AOC - General Discussion II

[Rhym]

I guess i should recheck out Ghelid. Before when we had the mana issues it was utterly not worth the mana cost but now I have trouble running out of mana. Still without the talented snare i cant see much use altho i like the short cast time for pvp.

[Vehn]

Originally Posted by Tolanin

it doesnt seem like stats being fixed is gonna be some huge increase.. the non epic gear doesnt even have much of those stats. Vistrix seems tested to me, its just the classic case of them inviting retards to be the raid testers and then being surprised when good guilds kill stuff faster. He is prolly easier than the first versions of like onyxia or whatever but mostly just because the raids are smaller and there isnt a resist gear grind.

The whole shenangians with them flagging nightmares asylum for T2 raids and no one else is just funny as hell to me.

what shenanigans is this?

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by Steamrice

heh found this interesting considering stats aren't working, feats aren't working, class balances are out of whack, and 80s dungeon loot comes out as " " except for the epic drops. Obviously Vistrix wasn't even tested.

Nothing in this entire game post-40 (and many things otherwise) was tested at all prior to release. Have you read this thread at all?

At least the game is gorgeous and fun to crank up the graphics settings and wander the world after you hit 80. Guild cities and the RP setting are definitely the biggest draw for me, although the PvP is pretty fun (but my ToS is certainly overpowered and anybody above saying otherwise either has talents that don't work - like half of them - is a newbie, or is lying).

[DJk_zero]

Originally Posted by Rythonn

Still nothing about the missing parts for Alchemy, I don't get what is so hard about putting the 3 items in the fucking game. Somewhere anywhere but god damnit put the shit in the game.

If it's the tier 1 parts, they drop off the group instances adjacent to the resource zones, but only in a lvl 40 - 49 seed.

[Elerion]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

Nothing in this entire game post-40 (and many things otherwise) was tested at all prior to release. Have you read this thread at all?

Since you obviously mean this literally, you're wrong.

[Necrolyte]

Originally Posted by Grumpy Old Fart

Nothing in this entire game post-40 (and many things otherwise) was tested at all prior to release. Have you read this thread at all?

At least the game is gorgeous and fun to crank up the graphics settings and wander the world after you hit 80. Guild cities and the RP setting are definitely the biggest draw for me, although the PvP is pretty fun (but my ToS is certainly overpowered and anybody above saying otherwise either has talents that don't work - like half of them - is a newbie, or is lying).

I'm not lying when HoX, Barbarians and Guardians can 1-round me during the duration of their stun/KB

[Spontaneous Cumbustion]

ummm...do HoX's get a stun or knock down? My friends 50 doesn't have one at any rate.

And Guardians shouldn't be able to do that anymore.

[Lost Ranger]

Yes HoX's get a AE stun. It happens (with feats) when they turn into a demon.

[Necrolyte]

Originally Posted by Spontaneous Cumbustion

ummm...do HoX's get a stun or knock down? My friends 50 doesn't have one at any rate.

And Guardians shouldn't be able to do that anymore.

Note I said Guardians after the Overreach nerf still can. Just not with Overreach, it's called Stunning Charge + Flashing Arc IX.

HoX can feat a stun that triggers when they turn into a demon, guaranteed kill on a ToS/PoM/whatever if the stun goes off.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Necrolyte

Note I said Guardians after the Overreach nerf still can. Just not with Overreach, it's called Stunning Charge + Flashing Arc IX.

HoX can feat a stun that triggers when they turn into a demon, guaranteed kill on a ToS/PoM/whatever if the stun goes off.

At 80 I can hardly one round people anymore without burning every single cooldown, and even then it's not a 100% one hit. Only classes I one hit reliably are demos and necros(when I can actually hit necros instead of being feared/looking for them). I can hit them quite fucking hard, but it's definitely not a one hit. I also don't spec for the stun so I can get purge and avatar, which imo is a better rounded spec than taking shit feats in possession to get an AE stun that breaks on your own pulsing fire damage once you're morphed. The only good feat deep in possession is phoenix wings, and it's the only thing I miss.

Aside from that, I haven't been taken under 50% in one combo by any guardian, frenzy or not, since they nerfed overreach. They can take me to like, 40% with TWO combos, at which point they die anyway since they're sitting in frenzy and my burn to death is ticking for 850 or some retarded amount like that. I don't see how they can kill anyone that has better armor and a shield in one hit when they can't even scratch me.

Barbarians I won't comment, cyclone of steel is a one shot for pretty much everyone. Assuming I have contract of protection up, and a tos/pom hp buff, I might survive with like 100-300hps left(maybe 1k if I'm in avatar), but they can finish me on the next round of directional attacks due to high autoattack dmg with DW. If they're using a 2h, they'll die easily though. Funny how barbarians changed from annoying CC to instant kills with no CC at 80 ^^.

[Clericnon2boxed]

Which side does cyclone of steel hit ? maybe adjust your shields to that side if you know you are going to face one.

[Rythonn]

Originally Posted by DJk_zero

If it's the tier 1 parts, they drop off the group instances adjacent to the resource zones, but only in a lvl 40 - 49 seed.

Scorp Oil, Scorp Venom, and Yeti Bile are nowhere to be found. I have done all the daily instances and killed every yeti in the gave many many times. The shit does not exist. If you have seen these please let me know. I don't know anyone who has.

[Itzena]

Originally Posted by Steamrice

heh found this interesting considering stats aren't working, feats aren't working, class balances are out of whack, and 80s dungeon loot comes out as " " except for the epic drops. Obviously Vistrix wasn't even tested.

Seriously, did Funcom learn anything from AO other than "Make sure your servers don't melt on launch day" ?

Players will always finish content faster than the designers think.
Players will always figure out when mechanics are broken, and how to use that brokenness to their own advantage.

This is the sort of fundamental stuff similar to "The client is in the hands of the enemy" and so on that should be engraved into ten foot tall gold tablets at every MMOG designer in the entire world.

[Falmer]

Umm, feel a bit retarded asking this, but has anyone managed to increase the mouse speed? It's too slow for my taste but I can't seem to find a godamn option for that anywhere.

[Necrolyte]

Originally Posted by Pyros

At 80 I can hardly one round people anymore without burning every single cooldown, and even then it's not a 100% one hit. Only classes I one hit reliably are demos and necros(when I can actually hit necros instead of being feared/looking for them). I can hit them quite fucking hard, but it's definitely not a one hit. I also don't spec for the stun so I can get purge and avatar, which imo is a better rounded spec than taking shit feats in possession to get an AE stun that breaks on your own pulsing fire damage once you're morphed. The only good feat deep in possession is phoenix wings, and it's the only thing I miss.

I don't know enough about HoX to comment, but the only time I have died to one is when they feated the stun on Demon form, and then landed a combo. I forget what the combo is right now but I have quite a few screenshots/logs of it. If the HoX doesn't do this combo, I can always emergency heal as soon as the stun fades and then proceed to probably win.

Aside from that, I haven't been taken under 50% in one combo by any guardian, frenzy or not, since they nerfed overreach. They can take me to like, 40% with TWO combos, at which point they die anyway since they're sitting in frenzy and my burn to death is ticking for 850 or some retarded amount like that. I don't see how they can kill anyone that has better armor and a shield in one hit when they can't even scratch me.

Guardians can 1-shot me at with Stunning Charge + Flashing Arc IX 100% of the time. The minimum damage it outputs on me is 4500, which is way over my HP.

Barbarians I won't comment, cyclone of steel is a one shot for pretty much everyone. Assuming I have contract of protection up, and a tos/pom hp buff, I might survive with like 100-300hps left(maybe 1k if I'm in avatar), but they can finish me on the next round of directional attacks due to high autoattack dmg with DW. If they're using a 2h, they'll die easily though. Funny how barbarians changed from annoying CC to instant kills with no CC at 80 ^^.

Yeah this one-shots me obviously