AOC - General Discussion II - Page 328

Onte · 08-11-2008, 04:00 PM

I've stuck it out since release; our guild's remained solid since the getgo with only a 2 member loss since May. This morning, half of Hell seemed to break loose on the guild board about the state of the game. A lot of us seemed to reach the same level of boredom at the exact same moment.

We've been patiently overlooking the problems - hell, the ingame mail lost all of our T2 Keep mats and we spent a week dealing with their "customer service" to get them back (we did get them back). At the point we're at, staying on board is our own damn fault but I think I'm personally about done with it. We've got some people who want to hang on and wait for this to become the game they want - and I don't doubt that it will, but I'm sure as fuck not waiting around for 6-12 months for it.

I think it's too late for them to turn it around. There was too much wrong with it at release to instantly capture their audience and there's too much wrong with it now to gain many new subs. I think it'll go the way of EQ2: perpetually supporting 200k people and literally 2 inches away from awesome but never quite getting there.

Crafting is the most unrewarding shit I've ever experienced in a game other than feeding a fucking chocobo for 6 hours in FFXI. I wasn't sure anything would top that for me but AoC crafting did it. Let's group harvesting in there with crafting too - at least they finally added map markers for nodes. And whoever thought it was a good idea to allow one person access to the guild bank...I wish I knew where you lived. As convoluted as the UI is, it wouldn't surprise me if more than one person could and I never noticed it.

I could go on for another hour or so but I'm just going to leave it at that. The game has insane potential but that's not something you want to be telling your friends 3 months after release. That's more of a beta-esque type comment.

Tyen · 08-12-2008, 01:30 AM

If they don't fix/add more PVE raid content and make the stats on the pve tier 2 armor better than this game will fail easily.

Falmer · 08-12-2008, 03:07 AM

Have they patched in the pvp levels and armor yet?

Rhuobhe · 08-12-2008, 03:11 AM

ha-ha-ha-ha.

Gilgamel · 08-12-2008, 03:51 AM

I gave up the ghost today. I was going to wait until warhammer released, but at this point I can't even bring myself to do that.

Draegan · 08-12-2008, 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tyen

If they don't fix/add more PVE raid content and make the stats on the pve tier 2 armor better than this game will fail easily.

It hasn't failed already?

Drajakur · 08-12-2008, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Hatorade

Yeah the patching is what killed it for me. Here we are going to fuck this this and this up and give you nothing good in return. Well about 7 patches of that shit I was done. Giant fuck you by funcom.

If they just fixed Charge I think I would still be playing, instead they fucked with necros for 3 weeks.

Yup. This is pretty much why I quit after 1 month also. They seemed to have no fucking clue how to balance or patch the game without totally fucking things up. I tired of that pretty quickly and I just don't have 6 fucking months of my life to waste hoping a game gets decent.

Next!

Calroon · 08-12-2008, 07:24 AM

Same deal with every MMO coming out these days. They all just fail.
People who thought AoC would be a decent game just because it has
gore and tits are the same retards that figured out Vanguard being "decent".

Oh and while we're at it, Warhammer will be the next failure.
It's no rocket science figuring out why it's going to happen, is it.
Yea, thought so.

Dworkk · 08-12-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dworkk

Its a Funcom game , probbly end up like that POS Anarchy Online

I posted this on 6/19/2007 and got flamed for it. Haha

http://www.fohguild.org/forums/mmorp...tml#post760188

spronk · 08-12-2008, 08:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calroon

Same deal with every MMO coming out these days. They all just fail.
People who thought AoC would be a decent game just because it has
gore and tits are the same retards that figured out Vanguard being "decent".

Oh and while we're at it, Warhammer will be the next failure.
It's no rocket science figuring out why it's going to happen, is it.
Yea, thought so.

nah i disagree I think WAR will be great for the people really into PVP. It won't be a runaway multimillion subbie like WoW, because the number of people purely into PVP (and not burned out on MMOs) isn't as high, but for the people who really like that stuff its fun. Its a far, far better game than AoC in almost every way possible, except for visuals.

The problem is gonna be a year from now, when the subs are ~500k or so, and EA decides to start tinkering with it to make it "more PVE to get more subs", then that'll fuck things up. Cuz EA doesn't want a modestly profitable game, they want the next billion dollar game.

Tolanin · 08-12-2008, 09:13 AM

Problem with aoc wasnt that it was a shitty game from the ground up, problem was it was unfinished in the endgame and funcom did the worst possible job of fixing issues and getting an endgame in. I had a ton of fun for my first month in AoC. But after that you basically ran out of things to do and couple that with the worst patch cycle. They didnt focus on what they needed to focus on post release and the game is fucked because of it, they had a decent enough base to make a good game at release but the project management on the live team was prolly right up there with SWG for worst ever.

Inconsiderable · 08-12-2008, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spronk

Its a far, far better game than AoC in almost every way possible, except for visuals.

...beside the lame combat system, but people also play eve and I guess that means people dont really care about it and would be happy to pvp with a noninteractive random number generator for all I know. Oh yea and WAR is no real PvP game. Its a RvR game. Thats basicly PvP minus the good stuff.

Draegan · 08-12-2008, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Inconsiderable

Oh yea and WAR is no real PvP game. Its a RvR game. Thats basicly PvP minus the good stuff.

If you're not trolling, can you explain that?

Also WAR is better than AOC on the fact that it works and there is actual working content int he game.

Composter · 08-12-2008, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Draegan

If you're not trolling, can you explain that?

Also WAR is better than AOC on the fact that it works and there is actual working content int he game.

I think that means that it doesn't allow hardcore griefing, and that is the "stuff" of PvP.

Khane · 08-13-2008, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Composter

I think that means that it doesn't allow hardcore griefing, and that is the "stuff" of PvP.

Or the "stuff" of making a failure of a game.

People need to be playing the game to make the PvP fun. Hardcore griefing makes people log off or cancel subscriptions.

08-11-2008, 04:00 PM	#4906 (permalink)
Onte Registered User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Kansas Posts: 183 +0 Internets	I've stuck it out since release; our guild's remained solid since the getgo with only a 2 member loss since May. This morning, half of Hell seemed to break loose on the guild board about the state of the game. A lot of us seemed to reach the same level of boredom at the exact same moment. We've been patiently overlooking the problems - hell, the ingame mail lost all of our T2 Keep mats and we spent a week dealing with their "customer service" to get them back (we did get them back). At the point we're at, staying on board is our own damn fault but I think I'm personally about done with it. We've got some people who want to hang on and wait for this to become the game they want - and I don't doubt that it will, but I'm sure as fuck not waiting around for 6-12 months for it. I think it's too late for them to turn it around. There was too much wrong with it at release to instantly capture their audience and there's too much wrong with it now to gain many new subs. I think it'll go the way of EQ2: perpetually supporting 200k people and literally 2 inches away from awesome but never quite getting there. Crafting is the most unrewarding shit I've ever experienced in a game other than feeding a fucking chocobo for 6 hours in FFXI. I wasn't sure anything would top that for me but AoC crafting did it. Let's group harvesting in there with crafting too - at least they finally added map markers for nodes. And whoever thought it was a good idea to allow one person access to the guild bank...I wish I knew where you lived. As convoluted as the UI is, it wouldn't surprise me if more than one person could and I never noticed it. I could go on for another hour or so but I'm just going to leave it at that. The game has insane potential but that's not something you want to be telling your friends 3 months after release. That's more of a beta-esque type comment. __________________ WAR - Onte - Zealot - The Conclave - Badlands

08-12-2008, 01:30 AM	#4907 (permalink)
Tyen Ghost of Tyen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Cambridge, MA Posts: 2,318 +16 Internets	If they don't fix/add more PVE raid content and make the stats on the pve tier 2 armor better than this game will fail easily. __________________

08-12-2008, 03:51 AM	#4910 (permalink)
Gilgamel King Me Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rocky Top Posts: 1,502 -6 Internets	I gave up the ghost today. I was going to wait until warhammer released, but at this point I can't even bring myself to do that. __________________ Just an earthbound misfit, I

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08-12-2008, 03:07 AM	#4908 (permalink)
Falmer Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 255 -2 Internets	Have they patched in the pvp levels and armor yet?

08-12-2008, 03:11 AM	#4909 (permalink)
Rhuobhe all hail Rhuobhe Manslayer Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami, FL Posts: 357	ha-ha-ha-ha.

08-12-2008, 07:24 AM	#4913 (permalink)
Calroon Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 100 -1 Internets	Same deal with every MMO coming out these days. They all just fail. People who thought AoC would be a decent game just because it has gore and tits are the same retards that figured out Vanguard being "decent". Oh and while we're at it, Warhammer will be the next failure. It's no rocket science figuring out why it's going to happen, is it. Yea, thought so.

08-12-2008, 09:13 AM	#4916 (permalink)
Tolanin h8 Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 2,969 -21 Internets	Problem with aoc wasnt that it was a shitty game from the ground up, problem was it was unfinished in the endgame and funcom did the worst possible job of fixing issues and getting an endgame in. I had a ton of fun for my first month in AoC. But after that you basically ran out of things to do and couple that with the worst patch cycle. They didnt focus on what they needed to focus on post release and the game is fucked because of it, they had a decent enough base to make a good game at release but the project management on the live team was prolly right up there with SWG for worst ever.