before the resists were changed/tuned, everything in there resisted spells like madd and with so many shaman mobs (in the Kobold areas anyway) dispelling haste and other buffs made a big difference. Meanest mobs I remember in Velious were the hasted flurry drakes in NToV.

With just Kunark gear/levels one grouping some of the mobs would be hard. With a bit of extra gear from Velious, especially weapons and resist gear it shouldn't be too difficult.
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Old 06-23-2008, 06:07 PM   #513 (permalink)
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Awake, thanks for posting that interview link.

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[doug cronkhite]: There were so many great encounters in EverQuest that it’s hard to really narrow it down to one. [...] The Rathe Council – Whether you liked it or not, this was really the 1st event in EverQuest that I ever saw that even the smallest mistake could send the raid tumbling out of control. Everyone HAD to be on their game and doing their job or it all went to hell, and quickly. I think EverQuest does a better job of this aspect of raiding than any other game on the market.
It's been five years, and artificial cockblocking aside, I still vividly recall how much that encounter sucked balls. The first night we made it into Plane of Time, I quit EQ for WoW friends and family alpha and haven't looked back since.

How are rogues in EQ1 these days? Wondering if it's worth firing up EQ at all to bring my lvl 65/212 AA/1750 tradeskill club rogue with PoP raid gear into the present. The account would be, uh, 8 years old this month, whatever that is worth in veteran rewards.

Edit: 8 years, not 7 years.

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Old 06-23-2008, 06:12 PM   #514 (permalink)
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Awake, thanks for posting that interview link.


It's been five years, and artificial cockblocking aside, I still vividly recall how much that encounter sucked balls. The first night we made it into Plane of Time, I quit EQ for WoW friends and family alpha and haven't looked back since.

How are rogues in EQ1 these days? Wondering if it's worth firing up EQ at all to bring my lvl 65/212 AA/1750 tradeskill club rogue with PoP raid gear into the present. The account would be, uh, 7 years old this month, whatever that is worth in veteran rewards.
rogues are today insane dps. Way more than PoP era. they constant fight with wizards in dps calculations
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well started a sarnak fury, leveling in TD. So far its pretty decent solo quest linking chains, enjoyable spells all though a fucking ton for only level 13.
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Old 06-24-2008, 12:16 PM   #517 (permalink)
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Is there a better place than IGE for buying platinum? I have no idea how much I'd need, I guess along the lines of a quarter million, but IGE charges 39 bucks for 300k and I'd prefer to shop around. The only problem is I trust gold farmer sites as much as I can understand their employees.

I would prefer to make money the normal way, but I don't know of any good cash drops. right now I'm farming Rahotep for his 5 platinum scepter and random gold drops from the undead.

Edit: Thanks, not too much variety for FV but I still found a sale for 25 percent cheaper than IGE plus it's for a lesser amount. Perfect fit.
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Awake, thanks for posting that interview link.
I was pretty happy with the way the interview turned out, but yeah, Doug's response kind of threw me off. You had all these guys creating content now that were looking back at some of the amazing encounters in the early era of the game, and then you have one mention Rathe Council. Ugh... I still to this day do not want to ever think about doing that encounter again -- especially as a cleric or enchanter.
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Old 06-24-2008, 01:48 PM   #520 (permalink)
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Hmmm, a free period for EQ. It's the only game I think back to, I'm just concerned that if I see the graphics after all this time (I played very early, and only up into Kunark) that I'll rip my eye's out from the horrid graphics.

Did they update the graphics after all this time? Does it look... good?
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Old 06-24-2008, 03:07 PM   #522 (permalink)
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Hmmm, a free period for EQ. It's the only game I think back to, I'm just concerned that if I see the graphics after all this time (I played very early, and only up into Kunark) that I'll rip my eye's out from the horrid graphics.

Did they update the graphics after all this time? Does it look... good?
Looks worse than ever. All the revamped graphics are just as ugly as the old, but without the personality. If graphics are a genuine deal breaker with you than I doubt you'd survive to let all the other shit drive you away.
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Of course they still suck. But if the graphics kept you playing before at any point, you're weird.
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Looks worse than ever. All the revamped graphics are just as ugly as the old, but without the personality. If graphics are a genuine deal breaker with you than I doubt you'd survive to let all the other shit drive you away.
Graphics usually are not a deal breaker for me, to an extent. But it would be nice if they were updated to look a bit better, which I guess from what you said they are worse than what they were before.

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Even back in the day when EQ was new, it still looked a bit low quality imo. But, I still had a fun experience... some of my best MMO times were in that game for the while that I played. After I left I hear SOE totally fucked it all up.. so probably even if I were to play it again it would be a drastically different experience than what I had before, for the worse no doubt.
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Looks like I'm going to have two posts in a row, its a slow day at work for me.

I'm looking for some insight.

Currently I play on the progession server with a full group of RL friends. We're all level 55 and have never stepped into anything beyond Velious, actually we just got into Velious over the weekend. We did 1-51 in old world and didn't move into Kunark until we downed Vox, Naggy, and Phini several times. We're wanting to rexperience some of the old content that we loved so much but because its just 6 of us it raises some very valid questions about what we can do by ourselves. We all want our epics but I don't know how reasonable getting through the castle in Chardok is with 1 group of 60's let alone killing the King and Queen!

Party make up is, and they're all 55
Warrior
Bard
Monk
Wizard
Shaman
Cleric

So we can single pull most things, backed by a slower and some limited CC. Where will we cap out? We ran into the Castle in Velks today, killed one of the Crystal'line' Gargoyles pretty easily then directly lost the War and Bard and had to evac to 2 Crystal Sentinels(Slow wouldn't land and too high for bard to mez!). Anyway we're looking at our epics and some Velious content and wondering if we should even try. 1 grouping the golems in fear at 60 isn't completely unreasonable, but 1 grouping Chardok, or better yet the final boss of the Cleric Epic, Ragefire, is a little more unreasonable we think.

Despite my negative perspective Vox and Naggy gave me hope, also as far as the real power of any mob I did everything minus VT up to PoTime at level and at gear, but usually had about 71 other Empire members with me.

So to be very specific here.

How many 60s it take to kill Trak utilizing max resists from gear/bard/buff and pulling him to his banish spot if you can maintain 0 adds during the fight?

At what point will VR not rape the MT with his lifetap? (how many 60's to down again?)

Golems in Fear
Ragefire
Vindi

*As a disclaimer, if you think you can't one group HoT (Halls of Testing) ,at level 60 with velious and below gear, in ToV(Temple of Veeshan) for SS Quest Gear (SkyShrine) then don't try to answer my questions please!*
The thing about chardok is, clearing your way through, the respawn rate is pretty fast so you have to move on quickly. I'm a member of The Forgotten Travelers (a classic only guild on the combine) and just as fast as we clear through with 14-18 lvl52 and below people, the respawn really cuts close. So far though we've downed the prince and king in chardok, and ixiblat, all at 52. We've completed the enchanter, shaman, and almost a cleric epic (just need ragefire.)

As far as one grouping Trakanon at 60, it might be able to be done, but I don't think possible with kunark gear.

Trakanon has a 1500 dmg lifetap, a 1200 dmg ae (which is also a 150/tick dot and needs to be cured) and banish. Without like two more backup healers, you're most likely gonna get raped at 60 with kunark+classic only gear.

One grouping golems in fear at 60 is possibly, but you have to remember they have a DT with a 30 second refresh timer. There is one golem that does not DT.

Honestly I'd recommend joining The Forgotten Travelers (or another classic guild - Lords of the Combine or Dawn of Marr) to get your epics completed, but to join TFT right now you'd have to de-level to 52 (we're keeping that as our cap for a little while longer to continue farming naggy and vox.)

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