Aion - The Tower of Eternity

[Vinen]

At 39 I was making 500+ a day barely even trying. I don't understand why people complain about money in this game.

[Morsakin]

Making kinah is simple no doubt, just making enough to buy decent gear in an inflated economy is where the problem lies. The cheapest 40 blue sword I can find on azphel is running 10 million. Grinding klaws on krotan rock provides decent cash flows, but not on that level unless I want to bankrupt myself. As a non crafter 40 Templar I've got a little over 5 million on me at the moment.

[k^M]

seems like botting would be such an easier solution if they allowed opposing factions to just farm said bot locations. Die fuckers!

[nu_11]

Looking forward to buying this game w/free shipping for $15 (or less) soon!

[AladainAF]

The people who managed to expert tradeskills before the rush and can sell gold items to gold buyers are probably rich off their asses now.

Yep. If I sell my latest gold shield on the broker, I'll break 100,000,000 kinah.

Blue costs don't seem too horribly off at least on my server of Ariel

Not to bust your bubble, but if you're making items for a craft that already has an expert doing the same thing, you'll make no money at all with blues, or at best marginally.

Where you CAN make money as handi/weaponsmith while NOT being expert is make the level 33 Weapons into worthy nobles (or the handi equivalent). An expert can buy those and upgrade it to expert and resell it for relatively low cost. While you're more just feeding them, you can sell for a profit and that helps. Same with 38/43/etc.

The cheapest 40 blue sword I can find on azphel is running 10 million

If its crafted.. its not as inflated as you might think.

A level 40 crafted EXPERT sword (Expert Durable Adamantium Sword) requires you to make:

- Crit a Durable Adamantium Sword attempt into a Noble Durable Adamantium Sword.
- Crit that Noble Durable Adamantium Sword into a Worthy Noble Durable Adamantium Sword
- Take the Worthy Noble Durable Adamantium Sword and combine it into an Expert, possibly critting a gold.

Thats a lot of risk and time, considering that there is a 15-20% chance of a crit. You will likely have to craft about 20 Durable Adamantium Swords to get 5 Nobles. Then out of those 5 nobles, you might get a Worthy Noble.

For Armorsmithing (I'm well versed here, being 449), its EASIER than Weaponsmithing, though we still use a boatload of components.

Take the level 45 shield. In order to make that, I need the following:

723 Orichalcum Ore x 425 kinah = 307,275
723 Active Carbon (Refining) x 1,210 kinah = 874,830
278 Orichalcum Acid (Plates) x 2,299 kinah = 629,122
5 Expert Superb Armor Flux x 300,000 kinah = 1,500,000
6 Pure Aether x 12,000 kinah = 72,000
9 Pure Orichalcum Ore x 20,000 kinah = 180,000

Total COST per attempt: 3,563,227 Kinah

It takes about 2 hours of my time to do all that refining, plates/etc. I sell my blue shields for 2.6 million (950k loss). I sell my gold shields for a whole lot more generally making up loss from blues.

[Intox]

Sell me your gold shield at vendor price kthx.

<3 Bricktop

[Inconsiderable]

Originally Posted by Morsakin

Making kinah is simple no doubt, just making enough to buy decent gear in an inflated economy is where the problem lies. The cheapest 40 blue sword I can find on azphel is running 10 million.

The economy is fine. People are simply trying to rip people off before prices go normal. Cleric Stigma/Spellbooks on our server were insane. Even the shitty ones Now you get the same stuff for 400k and its getting lower every day.

Just wait und dont be a retard and pay millions for something that you dont use on 50.

[Morsakin]

No worries on that, no item is worth blowing my entire load on at 40, I'm doing just fine with my green +1 40 sword; that and I typically am never without monitor steaks, crit scrolls and the like to help make up for it.

Think I'll start paying the gf to level crafting while I'm not on, lol...

[Vekruul Shuth]

AladainAF, you wouldn't be Crazycat on Marchutan would ya?

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by Vekruul Shuth

AladainAF, you wouldn't be Crazycat on Marchutan would ya?

No, I'm Vexacion.

[Jadn]

Did you stop making chain? I never see anything of yours on the broker anymore after your initial batch.

I may be in the market for the level 43 chain chest piece - I'll send ya a pm tonight.

[AladainAF]

Originally Posted by Jadn

Did you stop making chain? I never see anything of yours on the broker anymore after your initial batch.

I may be in the market for the level 43 chain chest piece - I'll send ya a pm tonight.

Chain recipes dried up hard core at 43. I am lacking several pieces. I have all of the 43 plate except the BP. I do not have the 43 chain BP yet. If you get the recipe, I'll do a combine of the BP for free for you.

I have all of the 38 Chain recipes.

I don't make pre-43 stuff much anymore because I ran out of mats and refuse to pay 350k a piece for the 33 fluxes. The 38 stuff doesn't sell (Its inferior to the 33; I disenchanted more that half of the blues that I made), and I'm lacking 43 recipes. In fact most people are shocked that I don't even wear any expert armor except the 33 boots. I only wear worthy green adamantium stuff heh. I'm gonna refresh my gear at 40 though.

[Jadn]

I'll keep a look out for the 43 recipes then, but I've only seen a handful drop and its usually for cooking.

[Diatribe]

Really did enjoy the game, but after getting my Gladiator & Cleric into the 25+ lvl range and taking a look at the exp requirements for 30-40, I about gagged, but thought perhaps it'd be worth it. Then I saw 40-50. Had to walk away from the keyboard when I saw that as it appears that someone shit in my pants.

Anyways, it's fun, sure. A grind, sure. I didn't want to have 100% lvling through questing alone (remember I'm an old EQ1 player), so grinding out mobs was a welcome change. But ultimately when I got L2 flashbacks, I said "Fuckit" and canceled. I hear they're talking about upping the quest exp & mob kill exp, but that doesn't change the fact it's still an insane grind that helps to suck the life out of most North American people's desires to play the game.

[AladainAF]

On a bright note, I think people are misunderstanding a huge aspect of the 1.5.1 patch notes concerning fortress defense.

Preliminary patch note that everyone is flipping out reads:

1. You now receive contribution decorations as reward for successfully defending a fortress under the control of your Legion.
- Gold and silver contribution decorations are issued as a reward.
- The number of contribution decorations you receive for defending a fortress increases as you move from lower layer to upper layer to the deepest layer. (Lower - Contribution decorations issued as rewards are delivered to the mailbox of the Brigade General of the Legion occupying the fortress.

This has been interpreted that NC is changing it so that only the legion that owns a fort gets medals if its successfully defended against.

As it is today, if you are in control of a legion, you still do not get medals on a successful defense unless you have earned them (And anyone can earn them that participated in the defense). This change, at least I believe, is just saying that everyone in the legion is guaranteed medals (That get mailed to the Brigade General), in addition to the medals awarded as they do today.