[WOW] Glider author lawsuit

[8ounce]

Originally Posted by Hachima

If you can create a mortal kombat fighting robot in RL, you have all my respect and I'm sure you will make millions in contracts with the military.

lol just curious, when you play single player MK, who do you think controls the other guy?

[8ounce]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

You're female, right?

It explains your poor grasp of economics and passive aggressiveness.

Funny how you think you're actually winning the arguement against Rayne...and personal insults aswell as claiming you know what others REALLY care about just shows you're starting to grasp

[Hachima]

Originally Posted by 8ounce

lol just curious, when you play single player MK, who do you think controls the other guy?

lol just curious, do you consider playing video games 'RL'?

[Arbitrary]

Originally Posted by 8ounce

Funny how you think you're actually winning the arguement against Rayne...and personal insults aswell as claiming you know what others REALLY care about just shows you're starting to grasp

Not others, just Rayne.

And it sure doesn't feel like winning.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by Rayne

If the act of writing a bot program becomes a legally actionable offense, punishable by monetary damages to the owner of the IP, how many of these douchebags do you think will continue to make them knowing it could cost them everything they have? The result:

fewer fucking bots as those already existing are detected and banned, and Blizzard's software remains ahead of bot development.

If it doesn't, what recourse does a game company have to protect thier game

You really cant be this fucking stupid i just fail to believe it. THEY ARE NOT CHALLENGING HIS RIGHT CREATE BOTS. THEY ARE CHALLENGING HIS RIGHT TO SELL A BOT PROGRAM THEY CLAIM VIOLATES THEIR COPYRIGHT. Most bots are FREE so once again already putting them outside the very narrow criteria blizzard is attempting to use to find this guy liable of copyright infringement. What legal recourse has any mmo ever created had to fight bots? You get fucking banned if caught thats the recourse thats the punishment people seek to avoid. There are hundreds of bot programs a vast majority of them require no purchase. That fact alone demonstrates how fucking stupid you are.

Is any of this sinking in? This lawsuit is focused on the ability of this man to sell his program. And of his supposed breach of copyright thats fucking it. Its not about RMT or somehow making bots "sanctioned". Win or lose this suit will have no impact on a goddamn thing relating to your experience playing it. If wowglider is unable to be sold after this changes fucking nothing. A precedent saying you cant SELL a bot program changes absolutely fucking nothing.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

And it sure doesn't feel like winning.

And it shouldn't. Because it isn't. This isn't about "winning or losing" points in an internet thread. Its about a thorough understanding of the realistically potential damage this asshole winning his case presents to the mmo genre. You have no fuckin' clue what I care about personally. So stop trying to "prove" that you do.

[Vatoreus]

Originally Posted by Gryeyes

You really cant be this fucking stupid i just fail to believe it. THEY ARE NOT CHALLENGING HIS RIGHT CREATE BOTS. THEY ARE CHALLENGING HIS RIGHT TO SELL A BOT PROGRAM THEY CLAIM VIOLATES THEIR COPYRIGHT. Most bots are FREE so once again already putting them outside the very narrow criteria blizzard is attempting to use to find this guy liable of copyright infringement. What legal recourse has any mmo ever created had to fight bots? You get fucking banned if caught thats the recourse thats the punishment people seek to avoid. There are hundreds of bot programs a vast majority of them require no purchase. That fact alone demonstrates how fucking stupid you are.

Is any of this sinking in? This lawsuit is focused on the ability of this man to sell his program. And of his supposed breach of copyright thats fucking it. Its not about RMT or somehow making bots "sanctioned". Win or lose this suit will have no impact on a goddamn thing relating to your experience playing it. If wowglider is unable to be sold after this changes fucking nothing. A precedent saying you cant SELL a bot program changes absolutely fucking nothing.

This. A thousand times, this.

[Itzena]

RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE!

Hypothetical -
Judge "Judgement is that Fuckhead McGee must stop distributing his bot, and pay Vivendi X million dollars in damages"
Fuckhead McGee: "Welp. Time to start selling EQ bots instead"
Bot-programmer: "Hah. Doesn't affect me - I give my bot away/use it personally"
Blizzard Attack Lawyers: "Hi, have a C&D"
Bot-programmer: "But I wasn't selling it!"
Lawyers: "Like we care. See you in court. Hope you've got enough money to defend yourself because we've got a retainer that would make God Himself jealous, and something close enough to precedent to work in most courts"

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Gryeyes

A precedent saying you cant SELL a bot program changes absolutely fucking nothing.

VI. Conclusion
As demonstrated herein, MDY’s creation, promotion, and support of Glider
encourages and enables a significant community of cheaters to infringe Blizzard’s copyrights, breach their contracts, and conceal their harmful acts from Blizzard, all to the detriment of rule-abiding players and Blizzard’s premier product and good name. For the reasons stated herein, Blizzard respectfully requests this Court enter summary judgment on Blizzard’s copyright, DMCA and tort claims.
Dated: March 21, 2008 Respectfully submitted,

pasted directly from the .pdf of the motion for summary judgement. Looks pretty obvious to me that Blizzard is seeking legal precedent to halt ALL activities concerning the program. See what you can learn when you actually fuckin' read?

[Arbitrary]

Originally Posted by Rayne

Looks pretty obvious to me that Blizzard is seeking legal precedent to halt ALL activities concerning the program. See what you can learn when you actually fuckin' read?

In the US.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

In the US.

Which is where I live. Your point is? Oh, thats right. You don't have one.

And if you think Blizzard won't seek reparations on behalf of thier European and Asian customers should they succeed in the US, you're only kidding yourself. Whether they win or lose in those venues remains to be seen.

[Arbitrary]

Originally Posted by Rayne

Which is where I live. Your point is? Oh, thats right. You don't have one.

Look here you dumb cunt, it doesn't matter that you live in US because not only are players from all over the world playing on your US Pacific server but the software they'll use to bot can and will still be developed and sold from other countries.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by Rayne

pasted directly from the .pdf of the motion for summary judgement. Looks pretty obvious to me that Blizzard is seeking legal precedent to halt ALL activities concerning the program. See what you can learn when you actually fuckin' read?

No my retarded friend they are seeking a judgment saying wowglider violates their copyright protected material. That is what this entire fucking case hinges on. Its the basis of this dispute. Long as you are not SELLING the fucking thing all of their claims are nullified (or at least the ones with a faint hope of actually being judged in their favor).

So once a fucking again. THE ISSUE IS NOT HIM MAKING THE BOT. ITS HIS ALLEGED COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT AND PROFITING FROM SELLING IT. Stop trying to read things you dont understand it will just confuse you. Even tho the very material you cut/paste supports exacly what i fucking said.

As demonstrated herein, MDY’s creation, promotion, and support of Glider encourages and enables a significant community of cheaters to infringe Blizzard’s copyrights

Thats what is being fought. This mans right to create/support and sell a product vivendi is claiming to be illegal. Not that the act of creating a bot is. But this bot SPECIFICALLY violates copyright in a very SPECIFIC manner. And that this man is making millions from it.

[8ounce]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

Look here you dumb cunt, it doesn't matter that you live in US because not only are players from all over the world playing on your US Pacific server but the software they'll use to bot can and will still be developed and sold from other countries.

By that logic, since some countries dont respect copyright laws, we should just throw them all out the window.


And how can anyone think for a second that the ability to profit from making bot programs wont cause an increase in botting??? Ever hear of capitalism

[Malice]

Originally Posted by Arbitrary

Look here you dumb cunt, it doesn't matter that you live in US because not only are players from all over the world playing on your US Pacific server but the software they'll use to bot can and will still be developed and sold from other countries.

Buddy, there is such a thing as international copyright laws.