[WoW]Wotlk:Raid instances to have 10 and 25 man versions, Death Knight starts at 55

[The Ancient]

Originally Posted by Caocao

Vampiric Touch now gives mana to your party members for 2% of your shadow damage dealt, down from 5%.

Do you think Mana Cost is going to ramp up at the same rate as DPS?

[Caocao]

No clue not level 80 yet, but a 3% difference in a 5% ability is pretty huge. I'm glad they have an internal cooldown on mace stun procs of 6 seconds though.

[Asmadai]

Yeah, theorycraftists are already predicting SPriests running into serious self-regen issues with the nerf.

I personally thought think it will be fine.

[Deathwing]

Won't the crits proccing spirit tap help a lot?

[Chrisb3]

Originally Posted by Deathwing

Won't the crits proccing spirit tap help a lot?

Also Shadow Priests have about 30% Crit without using any crit gear (dammit stupid slow armoury won't let me check my gear!).

[Caocao]

I was more referring to the mana given to the group. With buffs/consums I've never really had to worry too much about it.

[Runnen]

I know it's not much, but I really love the fact they aren't afraid of changing places that have been set in stone since day one, particularly Orgrimmar and Stormwind. There are some things that WoW does wrong, but one thing they do very well is making the world feel alive, between the many holidays and the zone revamps (anyone remember pre-AQ Silithus? Haha). Also, the fact that some major characters "evolve".. Rexxar moving to join his people on Outland, Grommash Hellscream going to Northrend to make his dead daddy proud, Tirion Fordring remaking the Order of the Silver Hand, the Scarlet Crusade moving to Northrend as the Scarlet Onslaught.. really gives Azeroth a life of its own I find.

[Jabberwhacky]

Because they move some NPC's every 2 years? You are really, REALLY easy to please.

[Runnen]

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

Because they move some NPC's every 2 years? You are really, REALLY easy to please.

My point was, just about every MMO out there claims they have an ever-changing world, where you make the storyline and watch it grow and evolve.. and it's simply not true. WoW has been able to make individual characters really evolve (see Lord Kazzak getting promoted after he opened the Dark Portal..) or kill major characters (see Nefarian is officially dead in the WoW storyline) and that's refreshing to see. But perhaps it is because WoW already had a huge amount of Warcraft lore behind it when it was released, while other MMOs generally start their own lore from scratch.

[Agraza]

Kazzak is credited with opening the portal? I wondered why he got a promotion for getting his ass handed to him for 2 years.

[Runnen]

Originally Posted by Agraza

Kazzak is credited with opening the portal? I wondered why he got a promotion for getting his ass handed to him for 2 years.

In the established lore, Lord Kazzak was stranded on Azeroth after the defeat of Archimonde, and was tasked by Kil'Jaeden to find a "mystical artefact" powerful enough to re-open the Dark Portal. That's why Kazzak never left the Tainted Scar, as the artefact was rumored to be in this area. Upon release of the Burning Crusade, Lord Kazzak re-opened the Dark Portal and went through, establishing a new base at the Throne of Kil'Jaeden in Hellfire Peninsula and was promoted to Doom Lord Kazzak (and was apparently given some new armor to go with the title, as his model changed a bit). Kazzak's replacement on Azeroth was Highlord Krull, who rampaged across the land and even attacked Stormwind and other major cities before eventually disappearing.

Obviously, while some characters in the WoW canon lore have been confirmed to be dead (Nefarian for example, since we are still unsure about C'thun and Illidan, though signs point to the latter being dead for good), most other characters who get killed weekly in raids are still there the next week due to the game mechanics. Another example of "evolving" character is Prince Kael'tas Sunstrider, who was officially defeated in the Tempest Keep, but did not die (as seen when you hand in one of his Verdant Spheres to A'dal and Kael'tas taunts you about his survival).. then he had to undergo "demonic surgery" and was sent to the Isle of Quel'danas to oversee operations at the Sun Well. With his defeat in the Magister's Terrace and Kil'Jaeden's little speech mentionning how "the expendable have perished", it seems Kael'tas also is finally dead.

[BurnemWizfyre]

Demonic surgery, just to be killed off in a 5 man....sucks to be him.

[Bizanich]

Originally Posted by Jabberwhacky

That seven samurai site also has a youtube vid of DK combat. Won't be up long but check it here.

Gay, he has my Runeblade of Baron Rivendare (graphic, anyways).

I still think it's an awesome looking sword, one of the best ingame, but I enjoyed whipping it out and all the newbs who had no idea what it was stop to look....

[Grave]

I really love the clockwork gnome model, looks great. Brings back some good EQ memories.

[Etoille]

Originally Posted by The Ancient

Do you think Mana Cost is going to ramp up at the same rate as DPS?

maybe i missed it a few pages back - what link/source are you looking at with spirit tap and vamp touch changes??