[VG] The Current State of Vanguard

[Sithro]

Originally Posted by Hatorade

^^^ some great ideas no doubt. If they could maybe get a few more devs to work on VG on a whole I imagine a decent amount of people will come back.

That or take the combat of VG put it into EQ2 and make sweet sweet love to your avatar.

Combat is really that good? I haven't really leveled anything yet, just playing around. I heard that its really good, though.

Whats some of VG's biggest issues right now? Engine seems a bit jerky still.

Wonder if this poor game will ever get an expansion...

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Sithro

Combat is really that good? I haven't really leveled anything yet, just playing around. I heard that its really good, though.

Whats some of VG's biggest issues right now?

Yes combat in VG is fucking near perfect. The pace, the whole offensive, defensive target thing and how different each class is. It really sets them apart in terms of buffs/skills/attacks and all that.


No idea of the issues at the moment not playing. Last I played a few months ago it was performance even on higher end machines(turned down to mediumish was steady though) and lack of end game. Oh and Sharwa rock or whatever is fucking awesome area just was still super fucking buggy. That was actually where I logged out in sadness for the last time. Actually I think that is the problem all this wasted potential but that really is beating a dead horse.

[Spawn]

Originally Posted by Wolfen

I'm only level 15 but my Druid can solo very well. I don't even kite the mob. I root, shoot, and when the root breaks I tank the mob until it dies. That is with half my armor slots empty. (I be a poor mofo)

Found my way to the Blighted Lands right before I logged. There's a large amount of quests there, although most are labelled Small Group. I did notice a few more people in that area, so hopefully I can find a group every now and then.

Wolfen these are some of the exact same things I ran into when I first started again.

Some tips I can give:
* If your on Seradon and want to go through the content with people your level look me up on my bard, we started a new guild about a week ago and its growing rather nicely. Bard name is Aomi (I'm on during the evenings)

* At level 15 hit up the Hunter Quest givers starting in Qa Riverbank (he is right next to the road) This quest line goes to 4 different cities and has 2 quests each. The rewards are great for the level range and the final 3 rewards are all red (chest, legs, and weapon) The weapon had over twice the dps my yellow shortsword I had gotten). These will last you well into your early 30s.
-- By the time I finally finished these I was level 23.

* At 24ish hit up the cloak quest in Coterie Infinium Sancturary (starts with a gnome you turn in the Rift Seeker quest too (the one that gives you the xp pie) That starts a long ass chain that will last till ~27-28

* Then you can start either Shadowhound quest (which is great xp) and later on Wardship faction.

Definitely don't pass up the Hunter quest line starting at 15, its decent xp (the drop rate sucks throughout the whole quest) and gives you a goal to do for multiple levels. For anyone else who's done this quest... f* turtles.

edit for links*

VG Macro's link: Old threat but still good information: Macros

Couple of macros I can't live without:
LOOT
Line 1: /endloot
Line 2: /loot
Line 3: /lootall
Line 4: /targetnextcorpse

Swap instruments / weapons
Line 1: /playsong "blah"
Line 2: /wear "Name of sword" Primaryhand
Line 3: /wear "Name of offhand" Secondaryhand

[Quineloe]

Originally Posted by Spawn

Couple of macros I can't live without:
LOOT
Line 1: /endloot
Line 2: /loot
Line 3: /lootall
Line 4: /targetnextcorpse

Is looting really such a burden?
I really like the POTBS approach where loot just appears in your loot box and you claim it and money gets automatically added. How is V doing it?

[Hatorade]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

Is looting really such a burden?
I really like the POTBS approach where loot just appears in your loot box and you claim it and money gets automatically added. How is V doing it?

Same as EQ piles of bodies click them to loot.

[Spawn]

I can spam that button and it will loot literally everything around in me in like 2 seconds. No need to shift right click / right click / accept / close whatever.

[Aria]

Originally Posted by Quineloe

Is looting really such a burden?
I really like the POTBS approach where loot just appears in your loot box and you claim it and money gets automatically added. How is V doing it?

Seems like you haven't had the excellent experience of killing a few guys on top of eachother. Most games you can tell what mob you're hovering. In Vanguard however it doesn't tell you, and the apparent range of clicking on a corpse is 380 miles, because no matter what you do you can never click on the corpses below unless you're lucky. One of my big gripes right there.. sure it's small, but it's the small annoying things that add up.

Other things hopefully they're changing.. Chunking is retarded. That's all I have to say about it, are they working on it?

Also a lot of stuff just pops up on my screen as I run towards it, like fences, posts, npcs.. if it were a bit smoother it might be more pleasing to the eye.

Otherwise, they did a lot right. I think the combat is perfect minus the "you can't see your target" garbage. Perfect blend of speed of attacks, battle speed, and incredible mechanics. Put it into EQ2 where you have 418 buttons to click per fight and it might fix it.

[Draegan]

Originally Posted by Sithro

Combat is really that good? I haven't really leveled anything yet, just playing around. I heard that its really good, though.

Whats some of VG's biggest issues right now? Engine seems a bit jerky still.

Wonder if this poor game will ever get an expansion...

Combat is fine, nothing to write home about. It isn't innovative or entirely special. It's got a good pace, but It's just like WOW in those regards. It's the technical glitches that make it ass.

[Sithro]

Originally Posted by Aria

Seems like you haven't had the excellent experience of killing a few guys on top of eachother. Most games you can tell what mob you're hovering. In Vanguard however it doesn't tell you, and the apparent range of clicking on a corpse is 380 miles, because no matter what you do you can never click on the corpses below unless you're lucky. One of my big gripes right there.. sure it's small, but it's the small annoying things that add up.

Other things hopefully they're changing.. Chunking is retarded. That's all I have to say about it, are they working on it?

Also a lot of stuff just pops up on my screen as I run towards it, like fences, posts, npcs.. if it were a bit smoother it might be more pleasing to the eye.

Otherwise, they did a lot right. I think the combat is perfect minus the "you can't see your target" garbage. Perfect blend of speed of attacks, battle speed, and incredible mechanics. Put it into EQ2 where you have 418 buttons to click per fight and it might fix it.

Hopefully thats all worked on soon.

That, and the fucking doors. Lags like hell when you open a door.

[Big W Powah!]

Okay. I think this'll answer the question as to which to play; Which'll solo the bigger baddies better? Bear Shaman or DK?

[Vatoreus]

bear

[Aria]

Originally Posted by Sithro

Hopefully thats all worked on soon.

That, and the fucking doors. Lags like hell when you open a door.

Oh.. totally forgot about doors. It doesn't even make sense why the game lags so bad when you open a door.

Also the stairs in the Rao'Jin area near the starting Kojan place.. jesus. When you go to the steps leading to the final guy the game literally takes a dump for about 20 seconds.

[Big W Powah!]

Found Magi hold on my shaman--3 dots galore--its the only way to grind.

[Big W Powah!]

Originally Posted by Vatoreus

bear

Heh, actually, how much better? Cause the DK is too god damned fun. Teleport backstab, 2h tank, big ass orc..its all win.

[Tolstoy]

DK. I was duoing God King with a necro back in October. There's nothing more fun than pulling a train of xp mobs and AE lifetapping the shit out of them.