AOC - General Discussion II

[Drajakur]

Here is my partially drunk assessment of current AoC classes. Based on a bunch of bullshit forum reading, playing the game, hearing people bitch over general chat, listening to all the patch moaning and complaining, personal bias, etc. etc.

A: Tier One Awesome (no hierarchy)
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PoM, ToS

B: Tier Two Good (the lower you go, the more you approach suckdom, but the differences here are marginal between each sub-tier). All decent at what they do to a greater or lesser extent.
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Barb Guard (post Overreach nerf) Conq
Ranger
BearSham Necro HoX
DT

C: Tier Three Fucking Picked This Class Fuck Me I Fucking Suck And Need A Buff Or To Be Fixed (no hierarchy)
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Demo, Ass(asin)
Ass(asin)
Ass(asin)

Have fun in Tortage fuck face!

[Amnesiac]

My gut would be to roll a Necro, but I have always wanted to give a priest a try. PoM sounds enticing, I just never want to be playing a healer for those times when I'm playing and I should be asleep and I pass out at the keyboard...

About 80% done on the install...although I'm sure there is a healthy patch waiting for me after that. Dunno if I'll get on tonight, but just want to have a character created to come home and give this a go tomorrow. I guess I'll burn this one down and see what class I end up picking. Think I will do the necro...is there a patricularly crucial duo set of classes in the game? My lil brother has been playing WOW and I might try to get him into AoC if I end up getting into it.

[Tuco]

At 80 in PVP:

Tier 1: TOS/POM/Necro/HoX
Tier 2: Guardian/ranger/demo/Barbarian
Tier 3: Bear Shaman/Conquerer/Dark Templar/Assassin

[Vehn]

<3 my tos! 10 second stun every 2 min that doesn't break on dmg ftw

[Amnesiac]

Thanks Tuco. What server are you / anyone else on? I'm sure I'm quite behind the leveling curve, but I am decent at putting in some serious xp sessions if I get into the game. I'm feeling the necro, I'm faded, and this NBA finals game is insane...looks like I got about 10 minutes left to patch. After this game goes final I will log in, hope I get lucky on a server. I know the forum guilds do not have a high success rate, not looking to guild just group...but if anyone is in the 7-12 pm est playtime who is competent / chill / etc and has a toon on a good server or knows a good server to get some grouping going on that would be sweet.

Also, I know I will get the PvE carebear hate, but I really do like me some PvE in terms of endgame. Is this developed at all yet? Is the end game very PvP centric? Hate to show the noobness but honestly just bought this on a whim and don't know much yet. Again, thanks for any feedback.

[Tuco]

Anyone who is anyone is on Deathwhisper.

[Jabberwhacky]

The endgame isn't anything centric. There's a smidgeon of PvP (primarily fighting off XP camp campers) and a dash of PvE. There's a thread somewhere around here specifically for people stating what server they're on...go back a page or two and you can probably find it. I'm on Doomsayer, but I'm not guilded, I haven't even really picked one char, still meandering between a 35 HoX, 27 Conq, 22 DT and an occasional reroll to try out some of the caster classes.

[Amnesiac]

Necro...Deathwhisper...Amnesiac if it's available...be on in a couple. Any huge racial benefits?

EDIT: Wow, LA is fucking pathetic. In now!

[Goliath]

Seriously, how do I /who people. My 20 ToS is on Deathwhisper, didn't even realize.

[Vatoreus]

You use the search for people function at the top left.

[Amnesiac]

Well I'm on Deathwhisper as a level 1 Necro...gonna get some munchies then fuck with this noob island for a couple hours. If anyone is looking to group in the future shoot me a tell (or whatever they're called in this game), hopefully I will be able to get the ball rolling on xp during the weekend.

[Tuco]

You can message Heals, Midna or Brual in game if you need some help/have some questions.

[Rythonn]

Originally Posted by Necrolyte

Demos have more CC available, both single-target and AE. Gates of Hell for example is a root that can last up to 8-13s single-target, and doesn't break easily on damage while also dealing 300 damage/s. Demos also have AE Roots, etc.

Demo CC

Fiery Torment - get at lvl 45
Cast time - 1 second
Duration - 5.5 seconds
Recast - 60 seconds
Effect - Stun and feels like it last 3 seconds.

Storm Chains - get at lvl 10
Cast Time - 2 seconds
Duration - 17 seconds
Recast time - 25 seconds
Effect - Single target Root, if feat'd can do considerable damage around 250/s

Gates of Hell - lvl 60 feat
Not sure on specifics since I am havoc but similiar to a feat'd Storm Chains, but doesn't break as easy.

Wicked Bolts - lvl 50 feat
Cast Time - instant
Duration - Knockback
Recast - 40 seconds
Effect - single target knockback

Thunderclap - lvl 60 feat
Cast Time - Channeled
Duration - 10 seconds
Recast - 40 seconds
Effect - A cone damage spell that does damage every 2 seconds and has a chance to knockback. The chance is pretty low though so i really would consider this a reliable CC.

Hands of the Underworld - get at lvl 50
Cast Time - 1 second
Duration - 10 seconds
Recast - 120 seconds
Effect - Ae root 4m around caster and increased run speed 30%. The root breaks very easily and I have never seen it last longer then 4-5 seconds I believe the duration is for the enhanced run speed and not the root length.

While we do get a variety of single target cc we have one reliable AE cc and it is just a get the fuck out of here cc. Basically you go havoc get a damage root that breaks easy and KB spell or you go Conflag and get a damage root and no KB.

[Falmer]

Originally Posted by Necrolyte

What does me being a ToS have to do anything? They are actually fairly balanced in end-game L80 PvP, and Group PvP. Have you played one at this level?

Not to be such a trolling faggot, the combat definitly has a lot of depth, it's very complex and it has tons of potential, but in the end, due to the melee mechanics, it looks retarded and (imo) plays retarded. Then again, all 3 classes I played were melee, and seeing you're a ToS, it's understandable that your view is quite different.

Reading comprehension, you paranoid ToS. Couldn't care less about class balance this early (although being this defensive about any misunderstood hint about the class being strong sure makes it look balanced).
And saying level cap group pvp isn't stupid - somehow, magically, at level 80, people aren't swinging into the air, then running to someone and waiting for the combo to cast while the attacked person is already meters away with their health dropping? Yeah...

[DJk_zero]

Conqueror is one of the most useless and broken classes in the game right now. At least before they were chain res FI bots, but now they can't do anything. rofl