AOC - General Discussion II

[Senen]

Originally Posted by Flight

Interesting read; thanks bud.


He has used the in game search function to get his data for that. That is FUBAR. Everyone knows its broken; you have absolutely no idea what % of people online you can actually find with it, but I do know I have never been able to find a single one of my friends using a class/level range search.

I know I'm still laughing if anyone thinks this is a legit way to take metrics there realy in need of some advanced math. Proper metrics even to get a snapshot of actual population would take weeks. Theres many variables that have to be considered besides just one. Which is what some random guy decides is prime time. Without covering a 24 hour period theres no way to even determine what prime time is for any given server. This just shows why random guessing fails at proving an argument. I'm sure no ones going to take the time to produce real results beyond some basic guess work.

[Necrolyte]

I don't think I ever said he was doing polls for me. He simply took 2 minutes to see how many people were on and told me. Is that really all you have to go on? It's pretty sad.

Oh well, at least Schatze had the decency to come back and admit I was right.

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Nope, but I had a friend get charged after he cancelled and he sort of continued where I left off.

I don't know about you, but this sounds like you are implying your friend continued your poll work.

Either way, it doesn't matter, I said active population was on a decline from the start, so I'm not sure why you are so defensive since my only qualm was what you were using for evidence.

[spronk]

a couple people asked, here is the AutoIT script you can run overnight to farm resources in the resource instances (frozen swamp, etc). Compile it as a exe (obfuscate if you want) and you can share with guildies who are too dumb to figure out autoIT:

$activeWin = WinGetTitle("")

while 1
	;$activeWin = WinGetTitle("")
	WinActivate("Age of Conan")
	;MouseClick("right",1000,550)
	MouseClick("right")
	;WinActivate($activeWin)
	Sleep(3*60*1000)
wend

(the commented out code lets you work in another window and the program will switch to conan once every 3 mins and start harvest and switch back, but its screen size dependent or you need to write some code to figure out the center of a variable-sized window, im too lazy).

You can farm 3-4g/hour if you are level 70 or higher by dragging the first boss of catacombs to the exploding barrels and exploding them, he drops 10s/run and you can kill him in under a minute. There's no maximum number of instances, just zone out, invite a friend, zone in, and instance is reset (drop group after you zone in). Of course no real reason to have any gold anyways, and the above AFK script lets you harvest 400 duskmetal/basalt/etc a night which will net you 5g+ a day.

oh if your tempest of set theres a nice bug that lets you mob farm easy. spec into puppet and the talent that lets you hit more targets. You used to be able to drop 20+ puppets, they nerfed that. You can still drop 2 however, and they do pretty good damage. The way I was grinding before I quit was simple:

1. find a spot with a ton of fast respawning mobs, preferably in clumps of 2-4. I never made it past 65, but in the 50s FoTD has great camps in sw and any of the vanir camps (the undead/wolf camps respawn fast). for 54-60 eliph mts have tons of camps, and 60-70 thunder river is great (cannibals in nw). melee works best, if the mobs are casters you need to drop the puppets near them.

2. start casting puppet, when the cast bar is 50% or higher start casting it again near the first drop. if you time it right, you will drop 2 puppets that last another 55 secs (play around with cast bar timing).

3. pop your hot and stormshield, and pull a camp of 3-4. you can either run around the puppets or just help kill shit faster by using lightning storm (stormfield is worthless imo). heal yourself whenever you drop below 60%. you want all the mobs to die at once, and they should in 10-20 secs, giving you a 3-4 chain kill (massive xp boost).

4. immediately heal/rest up and pull another camp to puppets, you can clear 2-3 camps by the time the puppets despawn. rest up, rinse and repeat. keep food (mana/health) buffs up on you always, and pot mana as needed.

You will be the fastest grinding class this way, its just amazingly boring. you really want the 4 chain bonus as much as possible, since it adds up quite a bit of extra XP. TOS's used to be able to get 10-15 chain kills, but they nerfed storm field.

[Clericnon2boxed]

think you mean idol of set, not puppet, yeah you can put down two if you are fast, can also get 2 cyclones faster up this way (skipping the recast timer)

helped bearing the nerf of stormfield and activeblocking

[TwiNCannoN]

problem with idols is by the time you're high enough to get both set's storm and 4 pts in idol you're nearly done leveling

[Flight]

Originally Posted by Senen

I know I'm still laughing if anyone thinks this is a legit way to take metrics there realy in need of some advanced math. Proper metrics even to get a snapshot of actual population would take weeks. Theres many variables that have to be considered besides just one. Which is what some random guy decides is prime time. Without covering a 24 hour period theres no way to even determine what prime time is for any given server. This just shows why random guessing fails at proving an argument. I'm sure no ones going to take the time to produce real results beyond some basic guess work.

I got a -1 internets for pointing out that anyone who used that to gather metrics would have to be a real dumb fuck. No idea who could find that a problem, looking at this thread

[Schatze]

Shrug I was able to find every single test subject I attempted to by searching their level range by deselecting all the search criteria.

[Seryne]

On a side note, T2 raids are actually really enjoyable. Some of the scripts still need tuning, and some are still broken. Last night we cleared the entire 2nd wing (the first wing boss is unkillable from a bug, at the moment).

I was actually suprised that it was as done as it is, but it no doubt still needs tuning. We actually had 4 GMs on tracking throughout the night, and one of them accidentally appeared mid-fight and another one accidentally trained mobs on us later.

[Cybsled]

We actually had 4 GMs on tracking throughout the night, and one of them accidentally appeared mid-fight and another one accidentally trained mobs on us later.

Heh memories of EQ. I remember Nag raids where he would do AE fear and suddenly a GM would appear because he forgot to turn on his immunity.

[Schatze]

Want to hit up T2 ASAP but our raid schedule and 4th of July sorta threw a wrench into that. Hopefully enough people will show on Saturday to get the teeth.

Anyone have links to T2 armor?

[Inconsiderable]

Is there a better way of farming gold than exploiting catacombs? 3.5g / h + gem drops + rare drops + silk drops is okay, but i'd like to speed my farming up.

[Northerner]

If you have a real server, farm or exploit farm t/s stuff. Otherwise, you are being an idiot making .01% of what is out there.

Shitty imo.

[Falmer]

Originally Posted by Inconsiderable

Is there a better way of farming gold than exploiting catacombs? 3.5g / h + gem drops + rare drops + silk drops is okay, but i'd like to speed my farming up.

Wondering the same thing, haven't tried the catacombs but making money "legit" way seems slightly impossible with the current state of economy (or what's left of it).

[Inconsiderable]

Catacombs:
Go in, disband your group (else you get less gold). Turn left to the casterboss, attack him once and run back to the explosive urn. When he is next to the urn hit it with timers (as tos i need vengeance of the gods or he survives the explosion with ~5% left - the damage of the urns depends on the damage you dealt), loot. Then take the melee mob right side, two urns in the same room. Pull him to one urn, explode it and if he survives use the second one. Loot again. Leave Catacombs, invite someone in your group, go in, disband group and repeat.
Both boss mobs drop 5-15s and killing both takes ~ 2:30. The mobs surrounding the urns also drop Silk, gems, blue rares ..

[TwiNCannoN]

I thought catacomb bosses hit you super hard now? I mean obviously since they're 50 you can survive a few hits but not much more than that. I never tried post-"nerf" though.

And I dunno if this has been fixed (if not that's pathetic but it doesn't really surprise me), but the "1 person in group 1 of a raid" shit was by far the fastest method

I don't even care enough to log in and do anything of the sort now though. My entire guild has mostly cancelled. I remember someone above said "when the bitching has stopped that's when you know the game is really in trouble". Well, I don't even care anymore so I guess I'm at that point.