[VG] The Current State of Vanguard

[jayrebb]

hi

I still had an active account for some reason so I checked it out. Sartok is a wasteland and the community is nonexistent. The failure, not at launch, but around 6 months after that (no new content for almost 1 year, insane) caused irreparable damage to the community.

The PvE servers may be a different story if you are looking to sink some time. But it is still a game on life support, nothing will change that.

[LexarkT11]

your lucky someone doesnt put you on life support jayrebb!

[Traldan]

Cool to see a bunch of people on Xeth. I co-founded Divinus (and one of the two guilds that merged to form it) long ago, but I haven't played since a few months after launch. Maybe I'll have to patch it up and give the game another shot one of these days.

[Blackulaa]

Dear Jayrebb,

Let me introduce you to a show called It's Just A Game.

Remember when you would play $50 for a game and beat it in a month, and because YOU had a good time, not the reviewer, not your buddy, not the store, you felt your money was worth it. Honestly do you really care about the life support of a game you don't like?

Right now, all MMO's are almost the same thing. None is, OMG! buy a new console just for this game amazing, as they all do similar things with different graphics.

So why do you care if a bunch of bored out of their skulls players get some fun for 3,4, maybe more, possible months of fun out of a game while we wait for the next BIG THING (trademark)?

[kcxiv]

Its not just a game for him, its a way of life!

[Duppin]

jayrebb is going to just continue to get every Vanguard-related thread Rickshawed, since there no longer seems to be any will to keep his trash in check.

If you want to discuss Vanguard, I'd recommend finding another set of forums to do so, because you're never going to get to have a useful discussion about it here.

He's branched out into AOC, too!

[jayrebb]

Originally Posted by Blackulaa

So why do you care if a bunch of bored out of their skulls players get some fun for 3,4, maybe more, possible months of fun out of a game while we wait for the next BIG THING (trademark)?

I just had to bring some reality into this thread.

I don't see anything wrong with resubbing after already being ripped off to kill some time, like I said.

Vanguard fans are a cult, the people who discuss it are a cult. This is also something that will never change.

Ill bite and expand a little more. I hadn't checked up on Vanguard personally in over half a year. I logged into Sartok, with my unknowingly subscribed account, only to reminisce about the old community with 1 remaining in-game acquaintance. We discussed the time line of the communities dissolution, and frankly it pissed us off.

We came to the conclusion that Vanguard did not fail at launch, but rather the development team failed to deliver meaningful content in a timely fashion. The initial Vanguard community will never be recaptured, and in an already mediocre game, it spells nothing for Vanguard's future. All we had to do was remember the 100 guilds and factions that quit and will never return. People held out for SO LONG and Sigil/SOE couldn't even shovel up their own shit to serve us. They had NOTHING.

This game is not deserving of any support. The post-launch handling of Vanguard is where the tragedy lies.

The outrageous gross mismanagement of post-launch Vanguard development is all the reasons we need to stay away from it. I still cannot believe all the people who stuck around WAITING for something that was never going to come. It just defies humanity.

So I see this thread, and I see a few of the same cultists spewing McQuaid level garbage about the state of the game. So I figured I would give my refreshed perspective on it.

[Twobit Whore]

He's actually made a single post in this thread from what I can see. Looks like most of the thread is pretty on topic. I guess you can cry foul if you want.. but meh.

Most of us don't care about VG anymore. At this point it's like talking about DDO or Auto Assault or whatever. While obviously the game has improved since launch.. it's still just another mediocre MMO with limited resources and a questionable future. If people want to play it, no one should tell them they can't. Especially at this point now that it's wholly a SOE property and not a McQuaid scam.

I wish they would do a free trial though.. I'd actually play it to see how it runs on my machine instead of watching my friend play.

[Duppin]

All that means is that it took a while for him to find this thread.

I agree with you about Vanguard being mostly irrelevant, but people should still be able to talk about it if they want to.

[kcxiv]

Falle can you please get rid of this dumbass again.

[UnchainedAcolyte]

Considering the amount of moderating Faille did at the beginning of this thread, jayrebb-style posts are not encouraged.

Insisting that this thread reads like the pre-launch threads is ridiculous, especially when jayrebb insists on bringing in some "reality" and that everyone who plays/considers playing Vanguard is a cultist.

jayrebb = troll = removal of his posts from this thread. Thanks.


On topic:

I'd love to go back and play because I personally enjoyed the combat pacing and class design (rogue/disciple here) even though I couldn't solo worth beans on my rogue - I prefered duoing/trioing/grouping anyway. What really keeps me from coming back is the continued lack of lore and lack of depth/continuity in the quest lines.

I'm not going to hold it against anyone who plays though. If you enjoy it, play on.

[sticktastic]

[quote=Twobit Whore;1031974]
Most of us don't care about VG anymore. At this point it's like talking about DDO or Auto Assault or whatever. While obviously the game has improved since launch.. it's still just another mediocre MMO with limited resources and a questionable future. If people want to play it, no one should tell them they can't. Especially at this point now that it's wholly a SOE property and not a McQuaid scam.QUOTE]

Just want to put out here that if by mediocre your talking about number of subs, then every other MMO other than WoW is mediocre. That is the reality of MMO's right now, if your company name isnt Blizzard then your view of the MMO pie/chase is the same, your looking at blizzards ass.

[jayrebb]

Originally Posted by UnchainedAcolyte

Considering the amount of moderating Faille did at the beginning of this thread, jayrebb-style posts are not encouraged.

Insisting that this thread reads like the pre-launch threads is ridiculous, especially when jayrebb insists on bringing in some "reality" and that everyone who plays/considers playing Vanguard is a cultist.

jayrebb = troll = removal of his posts from this thread. Thanks.

Oh how unsurprised I am that one of the usual suspects could not comprehend the meaning of my post. Ill bite again though.

For the tard crew that needs cliffnotes:

If you played at launch, and are just returning, you will not be pleased with the current state of the community.

If you just bought Vanguard (or waited 4-5 months after launch to purchase), you will not be the wiser, and may be able to enjoy a few solid months of the game.


I speak from the highest platform. I have seen it all, from beta, to launch, to mid-game life where people began to quit, to the end result of 10+ power guilds packing up and leaving.

No longer is anyone concerned with the launch of Vanguard, it is the post-launch that was grossly mismanaged. As I said, they couldn't shovel any shit together 6 months deep into gold status? Is this a game worthy of support? People toughed it out through some impossible bugs, were bored to tears, and...words can't describe what happened here.

These are the current gripes of the old guard of Vanguard.

[UnchainedAcolyte]

Originally Posted by sticktastic

That is the reality of MMO's right now, if your company name isnt Blizzard then your view of the MMO pie/chase is the same, your looking at blizzards ass.

And you're wanting a piece of it.

The MMO business of course, not Blizzard's ass.


No one is contending that Vanguard is doing wonderfully. What people are interested in is how the game is progressing.

Just curious, how are server populations, and is anyone here doing PUGs as well as premade groups on the servers?


And jay, please define "usual suspects"? I'm not a fanboi, nor do I play.

Highest platform? Of being full of shit and catassery, perhaps.

[sticktastic]

Originally Posted by UnchainedAcolyte

And you're wanting a piece of it.

The MMO business of course, not Blizzard's ass.


No one is contending that Vanguard is doing wonderfully. What people are interested in is how the game is progressing.

Just curious, how are server populations, and is anyone here doing PUGs as well as premade groups on the servers?


And jay, please define "usual suspects"? I'm not a fanboi, nor do I play.

Highest platform? Of being full of shit and catassery, perhaps.

What I was trying to say was, Im not sure why Jayrebb or anyone else cares to try and continue to post negative shit about a game he does not like, ok you dont like it, we get it thanks for the info cya later?

For the record I to had played at launch and left for awhile, I do pugs when people arent on that I usually group with and it goes just fine 95% of the time. However, I may just be getting lucky every single time I play.