Aion - The Tower of Eternity

[Tarrant220]

Originally Posted by Pyros

The FP thing is probably a limited number of keys, they often do that on their betas, so if you're not on when they have keys to giveaway, you won't get one and won't get into beta. To get into beta for sure just preorder the game at gamestop or amazon, you can cancel a preorder without any fees, and it guarantees a beta spot. Better do it soon if you want in for the next weekend though, they send them by waves and usually early in the week, if you preorder too late you don't get the mail before the week after, and they only beta every other weekend.

Well I'm going to the mall today, maybe I'll preorder while I'm there I suppose.

[Borknagar]

Not much talk going on in this last days...

A question if anyone can:

Is the loot/stats/looks varied as WoW (random, many different drops and looks) or it's more of a Warhammer (sorta cookie cutter, few drops, only a few armor sets) or ..ack.. Guild Wars (sparse, almost meaningless loot) ?

Ty.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Borknagar

Not much talk going on in this last days...

A question if anyone can:

Is the loot/stats/looks varied as WoW (random, many different drops and looks) or it's more of a Warhammer (sorta cookie cutter, few drops, only a few armor sets) or ..ack.. Guild Wars (sparse, almost meaningless loot) ?

Ty.

Loot seems to be closer to War. Haven't played at the higher levels, but lower levels you basically have one or 2 different skins for items, and as many different stat stuff. It doesn't seem to use a "random" system like wow with bear/eagle green shit. That lets them however increase the quality of the models/skins used(much like warhammer) while most of wow loot precap is very very generic, including wotlk stuff(it's just less gay looking than BC stuff).

Not much of a discussion because there wasn't much to test last phase, and there's nothing going on between phases. I expect next weekend to have more discussions then feedback about it(1-20) but still find stupid we won't get to test abyss, meaning pvp will probably still be kept to the minimum(ffa arena zerg fests and duels).

Oh and a good joke found on Aionsource:
YouTube - Aion - **EXCLUSIVE** Leaked English spellcasting voices

[possible]

Originally Posted by Borknagar

Not much talk going on in this last days...

A question if anyone can:

Is the loot/stats/looks varied as WoW (random, many different drops and looks) or it's more of a Warhammer (sorta cookie cutter, few drops, only a few armor sets) or ..ack.. Guild Wars (sparse, almost meaningless loot) ?

Ty.

Warhammer style I guess.

[Type0Negative]

Originally Posted by Sharmai

Sigh then I probably shouldn't plan on buying this game then. Since the likely earliest and hardest nerfs will be to spiritmaster's which are the one class I really enjoy right now.

Believe it or not I actually heard that Templars are next on the nerf list. A Templar won some big official pvp tournament which in itself wouldn't bring on a nerf, but apparently there was also a video (which I haven't tried to find) showing a Templar taking on like 4 people at the same time and winning. I guess it caused an uproar.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Type0Negative

Believe it or not I actually heard that Templars are next on the nerf list. A Templar won some big official pvp tournament which in itself wouldn't bring on a nerf, but apparently there was also a video (which I haven't tried to find) showing a Templar taking on like 4 people at the same time and winning. I guess it caused an uproar.

If you heard that on Aionsource, you shouldn't trust anything that comes from here because 99% of the people are total retards or uninformed retards or totally uninformed retards. Most of them would make it acceptable to give a wow pvp tard a nobel prize. Even 2 of them.

Yes templars are extremely good at those tournaments. As a reminder, they don't allow DP food, flying, scrolls and are 1vs1(in teams of 3 consecutive fights). Also some of the melee classes use spell resist set since it's 3persons teams, so if the other team has a good caster he gets negated by that magic resist guy. These are extremely limiting conditions in favor of the templars(mostly the no flying thing). As for the video, it's a video of a 50 templar in full abyss gear owning lvl 40s. Yes not every class can do it, in fact templar is probably one of the few who can do it(gladiators have good chances too because they have plenty of AE and good resistance like templars). He also made an interview, and specifically said that this is not doable against equal level if they have a functionning brain(lucky for future templars, when they'll fight the aion source tards, they'll be able to do it).

In normal conditions, templars are just like every other class. They have their ups and their downs. Their ups is mostly against rangers, their downs mostly against healers. Assassins can sometimes one round templar during a full stun lock(yeah it doesn't sound extremely fun if you're not a templar when that sometimes becomes an always). Casters are usually fucked for the first 30secs because of templar's stigma that increases their resistances, but in "real" pvp you can fly around until this shit is down then start the fight. In arenas not so much.

Not saying a nerf won't happen, templars burst damage seems quite high in full abyss gear with crit/attack stone considering their defensive abilities. But it won't happen because they won the shitty tournaments, or because of the video.

[Flesseck]

I'm gonna slowly go through the thread, but are there any reviews of the game so far? Any good reviews? The style looks like a more improved, polished FFXI. And the animations look great. I just hope the gameplay matches the visuals.

[wild_whiskey]

Just read the last 8 or so pages.

[Rhym]

Assassins being able to kill people in a stunlock? What is this another WoW Rogue. Sigh, i hope lame crap like that is removed. How is the CC? I pray it isn't like Warhammer where i can't control my character 80% of the time.

[Pyros]

Originally Posted by Rhym

Assassins being able to kill people in a stunlock? What is this another WoW Rogue. Sigh, i hope lame crap like that is removed. How is the CC? I pray it isn't like Warhammer where i can't control my character 80% of the time.

Well it can happen, mostly because assassins are built around it. However you can gear up to increase your stun resists shit, some abilities take you out of certain stuns and there's anti CC potions too. You do have to get used to the idea, if the sin is lucky, he'll outright burst your ass down. That's what they do. Stun lock or not, they'll still be able to kill you in very few huge hits.

As for CC, they seem rather limited. For example the Sin, he can stun lock you, however his big stuns only have a CHANCE to stun based on the combo points(unlike wow where the combo points=duration but it lands everytime). The stun lock isn't repeatable either as far as I know, the air throw has a 1min cd while the stuns are on 30s-2min cd, with 2secs duration. So it's not wow's cheapshot for 4 kidney for 6, gouge for 4, blind, cheapshot for 4 and finish. Other classes have knockdowns and stuns too, pretty much every class has at least one CC. However every class also has access to the CC pots, which remove most status effects instantly(with a cooldown too however, so it's like wow's trinket). There's also class specific anti CC abilities which a lot of classes seem to have(either preemptive resists increases or reactive shit like the sorc's blink), and obviously dispels from hmm... chanters, clerics and spiritmasters I think?

Most of the videos I've seen don't show all that much CC in group pvp, but they often show very short CC "stun locks" and burst during that period in 1vs1, that seems to be the dominant way to kill people in 1vs1. Probably because everyone can use potions, so you do need to burst people down else they just heal up. It's hard to say how it'll play since the good pvp videos are pretty rare, but I'd assume it's way less CC intensive than war was, mostly because aion has very limited snares(only mages and rangers have access to multiple snares, and they're single target snares with cooldowns so they can only snare one person at a time) and almost no AE CC(if there's any, I'm not sure). Those 2 are the big culprit of the shit AE fest that was WAR, you were lucky to move at normal speed at any point during a scenario battle, and you'd often get hit by shit not aiming at you anyway. That and the fucking sorc/BW AEs killing you in split seconds.

[Draegan]

In the first 1-10 tier I can tell you that each "armor type" cloth/leather/mail? has a set of gear. Instead of "of the eagle" stuff you have "Something Lake Dagger/Sword" etc. I had a leather and mail set that was "Adelle's something leggings". It makes your character look good and match.

Anyway I say it's a combo of WOTLK and WAR.

[Borknagar]

Thanks guys, sounds bearable (ordered). Sorta afraid of the old style kill-stealing, hope the "channels" instances make it OK but they should patch that shit up.

Those that don't want to pay upfront:

•Keep an eye on the Aion team Twitters (@aion_ayase, @aion_amboss, @aion_liv, and @aion_xaen) and Aion Facebook page for your chance to score an invite.

FB url: Aion | Facebook

Liv just announced on Twitter that they will be handling keys at random thoughout the week.

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Borknagar

Thanks guys, sounds bearable (ordered). Sorta afraid of the old style kill-stealing, hope the "channels" instances make it OK but they should patch that shit up.

Those that don't want to pay upfront:

•Keep an eye on the Aion team Twitters (@aion_ayase, @aion_amboss, @aion_liv, and @aion_xaen) and Aion Facebook page for your chance to score an invite.

FB url: Aion | Facebook

Liv just announced on Twitter that they will be handling keys at random thoughout the week.

Fuck Twitter and with how they are handling the beta testing I have lost all interest in this game. I have gone as far as uninstalling it until launch, the game still needs a ton of little things(AKA polish) for it to have any staying power. As of now the only people that will be playing it past the first month are people that are already playing/played the chinese client.

[Borknagar]

Gotta agree it's terribad (both having to wait on twitter and the schedule itself) a proper beta need testers, feedbacks and fixes. Hope they have a western team of testers 24/7 doing the real work.

[Zindan]

They don't really need us to test anything though, do they? The only thing the NA team is going to work on is translation, and by now I would hope they are working with the latest build from Korea.