Talent builder for WotLK alpha - Page 3

Zerai · 05-31-2008, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mythas

Yeah now its up to Rogues, Hunters, Druids, and Warriors that get lolz caster shit doesn't work on you BEZERKZ MODE! I mean jesus they still leave spell push back in the game, Los as a mainstay for pvp, multiple other ways for the classes to gain / close range. I guess caster pvp is turning into Red Riding hood in Kara, except you fucking start as red riding hood and you stay that way till you die. Fucking fun.

The warrior beserk mode you can't do anything except whirlwind 3 times.

Mythas · 05-31-2008, 12:14 PM

Even so you wouldn't cripple the focus target, you cripple the gd healers right after a fear for an unmitigated 6 or so seconds of pounding on a focus target. Since if they use a trinket it only removes the fear, leaving them silenced for the duration unable to dispell.

Locks also got an immunity piercing spell that'll do around 1.4 - 1.8k dmg. Which means mages and paladins have to use block / bubble sooner than later else they may die from the damage.

Basically with the extra talents and the swappage of SL and DS locks just got really fucking scary in pvp. Now they'll have access to IHOT / SL / SL / UA / basically all the oompf aff provides plus the added meat shileding of SL. Yes even though SL went down from 20 to 15% it still rocks in pvp.

Oddly enough blizzard did nothing to change the current 3 class domination of 2v2's Locks / Wars / Druids. If anything they further cemented the predominance of those classes in that bracket.

Wow pvp "lulz r not balanced around 2v2 nub" still doesn't mean warriors and druids can't auto recieve the newest seasons gear the easiest.

Edit: Yes i understand the warrior can only WW in the zerk mode however its an all movement imparing effect dispell which provides A-fucking-mazing synergy to an already OP war / druid 2v2

dak · 05-31-2008, 12:26 PM

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(NEW) Cripple: Instant cast, no cooldown, cost 8% base mana, 30 yd range, effect: Cripples the target, reducing movement speed by 75%, pacifying and silencing the target. Cripple causes the target to be immune to physical attacks, but still be vulnerable to spells. Lasts 20 sec. Only 1 target can be crippled at a time.

what the FUCK. Course it will take something this OP to keep locks from being raped in pvp with all this new melee shit.

Antoine · 05-31-2008, 12:51 PM

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- Devastate: Removed, replaced by Cripple.
- (NEW) Cripple: Instant cast, no cooldown, cost 8% base mana, 30 yd range, effect: Cripples the target, reducing movement speed by 75%, pacifying and silencing the target. Cripple causes the target to be immune to physical attacks, but still be vulnerable to spells. Lasts 20 sec. Only 1 target can be crippled at a time.

I still haven't seen anybody point out this "devastate" that cripple is supposedly replacing. The only devastate I know is in the warrior prot tree.

dak · 05-31-2008, 01:04 PM

Devastate was a AoE that cast corruption max rank on all targets in the area and when it completed it had an additional 600ish dd component.

Antoine · 05-31-2008, 01:24 PM

That's Atrocity.

dak · 05-31-2008, 01:30 PM

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That's Atrocity.

Yeah, well that's the swap.

The Ancient · 05-31-2008, 01:31 PM

Maybe it's a mistake and Prot Warriors are getting that talent.

CabbitCabbit · 05-31-2008, 01:38 PM

Uh wow, as a ret pally our tree better be pretty fucking stellar if thats what DKs are getting.

Cybsled · 05-31-2008, 01:40 PM

I expect cripple to lose the silence. No way it would last 20s in PVP either.

As for the bubble nuke...GOOD. FUCK YOU STUPID PALADINS IN PVP WHO MAKE ME WASTE MY INSTANT COOLDOWNS!

Mythas · 05-31-2008, 01:47 PM

The silence perhaps has a 4 - 8 sec duration and the 75% snare perhaps the 20 sec, all speculation at this point. The no melee damage is something to consider as well. As most 3's and 5's comps run with melee damage included with magic dmg.

Erumaron · 05-31-2008, 01:58 PM

A 6 second CD on Circle of Healing?

bonanno · 05-31-2008, 02:01 PM

With Cripple having no cooldown, it'd still need to be changed. Is it possibly just a mob's spell?

Erumaron · 05-31-2008, 02:03 PM

TheCutlery · 05-31-2008, 02:32 PM

So, Warlock leveling = Cripple, kill mob at zero risk, move on.

Warlocks were really underpowered in the leveling department, I'm glad they got that buff.

05-31-2008, 01:04 PM	#35 (permalink)
dak Uhhhng Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: France Posts: 4,268	Devastate was a AoE that cast corruption max rank on all targets in the area and when it completed it had an additional 600ish dd component. __________________ Only Douche bags mess with the "Internets" points. RIP Spiderman-Troupe 2002-2008

05-31-2008, 01:38 PM	#39 (permalink)
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05-31-2008, 01:40 PM	#40 (permalink)
Cybsled Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 9,437 +16 Internets	I expect cripple to lose the silence. No way it would last 20s in PVP either. As for the bubble nuke...GOOD. FUCK YOU STUPID PALADINS IN PVP WHO MAKE ME WASTE MY INSTANT COOLDOWNS! __________________ Training the citizens of Norrath from 1999-2003!

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Erumaron Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 598	asfd Last edited by Erumaron : 05-31-2008 at 02:04 PM. Reason: i'm dumb

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05-31-2008, 12:14 PM	#32 (permalink)
Mythas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 279 -6 Internets	Even so you wouldn't cripple the focus target, you cripple the gd healers right after a fear for an unmitigated 6 or so seconds of pounding on a focus target. Since if they use a trinket it only removes the fear, leaving them silenced for the duration unable to dispell. Locks also got an immunity piercing spell that'll do around 1.4 - 1.8k dmg. Which means mages and paladins have to use block / bubble sooner than later else they may die from the damage. Basically with the extra talents and the swappage of SL and DS locks just got really fucking scary in pvp. Now they'll have access to IHOT / SL / SL / UA / basically all the oompf aff provides plus the added meat shileding of SL. Yes even though SL went down from 20 to 15% it still rocks in pvp. Oddly enough blizzard did nothing to change the current 3 class domination of 2v2's Locks / Wars / Druids. If anything they further cemented the predominance of those classes in that bracket. Wow pvp "lulz r not balanced around 2v2 nub" still doesn't mean warriors and druids can't auto recieve the newest seasons gear the easiest. Edit: Yes i understand the warrior can only WW in the zerk mode however its an all movement imparing effect dispell which provides A-fucking-mazing synergy to an already OP war / druid 2v2

05-31-2008, 01:24 PM	#36 (permalink)
Antoine Tells it like it is Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 596 -19 Internets	That's Atrocity.

05-31-2008, 01:47 PM	#41 (permalink)
Mythas Registered User Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 279 -6 Internets	The silence perhaps has a 4 - 8 sec duration and the 75% snare perhaps the 20 sec, all speculation at this point. The no melee damage is something to consider as well. As most 3's and 5's comps run with melee damage included with magic dmg.

05-31-2008, 01:58 PM	#42 (permalink)
Erumaron Registered User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 598	A 6 second CD on Circle of Healing?

05-31-2008, 02:01 PM	#43 (permalink)
bonanno Registered User Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 118	With Cripple having no cooldown, it'd still need to be changed. Is it possibly just a mob's spell?

05-31-2008, 02:32 PM	#45 (permalink)
TheCutlery 2k rating -- So easy a caveman could do it. Join Date: May 2003 Location: MN Posts: 1,556	So, Warlock leveling = Cripple, kill mob at zero risk, move on. Warlocks were really underpowered in the leveling department, I'm glad they got that buff.