AOC - General Discussion II

[Kobalt]

Originally Posted by Lonin

They keep throwing out minor tweaks that don't change the fact that both of those classes are massively overpowered.

I guess every nerf is a minor tweak when you don't play the class.

[Shots]

Originally Posted by Surlok TP

I can't believe they are apologizing for a two patch a week cycle, most people would be glad if they patched every god damn day. We have spent and will spend a week with the broken double buffing system. No other game would allow that shit regardless of it's age. Are these guys that fucking retarded?

This. Who's the idiot in charge that thinks they need to apologize for a two patch cycle? I'd love the shit out of some day-to-day patching atm just to get some fucking bugs out of this game. I enjoy the game but GODDAMN this double-buff icon shit is killing me (play a HoX and forget your shield is down).

[Lonin]

Originally Posted by Kobalt

I guess every nerf is a minor tweak when you don't play the class.

I don't care what you call it. They are just cutting the top off of a problem that has far deeper roots. If you are insinuating that PoM/ToS aren't overpowered, well I don't know what to say to that.

No, McQuade isn't working on the game, he's just comparing the two management styles I suppose.

[Rythonn]

Originally Posted by Shots

This. Who's the idiot in charge that thinks they need to apologize for a two patch cycle? I'd love the shit out of some day-to-day patching atm just to get some fucking bugs out of this game. I enjoy the game but GODDAMN this double-buff icon shit is killing me (play a HoX and forget your shield is down).

Press Alt-z

[Falmer]

Originally Posted by Rythonn

Press Alt-z

Neat trick, thanks for the tip, made my life much easier.

[Duppin]

Meh, I still can't settle on a damn class.

[Lost Ranger]

Originally Posted by Duppin

Meh, I still can't settle on a damn class.

Heh, been in the same boat. I am currently going back and forth between HoX and Ranger and I am still not sure which I plan to stick with as my main. I think I am leaning more towards HoX just because the play style is different and the Ranger can get pretty boring while PVEing.

If you want a class is can be challenging, but rewarding when done right I would suggest the HoX. If played well they can be monsters, but it seems pretty easy to suck at one as well.

[Duppin]

My first character was a HoX; it's just too squishy for my taste.

I might try a PoM or ToS, I've been avoiding them due to the OPness but maybe I shouldn't.

[Lost Ranger]

I wouldn't avoid them just because they are OP. They are due for some nerfs no doubt but the classes themselves are pretty fun (I got a pom to the 30s) not just the OP part. Take away their insane AE abilities and you still have a fun class. Just not a demi god

[Talineth]

Originally Posted by Duppin

I might try a PoM or ToS, I've been avoiding them due to the OPness but maybe I shouldn't.

Yeah you should definitely get on in while the gettin's good.

[Clericnon2boxed]

Maybe someone can help me out with this:

I used waypoints to mark all the ressource nodes I can find, then yesterday after logging in, for a short time (like until I died on purpose to shortcut travel) I saw ressource nodes on my zone map with colors and exact descriptions.

I found no zonemap related options, are they hidden somewhere ?, have some people no problem with this and see those ressource symbols on their map all the time ?

BTW: I dont feel ToS is OP at all, at least not in the first 40 levels, PvE wise my guardian is miles ahead and for PvP well having a tiny amount of hp is not exactly helpful. (I tend to run around solo, there lies the problem ?

maybe someone can explain the OPness of ToS, cause I sure as hell get beat down extremely fast

[Necrolyte]

Originally Posted by Clericnon2boxed

Maybe someone can help me out with this:

I used waypoints to mark all the ressource nodes I can find, then yesterday after logging in, for a short time (like until I died on purpose to shortcut travel) I saw ressource nodes on my zone map with colors and exact descriptions.

I found no zonemap related options, are they hidden somewhere ?, have some people no problem with this and see those ressource symbols on their map all the time ?

BTW: I dont feel ToS is OP at all, at least not in the first 40 levels, PvE wise my guardian is miles ahead and for PvP well having a tiny amount of hp is not exactly helpful. (I tend to run around solo, there lies the problem ?

maybe someone can explain the OPness of ToS, cause I sure as hell get beat down extremely fast

People just brush PoM and ToS with the overpoweredness labels, but really they are overpowered only in PvE. In PvE, ToS/PoM are by far the best levelers, and this will be nerfed.

In PvP, don't expect anything too different, they are fairly balanced as is, and people just don't understand what a ToS does, and don't understand how easily 4 of the classes can one-round the ToS.

[Flight]

Originally Posted by Necrolyte

People just brush PoM and ToS with the overpoweredness labels

I don't know much about ToS, except what I have read, but I know the PoM and Demo quite well. PoM pushes out as much DPS as a Demonologist (the 'Wizard' class). On top of that :

i) they get to wear light armour vrs cloth;

ii) one of their HoTs procs every time they get hit and the other procs an AE DoT - so within a couple of seconds of their cast cycle they have their two main healing spells cast on themselves without losing any DPS;

iii) they get AE knockback and stun;

iv) they get an Invuln spell;

v) one of their main DD spells procs an AE heal;

vi) feats that considerably increase their crit chance and other feats that considerably increase the crit damage;

vii) they get enemy melee and resist debuffs.



Theres more, but the bottom line is they are seriously OP and everyone knows it. Putting out as much spell DPS as the main spell dd class, who have nothing else to offer in PvP or PvE, is just nuts. As I said, I don't know much at all about ToS but PoM wants hitting hard with the nerf bat.

[Necrolyte]

Originally Posted by Flight

I don't know much about ToS, except what I have read, but I know the PoM and Demo quite well. PoM pushes out as much DPS as a Demonologist (the 'Wizard' class). On top of that :

i) they get to wear light armour vrs cloth;

ii) one of their HoTs procs every time they get hit and the other procs an AE DoT - so within a couple of seconds of their cast cycle they have their two main healing spells cast on themselves without losing any DPS;

iii) they get AE knockback and stun;

iv) they get an Invuln spell;

v) one of their main DD spells procs an AE heal;

vi) feats that considerably increase their crit chance and other feats that considerably increase the crit damage;

vii) they get enemy melee and resist debuffs.

Theres more, but the bottom line is they are seriously OP and everyone knows it. Putting out as much spell DPS as the main spell dd class, who have nothing else to offer in PvP or PvE, is just nuts. As I said, I don't know much at all about ToS but PoM wants hitting hard with the nerf bat.

Demos do more damage at L80 by quite a bit.

Demos can get a 13-second CC that deals 250 dmg/tick.

Demos can feat a damage shield that absorbs damage, ~100 per hit, up to 1500+ damage (forget L80 numbers, so these are L60-70 numbers).

Things aren't as bad as you think, the closer to 80 you are.

[Dashal]

This game makes me feel like a total newb. I'm sure there are ways to do all the things I want but it's like pulling teeth to find them all.

So here's my newb questions:

1. How do I get more inventory space? Are there banks other than the trader? Is there a vendor to buy bags? I tried looking on the trader but didnt see anything. Are there even more bag slots? I'm forever destroying things and running my ass to the nearest trader.

2. Food and drink. Ok so food I get, I see a nice little buff icon and the food has stats listed on it usually. Yay. Drink though I cant seem to figure out. Things like Feywater I drink and seems like nothing happens. Then I'll eat a grapefruit and I get the little green buff thing. I'm playing a Conq if that's relevant, no mana bar. Am I meant to keep up food/drink buffs?

3. The zones seem so disjointed to me. Is there a preferred spot to bind that's fairly centrally located? Not that I even know how to bind ...