[WOW] Glider author lawsuit

[Itzena]

Good luck buying a bot from China.
Hope you didn't want your account anyway.

[Rythonn]

Originally Posted by Rayne

Exaggerate? Are you kidding? If you think for a minute that every numbnut capable of writing bot programs won't take advantage of newly legalised free reign to cash in on whatever mmo they can, you're a fool. Bots will become far more rampant than they are currently in EVERY major mmo, because there won't be any legal recourse for developers. Who's gonna wanna play that shit?

Botting is still not going to be allowed. All because they cant sue the the author doesn't suddenly make it ok to bot. I roll my eyes at your claims of them caring about bots ruining their game. I reported a botter for 2 weeks and nothing ever happened to him so I gave up. They just want a piece of that money.

[Arbitrary]

If Blizzard refuses to market in certain countries that opens up opportunities for other MMOs.

The alrger picture is excaping me.

[SalaciousTunare]

Someone explain to me how using a bot is cheating? The last time I checked all the NPC's in the game were bots. Not to mention, how is this any different than two brothers/friends sharing the same account. Or guildmates who use to grind rank 14 honor?

I call bullshit on this whole thing. The bots are not performing inhuman tasks, they are simply performing human tasks while never sleeping, eating, feeding the kids, or fucking the wife.

You pay per MONTH. I remember in EQ there were people who would go to sleep and leave their character right there on the G-fay platform. SoE didn't suffer "bandwidth" loss from them.

If you make the argument that a bot gives a player an unfair advantage, I make the argument that my 8 button mouse gives me an unfair advantage.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by Rythonn

Botting is still not going to be allowed. All because they cant sue the the author doesn't suddenly make it ok to bot. I roll my eyes at your claims of them caring about bots ruining their game. I reported a botter for 2 weeks and nothing ever happened to him so I gave up. They just want a piece of that money.

Amazing. Its astounding that thousands of previously and continually banned botting accounts eludes you simply because they didn't get around to investigating "your complaint" in a timeframe you deem sufficient. And yeah, its pretty obvious that continued efforts to detect glider are a clear indication that Blizzard doesn't give a shit.

The point you're failing to grasp here, is that if Blizzard gains the ability of legal recourse against the authors of bot programs, the influx of new programs will slow dramatically because it'll be too financially risky for those that make them. Do you really think Blizzard would "authorise" someone to write a program to completely automate the game? Come back to reality man. You're waaaay out there now.

[Rayne]

Originally Posted by SalaciousTunare

If you make the argument that a bot gives a player an unfair advantage, I make the argument that my 8 button mouse gives me an unfair advantage.

You have no argument. Because the difference is, YOU have to click those 8 buttons. YOU have to be at the keyboard to press them. YOU have to control the actions of the avatar.

Bots don't need YOU.

[Nanaki Ikanan]

Originally Posted by SalaciousTunare

If you make the argument that a bot gives a player an unfair advantage, I make the argument that my 8 button mouse gives me an unfair advantage.

I don't think anyone would argue that a bot gives someone an unfair advantage. In fact, most people that have botted characters also suck complete ass at the game, because they've never played it before. The only advantage a bot gives you is a REAL LIFE advantage, in that you can actually do stuff in real life instead of grinding.

And if you really need an explanation as to WHY a bot is cheating, well, one, you're probably a botter, and two, you're probably fucking retarded.

[8ounce]

I wont pretend I know much about copyright laws, cause I dont. I do know if commen sense was admissable in court glider would be outa business in a second.
The simple fact that I 'may' have to one day install a security program that monitors my computer and prevents me from cheating before being able to launch my game (hello securom) is enough for me to wish this guy loses everything he made plus.

[Wilfan]

Originally Posted by SalaciousTunare

Someone explain to me how using a bot is cheating?

Because Blizzard says so. Doesn't matter if you don't feel that way, as when you log on you're not the one in charge.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by Rayne

Why should Blizzard give a shit about farmers legitemately playing the game? Players farming is NOT the same as botters farming. And you're still not grasping the concept here man. If Blizzard can put an end to MDY, they'll have laid the foundation to go after the goldsellers. If MDY has thier way, it'll pave the way for all those "playing farmers" you're talking about to go right ahead and use shit like glider. Except guess what? The companies they're working for will no longer need them. They'll only need the program.

Yeah. The future of the mmo industry looks so much brighter every time you open your mouth doesn't it? Again, wake the fuck up.

A What relation would vivendi getting this closed down on grounds his software violates their copyright have anything to fucking do with the distributors? Blizzard HAS taken such places to court. Not for boting/farmer or selling gold and accounts. But for spamming their game. Trying to connect the grounds of this lawsuit with selling gold is fucking moronic. MDY IS having their way. They are still allowed to sell their product. And bots have existed just a tad bit before WoW existed. So that kinda nullifies your apocalyptic moaning.

[Gryeyes]

Originally Posted by SalaciousTunare

Someone explain to me how using a bot is cheating? The last time I checked all the NPC's in the game were bots. Not to mention, how is this any different than two brothers/friends sharing the same account. Or guildmates who use to grind rank 14 honor?

I call bullshit on this whole thing. The bots are not performing inhuman tasks, they are simply performing human tasks while never sleeping, eating, feeding the kids, or fucking the wife.

You pay per MONTH. I remember in EQ there were people who would go to sleep and leave their character right there on the G-fay platform. SoE didn't suffer "bandwidth" loss from them.

If you make the argument that a bot gives a player an unfair advantage, I make the argument that my 8 button mouse gives me an unfair advantage.

Because its a game with rules and one of the rules is no boting.

[Wilfan]

Originally Posted by 8ounce

The simple fact that I 'may' have to one day install a security program that monitors my computer and prevents me from cheating before being able to launch my game (hello securom) is enough for me to wish this guy loses everything he made plus.

I hope you never start playing FPSes seriously.

[8ounce]

Originally Posted by SalaciousTunare

Someone explain to me how using a bot is cheating? The last time I checked all the NPC's in the game were bots. Not to mention, how is this any different than two brothers/friends sharing the same account. Or guildmates who use to grind rank 14 honor?

I call bullshit on this whole thing. The bots are not performing inhuman tasks, they are simply performing human tasks while never sleeping, eating, feeding the kids, or fucking the wife.

You pay per MONTH. I remember in EQ there were people who would go to sleep and leave their character right there on the G-fay platform. SoE didn't suffer "bandwidth" loss from them.

If you make the argument that a bot gives a player an unfair advantage, I make the argument that my 8 button mouse gives me an unfair advantage.

Its up to the game company to decide whats considered cheating or not.
And dont forget currently, no human is capable of beating some of the better chess programs out there... what chance do you think you would have against a bot with instant reaction time that never makes a mistake.

[SalaciousTunare]

Originally Posted by Nanaki Ikanan

And if you really need an explanation as to WHY a bot is cheating, well, one, you're probably a botter, and two, you're probably fucking retarded.

Botting menial tasks like alterac valley honor, or gold coin in Tyr's Hand, hardly means you suck at the game. It simply means you'd rather be getting laid than farm dreamfoil. And yes, on my fourth 70 I did afkbot honor in AV.

Maybe you're a masochist and you enjoyed camping Stormfeather while skipping meals and sleep.

Again, this isn't a game genie or game shark. Botting isn't the same as duping or hacking. This is NO different than the automation of the bazaar in EQ or the Auction House in Wow. How are those unfair, o they aren't because the developers said they aren't.

We're not talking about an entire guild 100% automated being the first to down Illidan (or whatever is important now in WoW) we're talking about scrubbing toilets and taking out the garbage.

If bots could down Illidan, or get rank 1 in the Arena, they would have by now. This is something I seriously doubt will happen anytime soon given our current AI limitations.

[Twobit Whore]

Originally Posted by SalaciousTunare

Botting menial tasks like alterac valley honor, or gold coin in Tyr's Hand, hardly means you suck at the game. It simply means you'd rather be getting laid than farm dreamfoil.

Well here is the decision you have to make: pussy or pixels. You don't get both.