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Old 05-12-2008, 09:00 AM   #136 (permalink)
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He also forgot that EQ was the very first game to require a 3d accelerated graphics card. The technology part he's spouting off doesn't hold any water.

He's also using examples from a game that came out 7 years later or something to say why he's disappointed in EQ . Makes no sense.
Right, I had a voodoo1 at the time, shortly down the road I went to dual voodoo 2's then a geforce 1, then a geforce 2, then a geforce 4. No matter what I used the game still ran pretty crappy. Hell even now I bet I could load up the game with my 7800 GTX and it'd still run like shit.

Yes, the game came out 10 years ago. But haven't they "upgraded" the engine several times since then?

As far as the scripting engine goes? How fucking hard is it to add some functionality to a scripting engine? Create more dynamic encounters? No I don't blame waiting for technology to catch up on this one. I blame the lack of innovation on part of the developers.
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Old 05-12-2008, 09:11 AM   #137 (permalink)
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As far as the scripting engine goes? How fucking hard is it to add some functionality to a scripting engine? Create more dynamic encounters? No I don't blame waiting for technology to catch up on this one. I blame the lack of innovation on part of the developers.
Remind me again what 2nd Generation raid encounters were like when EQ was in the PoP era?
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Old 05-12-2008, 12:45 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Plane of Valor - Aerin'Dar: Stick the MT on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Disease - Grummus: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Temple of Marr - Mithaniel Marr: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Crypt of Decay - Bertoxxulous: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Torment - Saryn: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps. Ok and maybe throw in some wandering bird to deal with.

Plane of Fire - Fennin'Ro: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Water - Coirnav: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps. Ok maybe toss in some waves of trash beforehand. But thats before the fight so that don't really count.

Solusek Ro's Tower - Solusek Ro: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Earth - Arbitor of Earth: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Time - Quarm: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Time - Innoruk: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.

Plane of Time - Cazic Thule: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.


Christ, need I go on?

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Old 05-12-2008, 12:56 PM   #139 (permalink)
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Now compare that to the Thaddius fight.

Phase 1: Ok stick two tanks on two different mobs with a heal chain on each and yah everybody else dps. Ok so its the same so far. Now toss in the fact that the tanks are going to get launched through the air to opposite sides where they have to pick aggro up again. Also dont pull the mobs away from the top of the ramp, or they explode the raid (I think, been a while).

After phase 1 proceed to Phase 2: MT gets aggro and yah lets all heal the tank. Everybody gets a debuff with either a postive charge or a negative charge. All the postive people need to group up and all the negative people need to group up. If anybody is mixed up with the opposite group. The raid blows up.

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Old 05-12-2008, 01:33 PM   #140 (permalink)
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Christ, need I go on?
Let me know when you start... none of those are raid encounters in 2nd Gen MMOs (WoW, EQ2, CoH, etc) that were live during the PoP era.

Thaddius was WAY after the PoP era, compare that to Demi-Plane and beyond EQ encounters if you like. Thaddius, per your description, could be broken down into: Stick the MT on the mob, heal the tank... once you ignore all the other parts of the fight as you did for PoP encounters.

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Old 05-12-2008, 02:11 PM   #141 (permalink)
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Yeah those posts sucked, although I agree in spirit.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:11 PM   #142 (permalink)
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I'm going to nip this one in the bud and ask you to stop right now lest this degenerate into yet ANOTHER EQ vs WoW thread.

No need to continue zinging, on need to continue explaining your point. Just cut it out.

Thanks.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:16 PM   #143 (permalink)
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Awww... come on... how can you read:

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Coirnav: Stick the Mt on the mob with a complete heal chain. Everybody else dps.
...and not tilt your head in awe?
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:17 PM   #144 (permalink)
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Getting back on track lest you faggots try your 'Okay but one more thing about EQ that's better the WoW or WoW that's better then EQ...' (hint: shut the fuck up)

Where was I?

Oh yeah.

AoC is shaping up to be a fairly big disappointment. It's going to be the pvp equivalent of LOTRO. Once that 'new game smell' wears off it's going to become boring and repetitive.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:36 PM   #145 (permalink)
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Fair enough.

I'm done.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:40 PM   #146 (permalink)
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AoC is shaping up to be a fairly big disappointment. It's going to be the pvp equivalent of LOTRO. Once that 'new game smell' wears off it's going to become boring and repetitive.
Yeah because WoW is definitely NOT boring and repetative. ROFL
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:42 PM   #147 (permalink)
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AoC is shaping up to be a fairly big disappointment. It's going to be the pvp equivalent of LOTRO. Once that 'new game smell' wears off it's going to become boring and repetitive.
I don't buy FunCom's hype because I played AO for too long and anyone thinking Blizzard is slow doesn't understand how slow FC is to getting around to stuff. I agree that it will become boring and repetitve in short order.

I just don't see AoC doing well at all. It would be nice, because they sound like they have a really good necromancer-esque class a la the EQ1 necro, but I won't go near it for at least 6 monhts, so I am not really setting myself up for disappointment.

Nothing will ever top SW:G. Nothing. I was so fucking geeked for a good SW MMO, and even with my rose colored geek glasses on the whole time, I just couldn't make that game fun. Least amount of time I have ever played a MMO, including Vanguard.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:43 PM   #148 (permalink)
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Vanguard is the obvious pick. But I also thought Tabula Rasa was a huge letdown, since UO everyone has been waiting for the next Garriot MMO... and frankly the game sucks.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:44 PM   #149 (permalink)
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Yeah because WoW is definitely NOT boring and repetative. ROFL
Ok, Utnayan Jr., you don't like WoW. We get it. Now shut the fuck up.
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Old 05-12-2008, 02:44 PM   #150 (permalink)
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UO in space would of been the nuts, but instead we got kicked in the nuts instead with Tabula Rasa.
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