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Falmer · 06-23-2008, 02:58 AM

Just finished downloading patch and still no patch notes?

wat

Flight · 06-23-2008, 03:53 AM

Major Necro nerfs. Shitstorm inc.

Necro findings - 6/23 - Age of Conan Europe Forums

Falmer · 06-23-2008, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flight

Major Necro nerfs. Shitstorm inc.

Necro findings - 6/23 - Age of Conan Europe Forums

Thank god.

Kobalt · 06-23-2008, 04:15 AM

Well it seems tos's finally got a ae nerf...

But they buffed their single target damage.

Pyros · 06-23-2008, 04:30 AM

From a quick glimpse at the whinning, they nerfed AE for everyone, but boosted single target damage? Or at least for ToS and necro, but I guess everyone else will follow. Sounds pretty ok to me(even though I play a necro). Gonna check if I can still solo yhakmar since I need those stupid pants still, waiting for the patch notes.

Inconsiderable · 06-23-2008, 04:58 AM

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I hope they bring back cooldown on lightning strike. That change is so fucking stupid that I could stab the retard who did this to our class.

Seriously if they have too many necro and tos players that could just cancel their subscriptions themselves instead of fagging the game up like this. Oh I can feel the nerdrage.

Flight · 06-23-2008, 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Inconsiderable

Petition: Bring back cooldown on LS! - Age of Conan Europe Forums

I hope they bring back cooldown on lightning strike. That change is so fucking stupid that I could stab the retard who did this to our class.

Seriously if they have too many necro and tos players that could just cancel their subscriptions themselves instead of fagging the game up like this. Oh I can feel the nerdrage .

roflmao @ the first reply to that post.

Quote : Should not it be "bring back the AoE to our only real AoE spell"? Now even the demo has A LOT more AoE spells than us.

Fuck me, a Wizzie AE class doing more AE than a Priest; surely they've got this wrong ?

MY 80 Demo tool tips are unchanged as far as damage is concerned; not had a chance to test it yet. I can't comment on ToS, I don't know them well enough, but Necro was stupidly OP, especially PSS.

Gilgamel · 06-23-2008, 05:39 AM

Heh, I almost bought the 30g bag yesterday, but today they increased bag space. Huzzah!!

Pyros · 06-23-2008, 05:40 AM

Well necro was heavily nerfed, I'm definitely not doing the last 2levels on him until a further buff.

See, it was definitely OPed in the AE, but nerfing all the AEs widely without buffing anything to balance it is just plain stupidity. Especially since necros single target was already pretty much the lowest in the game. It's on the level of a def stance guardian(without positioning, so a tad better I guess). It's a good change for PvP, and I actually asked for AE nerfs, but I didn't expect them to nerf AEs without thinking of what would become of the AE classes. I don't know about ToS, one of our ToS said it wasn't all that bad for PvP(but leveling was shitty or whatever). I do know about necros though, and these changes are pretty much retarded.

Oh and it's nice seeing 3feats changes which are totally useless because they increase totally worthless spells. Chill is now AE, and Frost Blast now does more damage, fucking great, if I could actually land frost blast on anything but a stationary target right in front of me.

P.S.: This mostly affects PvP, for single target PvE, necro is actually pretty good, assuming stationary targets and chain casting rotations+melee pets.

Falmer · 06-23-2008, 06:20 AM

+internets to anyone who can find patchnotes, what the fuck is funcom thinking?

Pyros · 06-23-2008, 06:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falmer

+internets to anyone who can find patchnotes, what the fuck is funcom thinking?

They couldn't get patch notes up on the test server for a week, I doubt they'll get them anytime soon. Not like it matters much, a lot of people have found out most of the class changes, the only thing that might go unnoticed is them fixing random quests and shit(but not arena it seems).

Gilgamel · 06-23-2008, 06:29 AM

I don't understand what is so hard about making gems, silk, etc searchable on the trader. By the time they are available all the random idiots are going to know which ones are actually valuable.

TwiNCannoN · 06-23-2008, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falmer

+internets to anyone who can find patchnotes, what the fuck is funcom thinking?

Until failcom posts them, this is probably your best bet... actually considering they hardly document shit, krazy's undocumented patchnotes are usually your best bet anyway. :P

Undocumented Patch Notes 6/23 Compilation - Age of Conan Forums

Leviathan · 06-23-2008, 06:38 AM

Yeah, official patch notes would be nice. The main thing I was looking forward to is the Alchemy fix, more bag space is nice though.

Flight · 06-23-2008, 06:40 AM

Patch notes not up yet but a dev has posted necro changes :

As there are many threads and it seems that comments can easily be lost in the many threads.

AoE Damage Modifications
Parasitic Soul Swarm and Unholy Hands were dealing significantly more damage than similar spells and rebalanced to do the correct damage for AoE-based spells.

Similarly, the Archmagus pet was dealing roughly 25% higher base damage than intended and was lowered. This was a decrease of roughly 25% without feats, and 20% with feats. This is also in line with other AoE effects in the game.

Despoil the Soul
As was mentioned previously, the change made is an increase to the effectiveness of this spell compared to the previous mechanic. The decreases in damage mentioned above and from other sources are not due to this change, but due to other changes or issues. This mechanic will not change as it more accurately reflects the intended DPS increase of the feat when compared to DPS from each pet point.

However, we will be looking at the duration of Despoil the Soul in order to make it less of a burden to keep active.

Siphon Unlife Issues
We are aware of a code issue that is causing Siphon Unlife damage dealt to pets to scale with bonus magical damage. This is unintended and will be fixed soon.

Damage Coefficients
There was a data issue that has resulted in some spells, specifically Lifestrike and Flesh to Worms, not gaining the new damage bonus from +magical damage. This will be corrected in the next patch. (Lifestrike will gain 65% of your bonus magical damage instead of 11% as currently being used.)

Other Adjustments Coming
We will continue to review the damage to make sure that Necromancers are doing the target DPS at given levels. It is intended for Necromancers to be a competitive damage class at the top levels of DPS. Spells will continue to be adjusted until this the class is performing at the correct levels.

Additionally, melee pets will deal splash damage very much like normal melee attacks. This change will come in the one of the next couple code updates.

This thread will be updated with additional comments if needed. Thank you.

General Roundup of Necromancer Patch Issues - Age of Conan Europe Forums

06-23-2008, 04:58 AM	#3876 (permalink)
Inconsiderable the princess approves Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 694 -5 Internets	Petition: Bring back cooldown on LS! - Age of Conan Europe Forums I hope they bring back cooldown on lightning strike. That change is so fucking stupid that I could stab the retard who did this to our class. Seriously if they have too many necro and tos players that could just cancel their subscriptions themselves instead of fagging the game up like this. Oh I can feel the nerdrage. Last edited by Inconsiderable : 06-23-2008 at 05:04 AM.

06-23-2008, 05:39 AM	#3878 (permalink)
Gilgamel King Me Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rocky Top Posts: 1,502 -6 Internets	Heh, I almost bought the 30g bag yesterday, but today they increased bag space. Huzzah!! __________________ Just an earthbound misfit, I

06-23-2008, 06:29 AM	#3882 (permalink)
Gilgamel King Me Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Rocky Top Posts: 1,502 -6 Internets	I don't understand what is so hard about making gems, silk, etc searchable on the trader. By the time they are available all the random idiots are going to know which ones are actually valuable. __________________ Just an earthbound misfit, I

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06-23-2008, 02:58 AM	#3871 (permalink)
Falmer Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 255 -2 Internets	Just finished downloading patch and still no patch notes? wat

06-23-2008, 03:53 AM	#3872 (permalink)
Flight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 610 +9 Internets	Major Necro nerfs. Shitstorm inc. Necro findings - 6/23 - Age of Conan Europe Forums

06-23-2008, 04:15 AM	#3874 (permalink)
Kobalt Registered User Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 845 +12 Internets	Well it seems tos's finally got a ae nerf... But they buffed their single target damage.

06-23-2008, 04:30 AM	#3875 (permalink)
Pyros Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,631 +24 Internets	From a quick glimpse at the whinning, they nerfed AE for everyone, but boosted single target damage? Or at least for ToS and necro, but I guess everyone else will follow. Sounds pretty ok to me(even though I play a necro). Gonna check if I can still solo yhakmar since I need those stupid pants still, waiting for the patch notes.

06-23-2008, 05:40 AM	#3879 (permalink)
Pyros Registered User Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,631 +24 Internets	Well necro was heavily nerfed, I'm definitely not doing the last 2levels on him until a further buff. See, it was definitely OPed in the AE, but nerfing all the AEs widely without buffing anything to balance it is just plain stupidity. Especially since necros single target was already pretty much the lowest in the game. It's on the level of a def stance guardian(without positioning, so a tad better I guess). It's a good change for PvP, and I actually asked for AE nerfs, but I didn't expect them to nerf AEs without thinking of what would become of the AE classes. I don't know about ToS, one of our ToS said it wasn't all that bad for PvP(but leveling was shitty or whatever). I do know about necros though, and these changes are pretty much retarded. Oh and it's nice seeing 3feats changes which are totally useless because they increase totally worthless spells. Chill is now AE, and Frost Blast now does more damage, fucking great, if I could actually land frost blast on anything but a stationary target right in front of me. P.S.: This mostly affects PvP, for single target PvE, necro is actually pretty good, assuming stationary targets and chain casting rotations+melee pets.

06-23-2008, 06:20 AM	#3880 (permalink)
Falmer Registered User Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 255 -2 Internets	+internets to anyone who can find patchnotes, what the fuck is funcom thinking?

06-23-2008, 06:38 AM	#3884 (permalink)
Leviathan Slayer of Waffles Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 137 +0 Internets	Yeah, official patch notes would be nice. The main thing I was looking forward to is the Alchemy fix, more bag space is nice though.

06-23-2008, 06:40 AM	#3885 (permalink)
Flight Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 610 +9 Internets	Patch notes not up yet but a dev has posted necro changes : As there are many threads and it seems that comments can easily be lost in the many threads. AoE Damage Modifications Parasitic Soul Swarm and Unholy Hands were dealing significantly more damage than similar spells and rebalanced to do the correct damage for AoE-based spells. Similarly, the Archmagus pet was dealing roughly 25% higher base damage than intended and was lowered. This was a decrease of roughly 25% without feats, and 20% with feats. This is also in line with other AoE effects in the game. Despoil the Soul As was mentioned previously, the change made is an increase to the effectiveness of this spell compared to the previous mechanic. The decreases in damage mentioned above and from other sources are not due to this change, but due to other changes or issues. This mechanic will not change as it more accurately reflects the intended DPS increase of the feat when compared to DPS from each pet point. However, we will be looking at the duration of Despoil the Soul in order to make it less of a burden to keep active. Siphon Unlife Issues We are aware of a code issue that is causing Siphon Unlife damage dealt to pets to scale with bonus magical damage. This is unintended and will be fixed soon. Damage Coefficients There was a data issue that has resulted in some spells, specifically Lifestrike and Flesh to Worms, not gaining the new damage bonus from +magical damage. This will be corrected in the next patch. (Lifestrike will gain 65% of your bonus magical damage instead of 11% as currently being used.) Other Adjustments Coming We will continue to review the damage to make sure that Necromancers are doing the target DPS at given levels. It is intended for Necromancers to be a competitive damage class at the top levels of DPS. Spells will continue to be adjusted until this the class is performing at the correct levels. Additionally, melee pets will deal splash damage very much like normal melee attacks. This change will come in the one of the next couple code updates. This thread will be updated with additional comments if needed. Thank you. General Roundup of Necromancer Patch Issues - Age of Conan Europe Forums