The FoH forum AoC Guild Thread

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Actually, I picked this class long ago in beta, not after the latest FotM crap. And I did so to be a group healer, not some uber PvP ganker idiot. Considering my primary function these days is as PL'er for dozens of guildmates, I'm not too concerned about the class' OP'ness at this point (although I admit it's there, for sure).

That ToS sucked by the way, Draegan. I've never lost when ganked by a melee. Maybe he should learn the backwards-dodge (while keeping PBAEs pumping) and Active Blocking maneuvers. Oh, and that insta-stun, root, auto-crit Lighting Bolt, etc. are pretty cool, too.




P.S. And stop giving me +internets, damn it. I want to be the first to -50. I mean, how offensive and closed-minded does a guy have to be to get some recognition around here anyways?

[Braen]

Kegzilla and makata and a couple others have you beat on the -internets front my friend

[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

Actually, I picked this class long ago in beta, not after the latest FotM crap. And I did so to be a group healer, not some uber PvP ganker idiot. Considering my primary function these days is as PL'er for dozens of guildmates, I'm not too concerned about the class' OP'ness at this point (although I admit it's there, for sure).

That ToS sucked by the way, Draegan. I've never lost when ganked by a melee. Maybe he should learn the backwards-dodge (while keeping PBAEs pumping) and Active Blocking maneuvers. Oh, and that insta-stun, root, auto-crit Lighting Bolt, etc. are pretty cool, too.




P.S. And stop giving me +internets, damn it. I want to be the first to -50. I mean, how offensive and closed-minded does a guy have to be to get some recognition around here anyways?

I (conq) win vs tos if my charge one shots them, otherwise its not great odds... same vs pom... thankfully my charge almost always results in a insta kill.

I also doubt you will be first to -50, IRB is already at -39!

[Draz]

And who is IRB? So I can add to his negative internets

[Draegan]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

Actually, I picked this class long ago in beta, not after the latest FotM crap. And I did so to be a group healer, not some uber PvP ganker idiot. Considering my primary function these days is as PL'er for dozens of guildmates, I'm not too concerned about the class' OP'ness at this point (although I admit it's there, for sure).

That ToS sucked by the way, Draegan. I've never lost when ganked by a melee. Maybe he should learn the backwards-dodge (while keeping PBAEs pumping) and Active Blocking maneuvers. Oh, and that insta-stun, root, auto-crit Lighting Bolt, etc. are pretty cool, too.




P.S. And stop giving me +internets, damn it. I want to be the first to -50. I mean, how offensive and closed-minded does a guy have to be to get some recognition around here anyways?

1. I told you in a PM during beta how powerful healers were.
2. The TOS didn't suck. He didn't have a chance. From stealth, charge, stun, combo, CC-Immunity, stun, combo, dead.
3. Makata beat you to -50.

[Elsebet]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

One of your guildmates accidentally TAB-targeted me and hit me in the Swamp the other day while you were grinding on some animals. It's a good thing I was in a good mood and on my way to Keshatta to help grind up some guildies, or I'd have turned around and one-shot your entire group (all level 80 ToS can do that at will, you know).

Anyways, I'd chatted for a while with some of your gang weeks ago, since I remember most of them from the old Mid/Perc relic raid days (I sure do miss those relic raids). Damn nice folks. I'm pretty sure no one on this forum is interested in the quite hardcore RP of my guild, but I can't recommend Wolves of Valhalla highly enough.

Hah, I wish I knew your toon name, I'd say hello. Thank you for the kind recommendation.

Anyway we were just waiting for folks to show up to do Oasis, so our resident ToS decided to pass the time blowing up the local fauna. Grinded up 3 or 4 bubbles by the time they arrived, even with the huge level variance on those tigers.

Keshatta is so boring (but admittedly fast) in between the pvp scuffles and I prefer crawling dungeons myself so people get some gear.

[Pyros]

Can kill even a good ToS with a HoX, but you pretty much need every single cooldown and tricks you can use. Definitely doable though, phoenix cloak through the initial burst, then pressure to force a heal, then pop the strongest shit and finish the fight fast. Usually use normal demon form and try to land a burn to death with lots of breath, with fear to disrupt bursts and let potion/demon maws heal up, then when the big heal is on cooldown, I pop avatar, use AE root, and hit firelance+breath.

And there's the random barbarian coming up to you and cyclone of steeling IX you to death before you start tapping.

So yeah, ToS is good, but they're definitely killable. Was just trolling the thread though, crashed AGAIN, so was taking a break.

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by Pyros

Can kill even a good ToS with a HoX, but you pretty much need every single cooldown and tricks you can use. Definitely doable though, phoenix cloak through the initial burst, then pressure to force a heal, then pop the strongest shit and finish the fight fast. Usually use normal demon form and try to land a burn to death with lots of breath, with fear to disrupt bursts and let potion/demon maws heal up, then when the big heal is on cooldown, I pop avatar, use AE root, and hit firelance+breath.

And there's the random barbarian coming up to you and cyclone of steeling IX you to death before you start tapping.

So yeah, ToS is good, but they're definitely killable. Was just trolling the thread though, crashed AGAIN, so was taking a break.

Any ToS that stands around long enough to let a HoX pull all that shit deserves to die. None of your melee is going to land if I'm constantly double-tapping my "backwards" key, along with the occasional active blocking (or stunning you or rooting you if you appear overly competent and I need some range). My fully-talented PBAEs pulsing for 600 damage every two seconds is more than enough damage to kill you without me even needing to heal myself. If I see a HoX go demon form, I just hide and wait it out, then kill them. Not that it's necessary, but it removes any doubt from the PvP equation.

Again, I'm not proclaiming any skill on my part (I'm a slow, old fart), just replying to these random "I killed a ToS once!!!1" posts (and I'm in the wrong thread, I realize). Yes, ToS needs a nerf, most probably to the damage on the pulsing PBAEs. While they're doing that bit of nerfing, I'm sure they'll be working on Cyclone of Steel as well.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

Any ToS that stands around long enough to let a HoX pull all that shit deserves to die. None of your melee is going to land if I'm constantly double-tapping my "backwards" key, along with the occasional active blocking (or stunning you or rooting you if you appear overly competent and I need some range). My fully-talented PBAEs pulsing for 600 damage every two seconds is more than enough damage to kill you without me even needing to heal myself. If I see a HoX go demon form, I just hide and wait it out, then kill them. Not that it's necessary, but it removes any doubt from the PvP equation.

Again, I'm not proclaiming any skill on my part (I'm a slow, old fart), just replying to these random "I killed a ToS once!!!1" posts (and I'm in the wrong thread, I realize). Yes, ToS needs a nerf, most probably to the damage on the pulsing PBAEs. While they're doing that bit of nerfing, I'm sure they'll be working on Cyclone of Steel as well.

Well just saying, our ToS active block and tap a lot, and I can still land hits every now and then. The pulsing pbae definitely doesn't kill me, since I'll rarely stand in melee range of anyone until my combos are ready. When it hits me, 100 of it is absorbed through the shield. If the ToS is moving around to stick to me, it makes it hard for him to active block when I'll burst sprint to finish my combo at max melee range. You can also run them out of stamina, and breath should take care of doing enough of damage to force them to at least keep hots up, opening a few windows to land hits in(800dmg every 5secs, can go up to 1200 with demon form and so on). Depending on the opponent I might combine stuff differently, such as keeping all CC, then swinging my sword so the ToS goes active block, fearing him, then rooting him and hitting him with firelance before fear breaks, which prevent any tapping. Hell just rooting prevents any tapping I'm pretty sure. Quicksand is a non factor since I have a purge, so all I really have to watch out for when fighting a ToS is inner charge/vengeance of gods charging up, I have to phoenix cloak before they stun me and try to one round me during the stun.

Then again, I'd say I only win 30% of my fights against our guild ToS(and about 90% on everyone else, because they're all idiots who don't tap so the fight ends in 10secs flat). But it's still 30% more than what you said a melee would win ^^.

Well played ToS is one of the hardest matchup for me, along with cyclone of winz barbs(assuming I don't block it which results in instant death) and good necros(killing the pets with the slow hox combos, assuming you do hit the pets because of their stupid dodge, takes too long, necro can just summon a new one as you're doing the combo, you need to be lucky to have 2pets+necro all rooted in the same spot to have a good chance to win). Everything else is a high win % for me, but I don't believe I've played good players on every class yet. Like bear shamans, don't think I've seen even one good BS on my server.

[Surlok TP]

Recieved an E-Mail from Funcom with a bunch of community links and some other shit as well.

Sort of pertains to the guild aspects... Sorta =P


-The Apprentice Thing is getting changed to being no more than +20 levels, so the best an 80 could app up is a lvl 60 by my understanding so those of you who are looking to pl alts up or whatever need to get on the train asap.

- The pvp thing like the one shotting,they are doing some changes to the system, Some sort of implied resilience I assume to draw fights out a little longer? Or lessening the amount of damage a player does to a player. I think in focusing on siege warfare they want players to be a little bit more sturdy to focus more on the city assault than killing individual players.

-Power points? Buy feats,rare mounts, items shit like that with power points, turn them into power pearls (lol) and use them to augment gear. Power points come at a rate of one per week for accomplishing various tasks. Every week you are subbed, every time you would have gained a lvl at 80, every week that 100 unique guildies log in over the course of the week( um fuck you small guilds? Doesn't seem right), every week you have keep/battlekeep? Every 40 wins in a BG..

System won't be in place till mid july or something but the points start accumulating as of the day subs go in (surprise surprise)


-Bunch of other frivolous crap. Mostly the pvp shit already posted and the Kingship things...


I will admit I was expecting more of a push this week for content, yesterdays patch was good and all but there is a variety of things that are wrong, and while I won't assume I know what would be best put in now to increase subs, I expected something different than what they did on Monday. Either that or most box buyers didn't cancel their subs the moment they created the account and Funcom isn't worried about the sub rate come the 22nd or whatever it is. I know I'll sub because I am in a pretty cool guild and enjoy playing with the folks(even though it's currently not subbed),but I think if that wasn't the case I wouldn't have just on principle of releasing so much unfinished stuff. I would have thought quite a few people would have done the same in the hopes that they would push out a big patch in lieu of first sub day. Maybe I don't understand MMO's enough to make such a statement I dunno...

[Oblio]

Aei Desis has left the building.

[Cerin]

It's cool. I was slacking pretty hard.

Updated.

[Tyen]

Any 80s on Deathwhisper~

Send Tyene a tell

[Templor]

Originally Posted by Tyen

Requiem and I are playing on the Bluesteel server.

I'm on Bluesteel as well. I switched over from Moag or some shitty PVE server after a failed lvl 21 dt attempt. Playing a 41 ranger now named Fallows in the guild prime evil if anyone else is on here.

[Saidin]

Originally Posted by Templor

I'm on Bluesteel as well. I switched over from Moag or some shitty PVE server after a failed lvl 21 dt attempt. Playing a 41 ranger now named Fallows in the guild prime evil if anyone else is on here.

I play a 41 Ranger as well on Bluesteel named Saidin ... I was in SKUM ( Lol I know you have heard of them ) until I realized that they were douchebags ... I went in assuming it was the premier PVP guild... ehh

I'm stuck in Field of the Dead though, and getting sick of the game because of it.