AOC - General Discussion II

[sticktastic]

Ok I rolled on deathwhisper because I dig pvp, and I read somewhere on here alot of foh board peeps are there. Obviously im not 80 but id really like to get into a guild where people here are if at all possible, something to break the silence would be great, until I catch up. if anything like this is possible feel free to pm

[Lonin]

Any test patch notes yet?

[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by Lonin

Any test patch notes yet?

they dont do notes until they patch it to the pay for play test servers now.

[Lonin]

Originally Posted by Tolanin

they dont do notes until they patch it to the pay for play test servers now.

Awesome. Are they really that paranoid that they have to do it differently than virtually ever other MMO?

[painbringer]

News on the necro class:

The ability to hide while sending pets will be removed..

Aka. Have fun in pvp, or as re-animation spec.



PS: Drain pets is a bug, expect fixes tuesday.

[painbringer]

Originally Posted by Lonin

Awesome. Are they really that paranoid that they have to do it differently than virtually ever other MMO?

It's a question of damage control, they know they'll be taking some heat when they push out massive and untested blanket nerfs.

They need to be able to say.. "ooh, that was a bit much, here you have 5% back and this'n that thing is now 650% better" or they'd get bus-shock'ed on their forums.

If you give people a chance to whine before the patches even hits, it'd be a TON worse.


I expect patch notes and the test server to be better in a few months, when basic balancing is done. Also, their QA team seem to be 3 people with one of them the boss, so you got to admit they'r doing a decent job.

[Falmer]

From today's patch:

Combat

* Active blocking has been revamped to bring it back in line with the original design. Active blocking will now correctly display a buff in the debuff GUI to indicate the effect. You will now have an initial stamina cost upon activation and shielding bonus rather than evade chance. Attacks and heals performed while in “Active Blocking” will also have a reduced effect.

Interesting... haven't tested it in game yet, but it sounds better than the old one.

[Northerner]

The whole trend reminds me a great deal of AC2. Many interesting ideas, many overpowered classes (left to be overpowered for a long time) and with exploits (left again for a long time) followed by draconian nerfs in a vain attempt to bring it all back under control.


Hint: It does not work well.

I did love my Hivekeeper in AC2 though and my ToS in Conan was amusing too. At least AC2 made me feel bad for my thousands of vassals.

[painbringer]

Yes, it's fun being powerfull.. the same happened in city of heroes.
It's fun for a while.. so get in early and enjoy the getting while the getting is good.

Getting repeatedly sodomized does however reduce the fun.

Hopefully the next mmo will learn from the mistakes out there.

Gradual buffing is a TON better than massive nerfs. I wish they'd launch with what they got working and when in doubt, underpower spells/abilities.
While people are stupid, as long as they can see some classes getting upgrades, they can wait for their turn. And with that approach, you promise upgrades in the beginning.

Sure there'll always be a few nerfs, but for someone that just had a milllion specs where they could kill 6 mobs, getting reduced to where the good specs can take 3, that won't ever be fun.

They'll hate it every time they log in and re-roll at best.

[Flight]

26/06 Update notes :

26th of June - Update Notes - Age of Conan Europe Forums

[Kobalt]

Originally Posted by Falmer

Interesting... haven't tested it in game yet, but it sounds better than the old one.

Pretty big tos nerf unless the heal and damage reduced is small.

[Kobalt]

oops

[Mippo]

Heh TOS probably abused it moreso then most, but it's definately not a nerf related to TOS. Everyone could use it and take advantage in dungeons / raids and it gave casters a pretty big advantage in PVP.

On one of our Yakhmar raids where I pulled agro, I was able to tank him for over 4 minutes as a Ranger until I eventually lost agro. I'm pretty sure that isn't intended.

[Flight]

I think I found the reason why ToS are coming so high in parsing atm.


i) ToS are critting at a rate of 18-20% in raids, where Demo crits at a constant 3-4%

ii) Healers get feats to not only crit more but also to do increased damage when they crit - a Demo crit will typically be 1.5 x damage while a ToS crit will be 2-3 x damage.

[Kobalt]

Originally Posted by Mippo

Heh TOS probably abused it moreso then most, but it's definately not a nerf related to TOS.

There wouldn't be the damage and heal nerf if it wasn't a nerf for tos imo(passive hots and stormfield/stormcrown). They used active blocking the most because they needed it to lvl.