AOC - General Discussion II

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by TwiNCannoN

Anyone have feat build advice for leveling up a necro?

What I did, and worked pretty fine, and also seems the common build.
First you put points in reanimation, the goal is to get Unholy Hands, you take various stuff on the way, what exactly doesn't matter too much. Avoid the frenzy feat because it doesn't do half of what it says, go for the stuff that ends up on +evade%, skip most of the one pointers along the way they're all pretty terrible. Once you have unholy, you go general tree, down to quickened iron, so you don't die every pull you get 3mobs. On the way I took Archmage(since they moved it), which while not great, proves to be remotely useful since I can add gelid bones to my dps rotation with maximum dmg, and thought I might need blizzard for group AEing.

Once you're done, you have a few choices. I got mirrored iron because I had good experiences with it on my hox, but it doesn't seem as good with necro because since it's cold dmg, and you do have a cold school, you get pretty random damage, while hox would always get max value. I went for purge for pvp, and I checked the range on unleashed power, and it SEEMS it might affect parasitic swarm(on top of the stuff listed), making it decent. At least after I had it, I was hitting polearm mobs hitting me, while before they'd be out of range.

Anyway, once that's done, you go back to reanimation. You take fillers and stuff, until you can take the cabal/corpse explosion line. You also get the thing to remove the cost on your dread archmage, and then you hit 65, use the pet, and just AE everything

Another way would be to respec nightfall despoil the soul at erm, 61 or 62 whatever it is when you can max it, and do a mage type char, sacrificing your pets for more damage.


That's what I could gather from my 2days or so of reading various boards, and my own experience. Sadly since I've been powerlvled heavily, I haven't got first hand experience on like, lvl 40-50content at intended level. I got to 63 in 2days, 3 if I count getting the char out of tortage ^^.

[heel]

Originally Posted by Pyros

What I did, and worked pretty fine, and also seems the common build.
First you put points in reanimation, the goal is to get Unholy Hands, you take various stuff on the way, what exactly doesn't matter too much. Avoid the frenzy feat because it doesn't do half of what it says, go for the stuff that ends up on +evade%, skip most of the one pointers along the way they're all pretty terrible. Once you have unholy, you go general tree, down to quickened iron, so you don't die every pull you get 3mobs. On the way I took Archmage(since they moved it), which while not great, proves to be remotely useful since I can add gelid bones to my dps rotation with maximum dmg, and thought I might need blizzard for group AEing.

Once you're done, you have a few choices. I got mirrored iron because I had good experiences with it on my hox, but it doesn't seem as good with necro because since it's cold dmg, and you do have a cold school, you get pretty random damage, while hox would always get max value. I went for purge for pvp, and I checked the range on unleashed power, and it SEEMS it might affect parasitic swarm(on top of the stuff listed), making it decent. At least after I had it, I was hitting polearm mobs hitting me, while before they'd be out of range.

Anyway, once that's done, you go back to reanimation. You take fillers and stuff, until you can take the cabal/corpse explosion line. You also get the thing to remove the cost on your dread archmage, and then you hit 65, use the pet, and just AE everything

Another way would be to respec nightfall despoil the soul at erm, 61 or 62 whatever it is when you can max it, and do a mage type char, sacrificing your pets for more damage.


That's what I could gather from my 2days or so of reading various boards, and my own experience. Sadly since I've been powerlvled heavily, I haven't got first hand experience on like, lvl 40-50content at intended level. I got to 63 in 2days, 3 if I count getting the char out of tortage ^^.

Unholy Fortitude is actually pretty good, as it gives your pets more health to fuel Siphon Unlife, and it lets them live longer if you fight things by hiding and letting your pets tank. I think the general tree - as a whole - is pretty terrible at this point. With the mana cost fixes that went in last patch, you don't run out of mana and don't need the mana regen talent. You don't cast frost spells so you don't need Archmage. Quickened Iron and some sub-par cooldowns are all that the tree has to offer and they're just not worth it.

Personally, I would go to Unholy Hands first, then get one point in Mark of the Devourer, then finish out Reaninmation, then finish out Nightfall. The (very good) cookie cutter spec looks something like this: hybes.org - age of conan database

[IruleYcauseImSweet]

*Edited for problem is fixed

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by heel

Unholy Fortitude is actually pretty good, as it gives your pets more health to fuel Siphon Unlife, and it lets them live longer if you fight things by hiding and letting your pets tank. I think the general tree - as a whole - is pretty terrible at this point. With the mana cost fixes that went in last patch, you don't run out of mana and don't need the mana regen talent. You don't cast frost spells so you don't need Archmage. Quickened Iron and some sub-par cooldowns are all that the tree has to offer and they're just not worth it.

Personally, I would go to Unholy Hands first, then get one point in Mark of the Devourer, then finish out Reaninmation, then finish out Nightfall. The (very good) cookie cutter spec looks something like this: hybes.org - age of conan database

I read that unholy fortitude was bugged and didn't work at all besides the frenzy cast reduction, someone testing with pets tanking stuff with and without it or something. If it does work then yeah it's good, I guess I might have to try it with a friend or something.

I usually like the general tree stuff, especially purge and unleashed power, but that's as a HoX, I'll probably unspec them tomorrow and see how it works out without any points in general tree, since I'm getting the new cool pets at 65. I've trained a few random feats for the last 10levels or so, like I did on my hox, lets me test random stuff and see.

One sure thing I have to do that's not in your template though, is take One with Death until at least 70, since now that I'm almost 65, I'm gonna be powerlvling my friends rerolls in atzel, I'm the main AE so I'll need 2 pets asap. Anyway I'll decide on my template alone once I hit 80 like I did with HoX, and feats depends a lot on the other classes in your group and your own playstyle imo. For example that's why I didn't have AE stun on my HoX, doesn't work well with 4 ToS with their unbreakable stuns, and DT AE stun, while purge is pretty godly when you get the melee assist train pretty much everytime because you charge people first(with a DT but no one ever attack people with shields anyway ^^)

[TwiNCannoN]

Sounds good, thanks guys. Finally started my alt necro heh. Man grinding rules also, totally skipped all tortage quests and just grinded in acheronian ruins. 4 hours to 20... not too shabby.

Originally Posted by Flight

Talking about Cyclone of Steel, Barbs need fixing. Cyclone of Steel is bugged in that sometimes getting later ranks of it doesn't overwrite earlier ranks in the skill book. The thing is they don't share a common cooldown, so you can spam it.

Given the DPS feat tree is largely based around improving Cyclone of Steel, its very OP.

If you get ganked by it count how many times its hit you.

It's so obnoxious in pvp. The only way out of it is to stun the barb if you see it coming, right? So they pop brutality (I think that's it, +50% fatality chance) and hit you with Cyclone of Skill... it skips all the hits and just chops your head off immediately.

[heel]

Originally Posted by Pyros

I read that unholy fortitude was bugged and didn't work at all besides the frenzy cast reduction, someone testing with pets tanking stuff with and without it or something. If it does work then yeah it's good, I guess I might have to try it with a friend or something.

I usually like the general tree stuff, especially purge and unleashed power, but that's as a HoX, I'll probably unspec them tomorrow and see how it works out without any points in general tree, since I'm getting the new cool pets at 65. I've trained a few random feats for the last 10levels or so, like I did on my hox, lets me test random stuff and see.

One sure thing I have to do that's not in your template though, is take One with Death until at least 70, since now that I'm almost 65, I'm gonna be powerlvling my friends rerolls in atzel, I'm the main AE so I'll need 2 pets asap. Anyway I'll decide on my template alone once I hit 80 like I did with HoX, and feats depends a lot on the other classes in your group and your own playstyle imo. For example that's why I didn't have AE stun on my HoX, doesn't work well with 4 ToS with their unbreakable stuns, and DT AE stun, while purge is pretty godly when you get the melee assist train pretty much everytime because you charge people first(with a DT but no one ever attack people with shields anyway ^^)

Yeah, I'm actually getting One With Death while leveling (instead of the threat thing, which will probably be better in raids at 80) - after the hide thing is fixed, though, it's probably gonna suck.

[Mippo]

Heh so I had some gold lying around and decided to purchase advanced riding assuming it came with new horse abilities like they advertised.......

Paint me surprised but NOTHING new with advanced riding. Maybe they mean to implement stuff later but it isn't in game yet.

[Tolanin]

Originally Posted by Mippo

Heh so I had some gold lying around and decided to purchase advanced riding assuming it came with new horse abilities like they advertised.......

Paint me surprised but NOTHING new with advanced riding. Maybe they mean to implement stuff later but it isn't in game yet.

next patch basic riding wont give any skills any more and all those skills will be for advanced.. stil fucking useless but

[Chaotic]

Just posting up to say that i really couldn't find anyone to play with and pretty much lost interest. Sat at 25 for about a week now.

Not sure if other people are feeling this way, but I know alot of people said "give it a month and we will see the subscribers"

Well, i'll get around to cancelling soon enough.

[Rhym]

Only Necro Feat options are the one necrolyte linked or tossing in general tree and going something like 41/16/21. I like the general tree but now like he said you don't have mana issues, the +dmg feats aren't that good but i really like the mitigation. The class is so squishy. Many classes can 1-2 shot me.

[Caocao]

Originally Posted by Chaotic

Just posting up to say that i really couldn't find anyone to play with and pretty much lost interest. Sat at 25 for about a week now.

Not sure if other people are feeling this way, but I know alot of people said "give it a month and we will see the subscribers"

Well, i'll get around to cancelling soon enough.

I got to 35 my self on my assassin, the class is extremely painful to play in pve. I'm sure some shit heads will come in here and tell me how much I suck, but it just isn't fun. All good I enjoyed a different pace for the time I played so don't regret any thing.

[TwiNCannoN]

Originally Posted by Caocao

I got to 35 my self on my assassin, the class is extremely painful to play in pve. I'm sure some shit heads will come in here and tell me how much I suck, but it just isn't fun. All good I enjoyed a different pace for the time I played so don't regret any thing.

Assassin is basically the worst you can do in PVE leveling right now so you certainly have a right to be frustrated.

+1 Neriak avatar!

[Caocao]

Originally Posted by TwiNCannoN

Assassin is basically the worst you can do in PVE leveling right now so you certainly have a right to be frustrated.

+1 Neriak avatar!

<3

[Jabberwhacky]

Just in the past few days, something reminded me of Neriak, those pictures and the secret rooms, and I was totally going to bump an EQ thread to ask about them, whether or not they ever served a purpose. But then I didn't.

[Caocao]

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

Just in the past few days, something reminded me of Neriak, those pictures and the secret rooms, and I was totally going to bump an EQ thread to ask about them, whether or not they ever served a purpose. But then I didn't.

All those rooms and no purpose, if only we could gather all the developers and stream all their ideas that didn't get materialized, 'O the fun we would have.

(Anti de-rail)
I've seen a bit of discussion about pve, but how are the raids? Are they simple spank and tanks atm, and if you can (some guilds won't allow strats to be handed out), could some of you give us some break downs on some of the funner fights. I'm hoping they're not all EQ style, even a simple gimmick would make it kinda cool.