Aion - The Tower of Eternity

[Grumpy Old Fart]

Originally Posted by Kreugen

Lich King is a massive improvement in the quest grind if only because the entire time I was leveling I rarely had more than 10 quests in the log. There's no "grab 25 quests in one town that send me all over the fucking place" It's do 3-5 quests that take me to one spot, that lead to 3-5 more nearby, and so on. It was VERY well done in most areas. If you play 1-80 the improvement is obvious. 1-60 quests are pretty painfully gay by comparison.

They still like to tell you to bring 10 of x instead of killing 30 of y, though. I really don't give a shit as long as the time involved isn't mostly travel.

Now working on my fourth character from 70-80, this is certainly true. Sometimes, however, the new "don't make the player run very far to complete a quest" philosophy of Blizzard's is almost a bit contrived. So many quest areas have "Please go kill our mortal enemies" quests where the quest mobs you have to kill are like fifty yards away from the quest giver.

Granted, Blizzard did pack a ton of entertainment and quests into a relatively small area in Northrend, but it does strain the vaunted "suspension of disbelief" that these games require if you're attempting any sort of immersion. At least Blizzard appears to have read forums like this one, where we all obviously hate the "Go get me ten bear asses, and only one in fifty bears has an ass" quests, since the drop rate for most quest items seems to be >50% for nearly everything in WotLK, and I've probably done >80% of all WotLK quests by now.


EDIT: And I hope Aion comes out a few months after Dragon Age, since I know we all want to finish that one up first.

[Lyenae]

Originally Posted by Draz

Its ok Lyeane is on the slow side. You have to explain everything to him/her VERY slowly, before it sinks through.

There's nothing to explain. You shouldn't praise companies for implementing the obvious.

[Ninen]

Originally Posted by Pyros

Because most games don't, obviously.

I really don't see a problem with Bears not dropping "intact pristine ass" every time, as long as they *at least* drop "mangled unusable ass" those times they don't. And/or there's a way to specifically target/fight/whatever so that you don't in fact mangle said asses.

[Daezuel]

It's sad that this conversation has degenerated into the typical bitch about MMO mechanics thread instead of useful talk about Aion. Have you seen some of the vids out?

YouTube - Aion - Dwarves ~ You can

I mean god damn, the character graphics are amazing, this is someone using the character creation tools to make a dwarf, looks better than most MMO's out. When is the god damn beta :/

p.s. how do I embed youtube?

[bonanno]

Youtube has embed links...

[Clug]

Originally Posted by Daezuel

It's sad that this conversation has degenerated into the typical bitch about MMO mechanics thread instead of useful talk about Aion. Have you seen some of the vids out?

Did you read the thread or just come here to QQ? Because I asked a very valid question about leveling time and if there is a massive grind fest or not.

That is where the talk started about grinding vs questing. MMO mechanics is 10000% valid, I don't play a MMO just because it is pretty else I would be playing LoTR or AoC.

[Daezuel]

Originally Posted by Clug

Did you read the thread or just come here to QQ? Because I asked a very valid question about leveling time and if there is a massive grind fest or not.

That is where the talk started about grinding vs questing. MMO mechanics is 10000% valid, I don't play a MMO just because it is pretty else I would be playing LoTR or AoC.

Definitely been keeping up with the thread, don't take it so personal. It's a valid question but it went from talking about the grind in Aion to a discussion that's been beat to death on several threads is all. Just more interested in relevant details about Aion.

Threw up the vid because I thought it was pretty impressive. I'm not a huge graphics whore, but it is nice to see the characters and animation looking solid.

Far be it for me to get in the way though, go back to bitching about grinding vs questing by all means.

[Darph]

I'm pretty excited about Aion.

It seems like NCsoft is one of the few companies that have a genuinely good "construction" team, meaning Art and Technical. Their games, so far, have always run great and looked phenomenal.

Originally Posted by bonanno

Youtube has embed links...

That laugh is infectious..


Anyways..

In WoW, AOE is only available to a small percentage of the player base. For the majority of people Questing is the only viable option.

We just plvled a few twinks up. From about lvl 15 All we did was run dungeons with a decked out lvl 80 Druid or Paladin and we both hit lvl 60 with a little under 2 days played with no RAF and plenty of afking in town while watching movies.

Huzzuh.

[Lonin]

Originally Posted by Darph

Anyways..

In WoW, AOE is only available to a small percentage of the player base. For the majority of people Questing is the only viable option.

We just plvled a few twinks up. From about lvl 15 All we did was run dungeons with a decked out lvl 80 Druid or Paladin and we both hit lvl 60 with a little under 2 days played with no RAF and plenty of afking in town while watching movies.

Huzzuh.

I'm doing the solo-leveling guide route right now, basically all quests. It's decently fast,but it's slower than the PLing you just described. It is my first time getting past the 30's in WoW though, so my inexperience is slowing me down a bit. It's pretty monotonous though.

[Zehn - Vhex]

The 30's have always been horrible in WoW. Just terrible quest saturation and well...fuck desolace. Such an underutilized zone.

As for Aion, we'll see. I mean, we've seen this before. FFxi was a well polished game being released state side but they never bothered to make it...well...applicable to western audiences. For one thing, you couldn't jump and if there's anything us round eyes like, it's being able to jump.

Hopefully they're taking this time to do more then translate it.

[Caocao]

Well from the time chart that was linked previously they seem to be taking a bit of time to do so. FFXI did a very good job localizing their game. It is also very popular in Europe and even in the states. As for adding jumping not sure what that has to do w/ localizing.

[Hatorade]

It is my understanding every race can fly, I wonder how dwarfs do it. I know they are sprinters and very dangerous over short distances but flying...

[Kuro]

Dwarf Tossing is illegal in Canada.

[farlin]

So is this game pvp focused or pve or both?

[Teljair]

Originally Posted by farlin

So is this game pvp focused or pve or both?

Both, PvPvE.