AOC - General Discussion II

[Lost Ranger]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

And lotro/eq2/vg/etc..etc...nowhere to be found. Hoho!

It'll be definitely interesting to see what happens to AoC subs whenn WOTLK comes out though. If it can weather that storm it may actually have the ability to keep growing in numbers instead of dwindeling off like all others.

I don't think it is going to be as bad as you think. Just like AoC is not as bad for WoW as people think because ALOT of people are perfectly ok with having more then one MMO sub at once. I have played 2 MMOs at the same time for years and prefer to do so now because when I don't want to farm in one game I can do something in the other. I know around here MMOs are like football teams and people get all defensive and shit if you support one and not another but I plan to play both AoC and WOTLK.

AoC will give me the type of PVP I prefer instead of WoWs mini-game shit and WoW will deliver on PVE in a way I am sure AoC won't. So in this case it will be the best of both worlds. The focus of the end game is different so in a way they go perfectly together. Just like DAoC and EQ back in the day, they go hand in hand really. $30 a month is nothing and will provide unlimited enjoyment.

[Elerion]

Originally Posted by Twobit Whore

Which is basically what I said. Blood Fever offers a damage boost (that is unneeded really when soloing) at the cost of healing (which is needed when grouping) and to use it to it's fullest you have to aspect dance on top of everything you listed plus 4-5 button combos, heals, runes, manifestations, utility spells and more.

No, what you said was, and I quote "You could always swap it for RoS which sucks, or Blood Fever which is no better.". It doesn't suck, you just think it's a pain to use. And it isn't even that painful to use compared to most the other shit we do, but yes it is one more thing to worry about. If you can't find situations in groups where dps matters more than healing, you need to look harder. And it's obviously hot balls in PvP.

The class is good in theory but way too carpal tunnelly in practice. And not only that, but even playing it balls out with rapidfingers you still only end up 'average' on the scale of power compared to other classes. Or you can just roll something much less user-intensive and be just as effective or more.

This is true.

[Zehn - Vhex]

Originally Posted by Lost Ranger

I don't think it is going to be as bad as you think. Just like AoC is not as bad for WoW....

It's funny you say that because that's what I had been saying about WoW and EQ2 way back when. I was convinced that EQ2 would be the superior PvE game and WoW the PvP game (back when they were talking about siege engines being in at release and etc...)

Funny how that turned out.

I'm just hoping AoC proves to be a fun open world siege game since this is one aspect WoW definitely needs to embrace and improve upon in it's own design.

[Terial]

What to do if you have a horse on a PVP server....

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Terial

What to do if you have a horse on a PVP server....

We may have to bust out the breaking news thread....

[Daezuel]

Funcom really jacked pvp this last patch, wtb non perma fear/perma snares...

[Terial]

i'm on PvE so i don't get to see this crap too often

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Terial

i'm on PvE so i don't get to see this crap too often

I don't expect people to read these boards as much as I do but that vid has been posted at least once on the past 4 pages..So yes breaking news worthy after that.

[Shots]

Originally Posted by Troll

Keep crying. Until you see the shitfest that is HoX itemization you have nothing to complain about.

That's no joke. Running instances, I have yet to roll 'need' on any of the loot. I'm only 52 so far, but I'm not looking forward to watching tons of weapons and armor pass my screen while trying to upgrade my WHITE 2H sword that I just keep upgrading by buying vendor weapons. Or my greens that I'm wearing from levels 20 thru 30.

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Shots

That's no joke. Running instances, I have yet to roll 'need' on any of the loot. I'm only 52 so far, but I'm not looking forward to watching tons of weapons and armor pass my screen while trying to upgrade my WHITE 2H sword that I just keep upgrading by buying vendor weapons. Or my greens that I'm wearing from levels 20 thru 30.

Shots you haven't done the tombs off of FoTD quest for that awesome blue 2hander? Good until 60ish I think.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Shots

That's no joke. Running instances, I have yet to roll 'need' on any of the loot. I'm only 52 so far, but I'm not looking forward to watching tons of weapons and armor pass my screen while trying to upgrade my WHITE 2H sword that I just keep upgrading by buying vendor weapons. Or my greens that I'm wearing from levels 20 thru 30.

There's plenty of green 2h weap after 40. Blue is another story, besides troibaech tomb(fotd instance) quest, I believe there's none, or at least I haven't seen any.

Considering items do nothing or close to anyway, it doesn't matter. Greens are good enough, combos are scaled on level only. Armor is ok, just use assassin stuff, lots of stamina and/or hp, just avoid the hiding ones, but there's plenty of good gear that couldn't really get any better.

[Shots]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

Shots you haven't done the tombs off of FoTD quest for that awesome blue 2hander? Good until 60ish I think.

We went to Tombs a few levels back and the boss ate us alive (AOE poison I think). So, I haven't been back there yet. Some time this week or weekend hopefully.

Originally Posted by Pyros

There's plenty of green 2h weap after 40. Blue is another story, besides troibaech tomb(fotd instance) quest, I believe there's none, or at least I haven't seen any.

Considering items do nothing or close to anyway, it doesn't matter. Greens are good enough, combos are scaled on level only. Armor is ok, just use assassin stuff, lots of stamina and/or hp, just avoid the hiding ones, but there's plenty of good gear that couldn't really get any better.

Is the assassin stuff without gems still good? I know gems are screwed at the moment, so I wouldn't touch a crafted item with a gem to save my life. I just looked and all my gear is either level 36 or 40. So, I was off a ways but I'm only wearing what I have because it has +stamina, +natural stamina regen or +constitution.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Shots

We went to Tombs a few levels back and the boss ate us alive (AOE poison I think). So, I haven't been back there yet. Some time this week or weekend hopefully.



Is the assassin stuff without gems still good? I know gems are screwed at the moment, so I wouldn't touch a crafted item with a gem to save my life. I just looked and all my gear is either level 36 or 40. So, I was off a ways but I'm only wearing what I have because it has +stamina, +natural stamina regen or +constitution.

That's assassin gear, and before we know how damage works at all, or if HoX is even based on str, or int because they're a mage class, and how much each affects damage on combos and so on, stamina/con/hp are the only stats worth anything.

I have no trouble killing 3 lvl 80mobs at 78 at the same time without any specific cooldown(breath hellstrikes breath, rest every 2pulls for 5secs, or just drink a lvl 60pot). I'm using entirely green quest reward armor with stam/hp, and a green 2h sword with 30magic fire damage(because it looked better than the other swords I found ^^).

No one knows exactly how stuff works, so worrying about gear is useless. When wow started, itemization was terrible too, +spell dmg didn't even exist, and every single item that was at release got changed TWICE in the first 6months. My first char was a warlock, and I was destroying everyone because I was geared entirely on greens of stamina and was running around with 6-8k hps.

The way gear LOOKS is a whole another issue though, they're "fixing" this, but well currently it's annoying. I mean, it's not bad for me, I use some ninja like clothes, so I don't mind(screen: ImageShack® - Image Hosting.

There are far more important issues than itemization to fix imo. Like fixing broken feats. It's stupid that I had to test MYSELF all my feats to find out which were bugged(not enough high levels posting their finds). Especially when a good 20% were either broken, or vastly useless. A 60dmg proc on my 1.5k attacks is NOT worth 5points in the second to last tier ^^.

[Jaded]

The way gear LOOKS is a whole another issue though, they're "fixing" this, but well currently it's annoying. I mean, it's not bad for me, I use some ninja like clothes, so I don't mind(screen: ImageShack® - Image Hosting.

That's an awful masculine looking female you got there.

I just wish my assassin didn't look like a Cirque du Soleil reject right now. He looked his coolest by far straight out of Tortage.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Jaded

That's an awful masculine looking female you got there.

I just wish my assassin didn't look like a Cirque du Soleil reject right now. He looked his coolest by far straight out of Tortage.

By masculine you mean I don't have giant boobs? ^^. I like my char, even though I'd probably remake some stuff if I could. Like hair because of various bugs with helm styles and HoX morphing.