[WOW] Glider author lawsuit

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

When I say they aren't affected by it I mean they are not going to actually change their minds and either stop or quit.

Because they aren't.

And? What the fuck is your point man? That because these douchebags won't stop no matter what anyone says, that no one should have anything to say because the botters aren't affected?

I hope this asshole gets fucked so hard, he has to pay Blizzard with his great-grandkid's social security checks. And I also hope the cheating fucks that screw up every game they touch get thier accounts banned on a weekly friggin' basis.

[Hachima]

Originally Posted by Rayne

And? What the fuck is your point man? That because these douchebags won't stop no matter what anyone says, that no one should have anything to say because the botters aren't affected?

I hope this asshole gets fucked so hard, he has to pay Blizzard with his great-grandkid's social security checks. And I also hope the cheating fucks that screw up every game they touch get thier accounts banned on a weekly friggin' basis.

It sounds like you have some issues that need to be resolved and I hope you get some counseling before you go on some killing spree rampage.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Hachima

It sounds like you have some issues that need to be resolved and I hope you get some counseling before you go on some killing spree rampage.

Well, i'm not the one saying that because assholes won't stop being assholes, no one has any justification in calling them what they are for reasons of discussion. On a message board of all places! Which is exactly what hes saying.

I hope you learn to more thoroughly understand the specifics of a situation before sticking your foot in your mouth.

[Arbitrary]

Are you bitching and namecalling or are you formulating arguments?

If you just want to cry about the sand some gold farmer stuck in your vag, than go ahead. If you are trying to advance a position, then that isn't want is going on.

"If you don't like XYZ than leave" hasn't been anything more than a jerk move since the days of GQLLFM.

[Twobit Whore]

How is it a jerk move? If you don't like dailies, don't do them. You don't have to. You can run instances or farm primals or tradeskill or harvest or any number of things to make gold. If you don't like doing any of those then why are you playing the game? That's basically all of your gameplay options aside from PvP which requires very little gold in the first place.

[Arbitrary]

"if you don't like XYZ than quit" is totally a jerk move. It is close relative to the jerk veto.

[Twobit Whore]

So basically you have no reasoning and are just trolling now. Okay.

When you want to explain why people should do things they don't like or cheat to avoid doing them and still reap the rewards then go ahead, until then you are just being an idiot.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

Are you bitching and namecalling or are you formulating arguments?

If you just want to cry about the sand some gold farmer stuck in your vag, than go ahead. If you are trying to advance a position, then that isn't want is going on.

"If you don't like XYZ than leave" hasn't been anything more than a jerk move since the days of GQLLFM.

It wasn't me who declared that "its stupid to say anything because they won't listen or stop". Plenty of arguments have been made here to reason why they should be stopped, while the ONLY retort anyone in opposition has had is "they're going to keep doing it because they can".

That retort is nothing more than an attempt to shut down the valid points of the discussion.

"I play within the rules, so should you"
"you have no right to say that because they won't listen"

Thats what you break it down to. And then you go on to somehow try and quantify that as "proof" that the whole discussion is wrong.

botting is cheating
cheating is bad for the game
anyone who cheats is a lazy douchebag

Either refute the context of those comments, or shut the fuck up about it. Don't sit there and single out the one comment you don't want to hear because you don't like to hear it.

[Arbitrary]

Oh, is that what I said? That it was stupid to give reasons?

What I said was this - That particular and specific argument of "if you don't like XYZ than quit" serves no purpose. It will have no impact on those that are doing that thing that you do not like and it really isn't an argument at all, it is bitching. It doesn't address any issues.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

Oh, is that what I said? That it was stupid to give reasons?

What I said was this - That particular and specific argument of "if you don't like XYZ than quit" serves no purpose. It will have no impact on those that are doing that thing that you do not like and it really isn't an argument at all, it is bitching. It doesn't address any issues.

Dude, you're hopelessly clueless. Because thats EXACTLY what you said. The whole point IS, that if cheaters can't be assed to play within the rules of the game like everyone else does, they should quit so they don't ruin the experiences of those who do.

You saying its stupid to make that assertion because "they won't listen" is what serves no purpose. Those saying it are doing so as the very reasoning for why cheaters should just quit. It isn't "just bitching", its the very basis of the discussion.

Others: "cheaters should quit because they ruin the game for others who are content with playing within the rules"
You: "your comment serves no purpose because cheaters won't listen, so that makes your point of view stupid and you're just bitching"

WTF? You really are just trolling now man.

[Malice]

As Blizzard said regarding AFK's in battlegrounds: "The problem is not that people AFK, but WHY they AFK."

If people have a problem with game content, that doesn't mean they should cheat to circumvent the rules. Instead they should just not participate in whatever it is that would drive them to cheat.

And Arbitrary, since when is it a requirement that stating an opinion must "advance a cause?" It's a discussion, not a crusade.

[Arbitrary]

Originally Posted by Rayne

Others: "cheaters should quit because they ruin the game for others who are content with playing within the rules"
You: "your comment serves no purpose because cheaters won't listen, so that makes your point of view stupid and you're just bitching"

Close.

You need to ammend the second part into "your comment serves no purpose because cheaters won't choose to quit playing the game." They'll listen.

Originally Posted by Malice

And Arbitrary, since when is it a requirement that stating an opinion must "advance a cause?" It's a discussion, not a crusade.

If you aren't advancing a position then you are bitching. Don't go reading too deep into a particular word choice.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

If you aren't advancing a position then you are bitching. Don't go reading too deep into a particular word choice.

Dude..... the ENTIRE POSITION of those that oppose cheating, is that cheaters should NOT do what they're doing specifically because everyone is expected to adhere to the same rules. ie: they should "quit" if doing so is such a burden for them.

You're trying to make the point that it isn't worthy of discussion simply because "the cheaters won't listen". Of course they won't. They're douchebags. You really think no one knew that when the discussion was started?

Talk about "reading too deeply"

[Twobit Whore]

If cheaters listened they wouldn't be cheaters because they would have 'listened' to the rules in the first place. Your line of reasoning is very poor.

[xmod2]

I think they should murder all cheaters unless I am the one who is cheating.