Biggest Disappointment?

[Aamina]

Originally Posted by Obtenor

This might be crazy talking but.

If one company can make the next woah MMORPG, the WoW killer is:


Valve software.


That I'd buy really fast.

Not according to Awake. TF2 is a kiddie game requiring no skill. The MMO they'd make would likely not have him as a subscriber .

[Rikkum]

Vanguard

[blumblum]

DAOC is still the reference for realm vs realm large scale battle, relic capture & castle siege.

The kind of features everyone expected on WOW, AOC, and WarHammer

I don't get why some of you say it was disappointing, it's not really justified

[Awake]

Originally Posted by Aamina

Not according to Awake. TF2 is a kiddie game requiring no skill. The MMO they'd make would likely not have him as a subscriber .

I never said that Valve wouldn't be able to pull off a great MMO. Afterall, the HL serie is excellent. TF2 is fun, just very mainstreamed and it require barely any true skill if you compare it to the original TF.

[Northerner]

Originally Posted by blumblum

I don't get why some of you say it was disappointing, it's not really justified

Well, perhaps because DAoC was shit at release and completely incapable of supporting RvR when it was first happening. This was compounded by massive balance fuck-ups, massive counter-balancing nerfs/fixes and the whole years of buff-botted eight-man rape teams dominating thing. Throw in the later changes in atlantis and such and it was a very strange game in many ways.

Hey, I played on one of the best eight-man rape trains running and had a blast. Still, the system was all kinds of broken and a lot of people knew it.

[findar]

Originally Posted by Northerner

Hey, I played on one of the best eight-man rape trains running and had a blast. Still, the system was all kinds of broken and a lot of people knew it.

you mean as a minstrel chain mez'ing someone for >2hrs is broken? shieeeet.

or that 5 could defend against 40? that game had all kinds of balance issues along with gameplay issues.

[Aethn Anvel]

Vanguard for me. It was the first time I got excited by a game since EQ info filtered out in 97-98. I will never trust a game to launch again without being cynical.

[Siddar]

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Valor - Aerin'Dar: Stick the MT on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Fear is going to destroy any atempt at a heal chain and you forgot about the adds that become active as you fight.

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Disease - Grummus: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

You forgot about healing the large amount of AE damage that Grummus DoT put out.

Originally Posted by Thug

Temple of Marr - Mithaniel Marr: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

You forgot to mention that you have to clear four adds in room and then split MM away from four more adds then kill him before adds respawn if not you have to deal with some very tough adds for there era while fighting MM.

Originally Posted by Thug

Crypt of Decay - Bertoxxulous: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Bert event was suposed be about killing massive amount of adds fast enough to spawn Bert. Bert was just the final part of the event.

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Torment - Saryn: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps. Ok and maybe throw in some wandering bird to deal with.

You forgot about three adds every 10% requireing DPS offtanks and secondary healers to change from killing saryn to killing adds then back to saryn while at same time dodgeing the sorrowsongs silence AE.

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Fire - Fennin'Ro: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Yea basicly right onthis one there are a few dozen other mobs that have to be killed first before you can get to him tough.

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Water - Coirnav: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps. Ok maybe toss in some waves of trash beforehand. But thats before the fight so that don't really count.

Corinav is about murdering massive amounts of adds in under 14 minutes are being ported to PoK MT and Heal chain really dont play much part in this event.

Originally Posted by Thug

Solusek Ro's Tower - Solusek Ro: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Earth - Arbitor of Earth: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Yea nailed both of mobs with your description but you ignored a bunch of other earth mini events that had more interesting scripts.

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Time - Quarm: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

You forgot the massive AE damage that has to be healed and the adds that have to be mezzed to avoid Mana drain AE from adds sucking your casters dry.

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Time - Innoruk: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

You forgot about fear again plus have to deal with very tough adds.

Originally Posted by Thug

Plane of Time - Cazic Thule: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Again fear has to be dealt with plus large scale AE damage plus silence.

Originally Posted by Thug

Christ, need I go on?

Nope you have made it clear enough that you dont know what your talking about.

[Kreugen]

Ugh. We already knew that post sucked, you didn't have to resurrect it.

[Siddar]

Sorry your probally right but that post just ticked me off.

[Caocao]

Never had so many great ideas been brought to one game. Never had a name I've actually known been behind a "new" game. Never did I get almost every person I knew irl to start w/ me to form a guild. Vanguard with out a doubt.