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Old 07-09-2009, 01:14 PM   #2026 (permalink)
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The figurine and CD is the only difference right? 10 bucks cheaper online as well.
Well you get all the ingame goodies from a digital CE so yeah as far as I know. There might be some cloth map or whatever the shit they usually do, but those aren't very important, the music CDs I could care less about, don't even have anything that can play CDs but can't play MP3s anyway, it's just gonna take dust somewhere, and the figurine is downright ugly, plus I'm not really a figurine fan.

Don't know where you're looking for the 10bucks cheaper though, I was checking around but it's somewhat hard to find any other place besides gamestop/eb and amazon selling the US aion version. I was planning on getting one from the gold selling websites, they usually have CE keys to sell at game launch.
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Old 07-09-2009, 03:59 PM   #2027 (permalink)
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"I played cleric because I don't have enough money(irl money that is) to buy good gear like you need to if you play a melee class. My hunter friend spent 800-1500$ to gear his char". Crazy koreans.
Seems like a really dumb ass way of looking at things honestly. Just because some people like to drop $1000+ on a video game to deck their toons out hardly makes it a requirement for everyone else. I know they take their pvp very seriously but its not like those people are buying "ebay only" gear. This is all shit he can get too, just not instantly off the broker.

It is a sad state of affairs over there if people honestly feel they need to drop that kinda money on their toon or its not worth playing. Simply because some others happen to do it. Crazy koreans indeed.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:11 PM   #2028 (permalink)
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I wouldnt play a class that needs so much farming to be maxxed that I would rather spent 1000$ on ebay for gold. If I play, I play at the max in pvp or dont do it. So I understand the koreans there.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:31 PM   #2029 (permalink)
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pvp is serious biznis.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:36 PM   #2030 (permalink)
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pvp is serious biznis.
Great contribution retard.

I agree with Inconsiderable, min/maxing is pretty important in PvP. Hopefully we don't have to deal with the ebay stuff and everyone will be on equal footing for the duration of the first few months (yeah right).
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I'm well aware of how much being fully decked out in ultra max gear is worth in pvp.

My reply was to the guy above you, but if you wish to take it personally, knock yourself out.
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Old 07-09-2009, 06:52 PM   #2032 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that the best pvp gear in the game is attuned when you loot/buy it from the vendor. There's the elite versions of level 50 Abyss gear that cost a ridiculous amount of AP's each. And the Draconic gear (that you can get for receiving an S rank in the PvPvE instance) is also untradeable (I hope).
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Level 40 - Archon Centurion's Weapons

Sword
Attack Speed +18%
Accuracy +100
Elite Sword
Adds Critical +45

Mace
Attack +25
Attack Speed +18%
Elite Mace
Adds +56 Magic Boost

Dagger
Attack +25
Accuracy +100
Elite Dagger
Adds +45 Critical

Orb
HP +226
MP +709
Magic Boost +56
Elite Orb
Adds Casting Speed +14%

Book
HP +226
Magic Boost +56
Elite Book
Adds Casting Speed +14%

Great Sword
Attack +25
Accuracy +100
Elite Great Sword
Adds Critical +45

Pole arm
Attack Speed +18%
Accuracy +100
Elite Pole arm
Adds Critical +45

Staff
Attack +25
Attack Speed +18%
Elite Staff
Critical +45

Bow
Attack Speed +18%
Accuracy +100
Elite Bow
Adds Critical +45

Level 40 - Archon Centurion's Armor Sets
Note - All differences are italicized and colored in blue.

Cloth Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Magic Accuracy +32


Chest
HP +181
MP +511
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Chest
HP +90
MP +511
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Magic Boost +45

Pants
HP +135
MP +408
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11
Elite Pants
HP +67
MP +408
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11
Magic Boost +34

Shoulders
HP +90
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Elite Shoulders
HP +45
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Magic Attack +15

Gloves
HP +90
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Elite Gloves
HP +45
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Attack Speed +7%

Boots
HP +90
MP +306
Concentration +8
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +45
MP +306
Concentration +8
Run Speed +22%
Magic Boost +25


Leather Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Attack +10


Chest
HP +181
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Chest
HP +217
Flight Speed +8%

Pants
HP +135
Flight Speed +6%
Elite Pants
HP +203
Flight Speed +6%

Shoulders
HP +90
Attack +10
Elite Shoulders
HP +135
Attack +10

Gloves
HP +90
Attack Speed +7%
Elite Gloves
HP +135
Attack Speed +7%
Boots
HP +90
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +148
Run Speed +22%


Chain Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Magic Boost +45


Chest
HP +181
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Chest
HP +271
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13

Pants
HP +135
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11
Elite Pants
HP +203
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11

Shoulders
HP +90
Attack +10
Concentration +8
Elite Shoulders
HP +135
Attack +10
Concentration +8

Gloves
HP +90
Attack Speed +7%
Concentration +8
Elite Gloves
HP +135
Attack Speed +7%Concentration +8

Boots
HP +90
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +8
Elite Boots
HP +148
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +8


Plate Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Critical +36


Chest
HP +181
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Chest
HP +271
Flight Speed +8%

Pants
HP +135
Flight Speed +6%
Elite Pants
HP +203
Flight Speed +6%


Shoulders
HP +90
Attack +10
Elite Shoulders
HP +135
Attack +10

Gloves
HP +90
Attack Speed +7%
Elite Gloves
HP +135
Attack Speed +7%

Boots
HP +90
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +148
Run Speed +22%


Level 50 - Archon Tribunus' Weapons

Sword
Attack +33
Attack Speed +19%
Elite Sword
Adds Critical +52

Mace
Attack +33
Attack Speed +19%
Elite Mace
Adds +66 Magic Boost

Dagger
Attack Speed +19%
Accuracy +117
Elite Dagger
Adds +57 Critical

Orb
MP +709
Magic Boost +66
Magic Accuracy +47
Elite Orb
Adds Casting Speed +16%

Book
Magic Boost +66
Magic Accuracy +47
Elite Book
Adds Casting Speed +16%

Great Sword
Attack Speed +19%
Accuracy +128
Elite Great Sword
Adds Critical +52

Pole arm
Attack Speed +19%
Attack +30
Elite Pole arm
Adds Critical +57

Staff
Attack +33
Attack Speed +19%
Elite Staff
Critical +52

Bow
Attack Speed +19%
Attack +30
Elite Bow
Adds Critical +57

Level 50 - Archon Tribunus' Armor Sets
(The Level 50 sets show significance difference between Elite and non-Elite)

Cloth Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Boost +78
5/5 Pieces - Additional Magic Boost +91


Chest
MP +694
Magic Boost +52
Flight Speed +10%
Concentration +16
Elite Chest
HP +317
MP +694
Flight Speed +10%
Concentration +16

Pants
MP +555
Magic Boost +39
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Pants
HP +237
MP +408
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13

Shoulders
MP +416
Magic Attack +18
Magic Boost +26
Concentration +9
Elite Shoulders
HP +158
MP +416
Magic Attack +18
Concentration +9

Gloves
MP +521
Magic Boost +26
Concentration +9
Elite Gloves
HP +158
MP +416
Attack Speed +8%
Concentration +9

Boots
MP +416
Magic Boosting +26
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +9
Elite Boots
HP +186
MP +416
Concentration +9
Run Speed +22%


Leather Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - HP +315
5/5 Pieces - Critical +42


Chest
Evasion +41
Flight Speed +10%
Elite Chest
HP +105
Evasion +41
Flight Speed +10%

Pants
Evasion +31
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Pants
HP +79
Evasion +31
Flight Speed +8%

Shoulders
Evasion +20
Attack +12
Elite Shoulders
HP +52
Evasion +20
Attack +12

Gloves
Evasion +20
Attack Speed +8%
Elite Gloves
HP +52
Evasion +20
Attack Speed +8%

Boots
Evasion +20
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +52
Evasion +26
Run Speed +22%


Chain Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - HP +315
5/5 Pieces - Magic Accuracy +38


Chest
MP +211
Flight Speed +10%
Concentration +16
Elite Chest
HP +105
Concentration +16
Flight Speed +10%
Magic Boost +52

Pants
MP +158
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Pants
HP +79
Concentration +13
Flight Speed +8%
Magic Boost +39

Shoulders
MP +105
Attack +12
Concentration +9
Elite Shoulders
HP +52
Concentration +9
Attack +12
Magic Boost +26

Gloves
MP +105
Attack Speed +8%
Concentration +9
Elite Gloves
HP +52
Concentration +9
Attack Speed +8%
Magic Boost +26

Boots
MP +105
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +9
Elite Boots
HP +52
Concentration +9
Run Speed +22%
Magic Boost +33


Plate Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - HP +315
5/5 Pieces - Attack +12


Chest
HP +211
Flight Speed +10%
Elite Chest
HP +105
Flight Speed +10%
Physical Defense +69

Pants
HP +158
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Pants
HP +79
Flight Speed +8%
Physical Defense +52

Shoulders
HP +105
Attack +12
Elite Shoulders
HP +52
Attack +12
Physical Defense +34

Gloves
HP +105
Attack Speed +8%
Elite Gloves
HP +52
Attack Speed +8%
Physical Defense +34

Boots
HP +105
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +52
Run Speed +22%
Physical Defense +34

So I don't really understand what would cost that much money? Maybe it's the initial gear to get started in pvp so you can farm Abyss points well.
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:29 PM   #2033 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that the best pvp gear in the game is attuned when you loot/buy it from the vendor. There's the elite versions of level 50 Abyss gear that cost a ridiculous amount of AP's each. And the Draconic gear (that you can get for receiving an S rank in the PvPvE instance) is also untradeable (I hope).
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:

Level 40 - Archon Centurion's Weapons

Sword
Attack Speed +18%
Accuracy +100
Elite Sword
Adds Critical +45

Mace
Attack +25
Attack Speed +18%
Elite Mace
Adds +56 Magic Boost

Dagger
Attack +25
Accuracy +100
Elite Dagger
Adds +45 Critical

Orb
HP +226
MP +709
Magic Boost +56
Elite Orb
Adds Casting Speed +14%

Book
HP +226
Magic Boost +56
Elite Book
Adds Casting Speed +14%

Great Sword
Attack +25
Accuracy +100
Elite Great Sword
Adds Critical +45

Pole arm
Attack Speed +18%
Accuracy +100
Elite Pole arm
Adds Critical +45

Staff
Attack +25
Attack Speed +18%
Elite Staff
Critical +45

Bow
Attack Speed +18%
Accuracy +100
Elite Bow
Adds Critical +45

Level 40 - Archon Centurion's Armor Sets
Note - All differences are italicized and colored in blue.

Cloth Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Magic Accuracy +32


Chest
HP +181
MP +511
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Chest
HP +90
MP +511
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Magic Boost +45

Pants
HP +135
MP +408
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11
Elite Pants
HP +67
MP +408
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11
Magic Boost +34

Shoulders
HP +90
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Elite Shoulders
HP +45
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Magic Attack +15

Gloves
HP +90
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Elite Gloves
HP +45
MP +306
Magic Boost +22
Concentration +8
Attack Speed +7%

Boots
HP +90
MP +306
Concentration +8
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +45
MP +306
Concentration +8
Run Speed +22%
Magic Boost +25


Leather Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Attack +10


Chest
HP +181
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Chest
HP +217
Flight Speed +8%

Pants
HP +135
Flight Speed +6%
Elite Pants
HP +203
Flight Speed +6%

Shoulders
HP +90
Attack +10
Elite Shoulders
HP +135
Attack +10

Gloves
HP +90
Attack Speed +7%
Elite Gloves
HP +135
Attack Speed +7%
Boots
HP +90
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +148
Run Speed +22%


Chain Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Magic Boost +45


Chest
HP +181
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Chest
HP +271
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13

Pants
HP +135
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11
Elite Pants
HP +203
Flight Speed +6%
Concentration +11

Shoulders
HP +90
Attack +10
Concentration +8
Elite Shoulders
HP +135
Attack +10
Concentration +8

Gloves
HP +90
Attack Speed +7%
Concentration +8
Elite Gloves
HP +135
Attack Speed +7%Concentration +8

Boots
HP +90
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +8
Elite Boots
HP +148
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +8


Plate Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Resist +48
5/5 Pieces - Critical +36


Chest
HP +181
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Chest
HP +271
Flight Speed +8%

Pants
HP +135
Flight Speed +6%
Elite Pants
HP +203
Flight Speed +6%


Shoulders
HP +90
Attack +10
Elite Shoulders
HP +135
Attack +10

Gloves
HP +90
Attack Speed +7%
Elite Gloves
HP +135
Attack Speed +7%

Boots
HP +90
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +148
Run Speed +22%


Level 50 - Archon Tribunus' Weapons

Sword
Attack +33
Attack Speed +19%
Elite Sword
Adds Critical +52

Mace
Attack +33
Attack Speed +19%
Elite Mace
Adds +66 Magic Boost

Dagger
Attack Speed +19%
Accuracy +117
Elite Dagger
Adds +57 Critical

Orb
MP +709
Magic Boost +66
Magic Accuracy +47
Elite Orb
Adds Casting Speed +16%

Book
Magic Boost +66
Magic Accuracy +47
Elite Book
Adds Casting Speed +16%

Great Sword
Attack Speed +19%
Accuracy +128
Elite Great Sword
Adds Critical +52

Pole arm
Attack Speed +19%
Attack +30
Elite Pole arm
Adds Critical +57

Staff
Attack +33
Attack Speed +19%
Elite Staff
Critical +52

Bow
Attack Speed +19%
Attack +30
Elite Bow
Adds Critical +57

Level 50 - Archon Tribunus' Armor Sets
(The Level 50 sets show significance difference between Elite and non-Elite)

Cloth Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - Magic Boost +78
5/5 Pieces - Additional Magic Boost +91


Chest
MP +694
Magic Boost +52
Flight Speed +10%
Concentration +16
Elite Chest
HP +317
MP +694
Flight Speed +10%
Concentration +16

Pants
MP +555
Magic Boost +39
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Pants
HP +237
MP +408
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13

Shoulders
MP +416
Magic Attack +18
Magic Boost +26
Concentration +9
Elite Shoulders
HP +158
MP +416
Magic Attack +18
Concentration +9

Gloves
MP +521
Magic Boost +26
Concentration +9
Elite Gloves
HP +158
MP +416
Attack Speed +8%
Concentration +9

Boots
MP +416
Magic Boosting +26
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +9
Elite Boots
HP +186
MP +416
Concentration +9
Run Speed +22%


Leather Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - HP +315
5/5 Pieces - Critical +42


Chest
Evasion +41
Flight Speed +10%
Elite Chest
HP +105
Evasion +41
Flight Speed +10%

Pants
Evasion +31
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Pants
HP +79
Evasion +31
Flight Speed +8%

Shoulders
Evasion +20
Attack +12
Elite Shoulders
HP +52
Evasion +20
Attack +12

Gloves
Evasion +20
Attack Speed +8%
Elite Gloves
HP +52
Evasion +20
Attack Speed +8%

Boots
Evasion +20
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +52
Evasion +26
Run Speed +22%


Chain Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - HP +315
5/5 Pieces - Magic Accuracy +38


Chest
MP +211
Flight Speed +10%
Concentration +16
Elite Chest
HP +105
Concentration +16
Flight Speed +10%
Magic Boost +52

Pants
MP +158
Flight Speed +8%
Concentration +13
Elite Pants
HP +79
Concentration +13
Flight Speed +8%
Magic Boost +39

Shoulders
MP +105
Attack +12
Concentration +9
Elite Shoulders
HP +52
Concentration +9
Attack +12
Magic Boost +26

Gloves
MP +105
Attack Speed +8%
Concentration +9
Elite Gloves
HP +52
Concentration +9
Attack Speed +8%
Magic Boost +26

Boots
MP +105
Run Speed +22%
Concentration +9
Elite Boots
HP +52
Concentration +9
Run Speed +22%
Magic Boost +33


Plate Set

Elite Set Bonuses
3/5 Pieces - HP +315
5/5 Pieces - Attack +12


Chest
HP +211
Flight Speed +10%
Elite Chest
HP +105
Flight Speed +10%
Physical Defense +69

Pants
HP +158
Flight Speed +8%
Elite Pants
HP +79
Flight Speed +8%
Physical Defense +52

Shoulders
HP +105
Attack +12
Elite Shoulders
HP +52
Attack +12
Physical Defense +34

Gloves
HP +105
Attack Speed +8%
Elite Gloves
HP +52
Attack Speed +8%
Physical Defense +34

Boots
HP +105
Run Speed +22%
Elite Boots
HP +52
Run Speed +22%
Physical Defense +34

So I don't really understand what would cost that much money? Maybe it's the initial gear to get started in pvp so you can farm Abyss points well.
In the thread linked earlier, he mentions that Godstones are very rare and expensive, not sure what the best manastones will run people either.

Never read anything about the medals listed in that chart, how do you get them?
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:34 PM   #2034 (permalink)
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I'm not positive, but I think I read that the medals are like the repeatable coin quests that you exchange for gear. Except you get the medals from pvp quests. (Someone correct me if I'm wrong)
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Its the + enchants that end up costing fucktons of kinah. With lets say level 45 gear, you will want to buy like level 50+ enchants and those run about 1,000,000 kinah a piece on the chinese servers now. You can get buy without it, but if youre a min maxxer you will want all 5 armor slots and a weapon at +10 enchants. So you are talking 60 million kinah easily.
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Old 07-09-2009, 10:03 PM   #2036 (permalink)
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Godstones are like WOW weapon enchants that are rare drops if you didn't know. Not sure if you can craft them though. I don't think you can.
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So I don't like reading 136 page threads. The game looks pretty cool (though I'm leary of more fantasy MMO's), is this AoC all over again? Or something with some longevity?
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It has an actual endgame, unlike AoC.
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Old 07-09-2009, 11:37 PM   #2039 (permalink)
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I like this coming to NA late. We got to let the koreans/chinese work out all the balance issues and problems. Then after the pain in the ass work is done we get the polished MMO with several content patches included.
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About the ebay shit, it's not really the items as someone pointed out, it's the enhancing of these items that costs. The +10 shit is insanely expensive because it's a lottery where your chances decrease as you get closer to +10 , and use items you also get randomly off disenchanting other expensive items. It's also a lottery where if you fail, you go back to the previous grade, so you could very well need 40enchants to get a single +10 if your luck sucks, or you could get it first time. It's not like super grind, it's like super grind^2. Then there's the stones but those comparatively are "cheaper", you can trade shitty stones for good ones at some NPC, then improve those with alchemy for a rather low cost(or you can just buy them directly on the broker for more as usual), godstones are expensive but you only need one(or 2 if you're an assassin).

And also he was noting that the cost was more if you were pveing on the sides, where you can actually buy some of the good pve gear and all, or for example if you're solo farming shit, it's an investment so you can farm more efficiently. He said if you pure pvp you didn't need as much(mostly because the abyss gear is bop).

Anyway these prices are all relative. If they have a fuckton of farmers selling their gold to websites, the prices ingame are gonna go up because ingame money gets devaluated(because farmers generate more gold than average players which diminish the average player gains in comparison). At least that's how I see it, but I'm not an economics major. The more they buy gold, the more devaluated gold is because they up the production to follow the demand further increasing the inflation(or deflation whichever it is, no idea).

Considering selling gold is a common practice over here, but not as widely spread and accepted, I'd say our ingame economy shouldn't derive too much as it did over there. NCsoft will be partly responsible of this in their banning of gold sellers and such, and we can only hope they do as good as a job as NC korea did with bots, and not what happens on C-Aion. If thye do a decent job though, we shouldn't see the issue as much.
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