WoW Going EQ in terms of loot

[Northerner]

Fuck that. Farming VT at the time was a loot shower. Farming it later for only Aten was pain but with mages set up even that was not really that damned bad.

The keying process (and god forbid rekeying) was pain in a time period where yeah, you could indeed be using your time in other ways.

[Miele]

I don't get it, really. What's wrong with loot progression? In EQ it was the same thing, even the epics got replaced at one point. Longevity of loot? Who cares really? I play as casual as it's possible to be and I see a progression in my dps output, stuff that was difficult one month ago it's now easy, same shit for all MMOs that I played so far, EQ was not different.

There is no way to compare EQ1 to WoW or even EQ2 in terms of interactivity, in fact in WoW and EQ2 player performance matters a lot more. Damn, EQ1 rogues, monks, rangers and warriors relied exclusively on gear and eventually positioning for their damage output, they had at best 1 ability to click, 2 if they were lucky. Let's not even get to dual wield tanking, heh.

Detrimental effects were seldom if ever dispelled, everything was just healed through, usually by a backup healer that had fuck all to do but 1 debuff every 3 minutes (hi2u shamans!). Who the fuck cares if you can still use your precious JBB for your shaman (as long as you aren't Iksar, haha!) at level 65, 70 or what is the cap now? You want the goblin skull earring to have a junk buff that will be dispelled? PoM flowers that litter your bags? Even the clicky res was bagged and pulled out when necessary at one point.

You play these games for reasons that belong to you and to you alone, which (oh shit!) may not be the same reasons other people play them. If you want to wave your epeen around, you gear up to be the best, you don't cyber that blood elf chick in Shattrah.
In EQ you had not only to gear up, but also to grind a fuckton of AA to "catch up" and be at least passable as applicant for a raiding guild, in WoW you can do it all solo, via PuGing, getting welfare epics, badge loot and so on. Of course applying now, 14-15 months after TBC has been out to a top raiding guild may not be the easiest thing to do, yet this same guild could decide to gear you up to almost full T6 in 2-3 runs if they really want you so badly, in EQ they could, but they could not give you 400 AA for free by letting you loot them.

[Suineg]

You guys are stupid. The majority of you are idiots. I already mentioned this before.

You bitch about loot and gameplay when you couldn't even code yourself a tool to pop up pretty colors all over your screen to watch while high. Now take into thought things like latency, hardware interaction, z-axis, any kind of aiming. This won't work with 25 people. You won't find a game that uses 'skill' but has loot at the same time. The ONLY things they could add to it are +dmg and +health that's all. No atk power because that would be your own skill on how fast you could aim and how fast you could click. Latency becomes an issue so now you have cones of fire etc a la Planetside and you would bitch about that.

The loot is fine. There was a time period where it was not fine. Right now there are some good options but everything properly progresses. Maybe since I am a Priest I don't have stupid loot but I doubt that a healer is the best optimized. I have sets and items like PMC that have no stamina but have other special bonuses. I have to make sure I wear the right set for the right fight. This is exactly how diverse the loot should be.

Stop wasting your time bitching about something trivial like loot when they have such glaring issues. Fortitude still not showing the proper amount of stamina on a buff bar? But it does on my own tooltip? Retarded. And you idiots want to add in more 'books' and ranks of spells that only drop and will most likely be rare?

Welcome to "LF Priest with Fortitude 15, PWS 18, Renew 13, and Group Renew 7 but will waive Group Renew 7 if you have 13k mana and Prayer of Healing 13.........."

[Zerai]

I started to write something in response to these idiots but then I stopped...asked myself what the fuck am I doing and deleted the post.

Just stop bringing up vanilla -> TBC OMG I REPLACED PURPS WITH GREENS AT 62!?! Because at that point, you show your extreme idiocy and any other point, valid or not, is completely discounted.

[James]

Really, it's not the first game to do something like that, either. For instance, in Super Mario 3 when you go from world 3 to 4 you start replacing your hard earned Leafs with Raccoon Masks, which I think we can all agree are superior on every level. Then towards the end of the game you start picking up obviously OP items like the Hammer Dude masks and such.

[Drtyrm]

James wins. Thread over.

[Zehn - Vhex]

Dude James, a Mario Brothers memorpaguh DONE RIGHT would be awesome! Imagine it! No loot, no levels, no nothing! Just stomping on goomba's for all eternity!

[Kaxmax]

Only if they hire asian artists though.

[Zerai]

Originally Posted by Kaxmax

Only if they hire asian artists though.

Except Mario would be 6'0, lithe, hair bigger than a goomba and the hammer suit's hammer would be bigger than him.

[Kaxmax]

Originally Posted by Zerai

Except Mario would be 6'0, lithe, hair bigger than a goomba and the hammer suit's hammer would be bigger than him.

Perfect. Princess Peach will need eyes & breasts the size of basketballs, yet still somehow manage to look 12.

[LadyVex]

What we're gonna need James to do is post the Super Mario reference in every MMO thread just to end whatever discussion is being had that is blatantly retarded.

Will it work??

[Draegan]

Originally Posted by Zehn - Vhex

Dude James, a Mario Brothers memorpaguh DONE RIGHT would be awesome! Imagine it! No loot, no levels, no nothing! Just stomping on goomba's for all eternity!

Mario has no mana.

[The Walking Gentleman]

Originally Posted by Suineg

Stop wasting your time bitching about something trivial like loot when they have such glaring issues. Fortitude still not showing the proper amount of stamina on a buff bar? But it does on my own tooltip? Retarded.

I always assumed this was so that no one could tell if you'd taken the talent so you wouldn't necessarily get bitched at about it.

Of course, that was before you could just inspect talents. <.<

[Plorkyeran]

Personally I'd be somewhat annoyed if they wasted time rewriting the entire buff tooltip system just so that Fort's tooltip is accurate rather than fixing things that matter.

[Dynalisia]

Between threads like these and their 'The loot upgrades between raiding tiers aren't large enough!' counterparts, this stuff is starting to get rather sad and old.